Maintaining a Digital Music Collection

Weird, Jaime Brooks published this today, which I'm looking forward to reading, feels relevant

https://thenewinquiry.com/blog/the-future-of-streaming-services-may-be-in-the-past/

Well, it included the scenes where Cinderella's stepsisters cut off pieces of their feet to make the glass slipper fit, and it had the anti-Semitic stories.

― but also fuck you (unperson),

blimey !
going to have to check re my version.

anyways, back to NAS drive chaos ..

is this why it was glass? ayeeee

A number of xposts to Brad C -- there's something else going on there; all of my iTunes playlists transferred over to the Music app with no problem, and that was well before I subscribed to Apple Music. And as noted above I've been wary about syncing my local library with Apple Music so still haven't flipped that switch.

I have a 1TB hard drive in a drawer, that represents the long long hours I spent in the 00s and 10s, buying, receiving (for reviewing purposes) and nicking stuff, then tagging, curating into playlists, sharing etc - and I access it maybe twice a year to find something? In truth, I've not found a way to successfully manage the transition to a 'one library' digital space - the infinity of that hard drive and the work it takes keep it accessible and navigable is too much; the possibilities are simply too broad and wide, and I need the anchor of physical media to help deal with the tyranny of choice.

This probably says more about my daft brain than anything else but the move to digital is indicative of something, at least: how attics and basements have shrunk or morphed into digital space, and how much easier it'll be for the next generation to simply smash extant hard drives with a hammer and be done with it.

A Frightened Rabbit lyric comes to mind: "Well, here's the evidence of human existence/A splitting binbag next to two damp boxes/And I cannot find a name for them/They hardly show that I have lived" - swap out binbag and boxes for some form of obsolete tech and there it is.

otm

is there really nothing that'll just let you dump files onto a hard disk and let you play them through a stereo?

my pi Jukebox does the job, uses phone as a remote / display, but it's very ghetto

xp thanks early rejector

it seems to me my playlists came through the initial iTunes-to-Music switch just fine, so I wonder if their recent disappearance is due to a macOS upgrade