The Fall of Roe v Wade: US Politics, June 2022

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i'm sorry, but i refused to believe "LifeSiteNews website" is real. again, despite evidence to the contrary, i cannot live in a world where someone thinks "i am going to read LifeSiteNews now!"

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 16:27 (one year ago) link

hmmm, THIS looks like a good source of information! it's got life, site, AND news!

*immediately walks into telephone pole*

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 16:28 (one year ago) link

top lifesitenews story right now:

(LifeSiteNews) — Five Tampa Bay Rays pitchers declined to wear rainbow-themed insignias on their hats and jerseys during the team’s “Pride Night” celebration on Saturday, citing their Christian faith.

The five pitchers — Jason Adam, Jalen Beeks, Brooks Raley, Jeffrey Springs, and Ryan Thompson — took a stand against the pressure being exerted within all major league sports to “celebrate” and “welcome” sodomy and gender confusion during the month of June.  

i have to say, this is actually useful news, fuck those guys

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 16:29 (one year ago) link

"Sodomy & Gender Confusion" sounds like an outtake from Billion Dollar Babies

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 7 June 2022 16:50 (one year ago) link

Of course they're all "pitchers."

Eggs Benedick (Eric H.), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 17:17 (one year ago) link

of course they're all "bitches"

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 17:34 (one year ago) link

97% of white guys who play pro sports are just the biggest fucking doofuses

OG Bob Sacamano (will), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 17:44 (one year ago) link

um, I’m not trying to be a total dick, but most guys who play professional sports are incredible doofuses.

broccoli rabe thomas (the table is the table), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 17:55 (one year ago) link

i'm always curious how these bozos like Milo and Baked Alaska survive. how are they paying their bills? I see Milo has a job now but are they basically funded by donations from horrible people?

akm, Tuesday, 7 June 2022 18:55 (one year ago) link

Rewrite as statement.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 19:00 (one year ago) link

Most of them started out as do-nothings with parents that paid their bills.

Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 19:04 (one year ago) link

xp i have no evidence for this and i'm not going to look for it but i have a hunch that many of these proud boy types have support from mom and dad. you don't bootstrap yourself into being an incompetent hatemonger. i'm willing to bet that being already bootstrapped by mom and dad is part of the reason one becomes an incompetent hatemonger in the first place.

the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 19:06 (one year ago) link

Milo was hawking Virgin Mother statues fairly recently:

https://s31242.pcdn.co/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/milo-yiannopolous-1536x923.jpg

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 7 June 2022 19:06 (one year ago) link

“There are some Marys where the face is unfortunate, they haven’t put in the work to make sure that she’s got just the right expression and features,” he says in a clip.

“This on the other hand, you can see at home it’s just, it’s just beautiful.”

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 7 June 2022 19:07 (one year ago) link

He looks like Johnny Depp playing Milo.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 19:10 (one year ago) link

Ped Wood

I thought Baked had rich parents, Milo's basically spent half his life begging for money

frogbs, Tuesday, 7 June 2022 19:13 (one year ago) link

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/07/us/politics/jan-6-hearings-tv-democrats.html

Jan. 6 Hearings Give Democrats a Chance to Recast Midterm Message
With their majority at stake, Democrats plan to use the six high-profile hearings to refocus voters’ attention on Republicans’ role in the attack.

I'm sure this will be highly effective!

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 23:35 (one year ago) link

Ehh, it might sway some 'undecided independents, whoever they are

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 7 June 2022 23:38 (one year ago) link

NYT being NYT.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 23:38 (one year ago) link

Milo is essentially all the desperation of the producers in The Producers made glossy flesh.

politics is about vibes and the vibes are off (stevie), Wednesday, 8 June 2022 12:43 (one year ago) link

Got to congratulate the Bubbas, their war on higher education is close to being won in KY. Let us see, the Bubbas first got rooked by a bunch of Wall Street slickers basically blowing state pension funds. They then separated off the cops' union from the teachers, as you cannot go after the cops. They then basically blamed the teachers for their pension funding mess and pretty much forced cuts on people that don't really get paid that f'n much in the first place, especially in the back hollers of KY. They pretty much then tried to arrest them or fire them for complaining. Then you have COVID and the Bubba law makers pretty much similulatanously blamed the teachers for not wanting to get back into the schools and then turns around and stated they were brainwashing children with CRT.

https://www.weku.org/education/2022-06-07/nearly-three-quarters-of-ky-teachers-are-at-risk-of-leaving-the-profession-top-ed-official-says

F'n dumba$$ Bubbas each and every one, maybe they should make take some campaign pictures with some assault rifles, that will impress them.

The Artist formerly known as Earlnash, Wednesday, 8 June 2022 23:28 (one year ago) link

Some committee members have hinted they will aim to prove Trump’s culpability for Jan. 6 in a couple of respects: that he incited the attack on the Capitol, and that he broke federal law by trying to stop lawmakers from certifying Joe Biden’s win. It is a crime to obstruct an official proceeding of Congress.

They’ve interviewed former aides and administration officials — including the No. 1 and No. 2 officials at the Justice Department at the time, Jeffrey Rosen and Richard Donoghue — who testified that they told Trump, in no uncertain terms, that he lost the 2020 election.

But to build the case that he committed a crime, the committee would need to demonstrate that Trump and his allies specifically planned to disrupt the congressional counting of electoral votes.


bloodcurdling scream

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Thursday, 9 June 2022 13:52 (one year ago) link

Anyone watch Chris Haye's two-hour special last night? Rather good and crisp.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 9 June 2022 14:02 (one year ago) link

*Hayes'

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 9 June 2022 14:02 (one year ago) link

I did not. Did anyone make the point about it being so long after the initial events happened that it no longer matters?

The original shock of watching that day unfold, knowing where it was going, has been replaced with.....????

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Thursday, 9 June 2022 14:20 (one year ago) link

idk even as someone who has followed the adjudication since the beginning it clarified.

How fast would you have wanted it to go given the number of witnesses?

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 9 June 2022 14:25 (one year ago) link

The government should have re-launched America's Most Wanted and done a nightly profile of each insurrectionist. That might have held people's interest. Everyone loves the chance to rat out their neighbor.

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 9 June 2022 14:42 (one year ago) link

Ooh, juicy.

BREAKING: The FBI has arrested Republican candidate for governor Ryan Kelley at his home and taken him into custody.

— David Eggert (@DavidEggert00) June 9, 2022

Eggs Benedick (Eric H.), Thursday, 9 June 2022 14:46 (one year ago) link

idk even as someone who has followed the adjudication since the beginning it clarified.

How fast would you have wanted it to go given the number of witnesses?

double the pace! half the rations!

once the investigation took the form that it took, it was always going to take a year and a half, with the big finale set for the months leading up to the midterms. and maybe i'm just being supremely naive, because maybe that's the only form it could have taken. it's certainly the one that works out the best for elected officials, because it works out for everyone except for the people and future of the country they represent.

on the republicans side, they get to get away with it. everything. they might lose a couple fringe staffers (? probably not?), but compare it to the day of and the day after january 6, when they were running scared. they were calling trump and yelling at him, freaking out, probably about their own wellbeing, life if they might go to prison for what they did. within a couple days, though, everything had changed. within a month you were a complete bozo to republicans if you saw january 6 in any way that resembled what actually happened. and now, if the jan 6 hearings happens to call out one of them in particular, they will be a national hero.

on the democrats side, they get to show that they investigated and were very thorough and deliver a real knock out blow (/sarcasm) to groups like the proud boys. nothing of consequence will happen, which is what everyone expects at this point. they've lowered the standards for themselves so far that if anything of any consequence happens, it will be a fucking miracle and i'll be typing stuff like "well i didn't expect that! wow!". but the expectation is that nothing will happen. still, democrats can take all of this great political ammunition to the mid-terms and...get their ass kicked because they're feeble cowards, just as their reputation has been my entire life.

Was there another way? is there any other possible way that "justice" could be delivered? beats the fuck out of me. i think it would have been cool to do something during those first terrible hours and days and weeks after the incident, when the memory still had a certain form for many people. at this point, that national memory is formless for so many reasons. maybe doing something in the short term, before our memories became twisted and decayed, would have required focusing on one group or another rather than _everyone_, or just focusing on elected officials and their staff, or maybe just a handful of the most obvious offenders.

who knows. maybe this is a symptom of the slide into authoritarianism and fascism - one can no longer see the alternatives to the thing that is clearly wrong and ineffective

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Thursday, 9 June 2022 14:48 (one year ago) link

"idk even as someone who has followed the adjudication since the beginning it clarified."

been a lot of narrative building over friendly channels the past two weeks, it's quite apparent. preaching to the choir. clarifying, i agree, but the bully pulpit is fucking useless so far. imo. xp

Warning: Choking Hazard (Hunt3r), Thursday, 9 June 2022 14:52 (one year ago) link

actually, here's another way to look at it.

if, in bizarro world, january 6 was led by left-wing groups, and was an effort to reverse the results of the recent presidential election so that the democratic candidate who blatantly, clearly, lost got to keep on being president....

what would the investigation look like then? basically, just switch everything around so republicans hold the levers of government, and it's clearly "antifa" or whatever trying to steal the election?

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Thursday, 9 June 2022 15:04 (one year ago) link

i do that in my head a bit. and contrast to benghazi. i was just before this post trying to find out the obedience to subpeonas in benghazi, didn't find.

Warning: Choking Hazard (Hunt3r), Thursday, 9 June 2022 15:06 (one year ago) link

you don't even have to imagine, the conclusion of the J6 committee is gonna be "antifa did it"

frogbs, Thursday, 9 June 2022 15:11 (one year ago) link

Before he was obediently helping ex-President Donald Trump stonewall the House Jan. 6 Committee’s investigation into the Capitol insurrection, House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) was privately stressing the need for an investigation in the days after the attack.

On Thursday night, New York Times reporters Jonathan Martin and Alex Burns released new audio of one of McCarthy’s calls with fellow Republicans on Jan. 11 last year, during which the GOP leader declared that it was essential to get to the bottom of the insurrection.

“We cannot just sweep this under the rug. We need to know why it happened, who did it, and people need to be held accountable for it,” he said. “And I’m committed to making sure that happens.”

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Thursday, 9 June 2022 15:32 (one year ago) link

Every single day that they've spent on this, all the usual high profile assholes have been out and about, fearlessly, freely, openly and explicitly laying the groundwork and advocating for a more successful repeat. From the local state level to prominent national politicians. The DOJ, by not enforcing subpoenas against Meadows and Scavino, has shown that it will likely not do anything serious with anyone else high up on the food chain, either, give or take a Proud Boy or Oath Keeper. The committee will very proudly lay out its meticulous work and proof, Trump Inc. will continue to clog the justice toilet for years, voters will either forget about it or further entrench, and the march toward the end of democracy will continue unabated.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 9 June 2022 15:47 (one year ago) link

Given the outlet, this history is not terrible https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/06/supreme-court-power-overrule-congress/661212/

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Thursday, 9 June 2022 15:47 (one year ago) link

I heard Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein on the PBS News Hour yesterday, promoting a new edition of All the President's Men with a new forward about the parallels with Trump.

When asked who was worse, they were both unequivocal: Trump. Nixon's crimes were political, but not seditious - and he resigned when nearly all the Republicans turned against him, while Trump is floating the idea of another run, which is likely supported by the GOP lackeys

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 9 June 2022 16:45 (one year ago) link

I feel like Republicans turned against Nixon because the news reporting would be too damning for them. Now, with Fox, Newsmax, OANN etc. they've created their own alternate reality where Trump (and the party) have done no wrong. Also Trump is their charismatic leader now, and all the DeSantises and Cruzes trying to suck up to that power don't really have "it" as far as I can see, so the lackeys will support him until enough of the country has turned against him.

Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 9 June 2022 17:56 (one year ago) link

Yes. Also their own voters. This would change after 1980.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 9 June 2022 18:01 (one year ago) link

I've said a million times, all the "moderate" once-Republicans are now Democrats.

Antifa Sandwich Artist (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 9 June 2022 19:49 (one year ago) link

Nah, they're either dead (because they were born in 1907) or fascists now. Moderate Republicans didn't move to the Democrats, they just stopped being moderate.

papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 9 June 2022 20:06 (one year ago) link

We all have our good former Republicans.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 9 June 2022 20:10 (one year ago) link

Yeah, but Romney & Murkowski have some misgivings and decidely mixed feelings about the fascism

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 9 June 2022 20:11 (one year ago) link

even Goldwater's rep has been rehabilitated through the prism of today's GOP shitshow

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 9 June 2022 20:12 (one year ago) link

He was the first rehab case I remember because he wasn't quite as insane as the rest of the party but only about gay people serving in the military.

papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 9 June 2022 20:15 (one year ago) link

Also looked genuinely pissed off about Nixon's felonies and didn't retreat into "Well, we won't let Democrat senators do THAT to us again."

He's still heinous.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 9 June 2022 20:20 (one year ago) link

idk I think there are a lot of people who were yuppie Reagan/ Bush I voters in the 80s living in blue metros/ states with no ties to the religious right, find MAGA “tacky” and vote Democratic now. which sort of seems like the primary project of Democratic Party since Carter: ie replace union voters with lettered suburbanites convinced that low or no corporate taxes, financial deregulation, and big military budgets are The Way

OG Bob Sacamano (will), Thursday, 9 June 2022 20:21 (one year ago) link

eg my 50 something NoVa cousin who was basically Alex P Keaton in the 80s

OG Bob Sacamano (will), Thursday, 9 June 2022 20:22 (one year ago) link

My best friend's in-laws! The dad was a bottom-feeding Cuban conservative radio personality, just awful, whose brain was broken by Dubya. Hated the Iraq War. Voted for Obama twice, Clinton, Biden. He ain't going back.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 9 June 2022 20:22 (one year ago) link


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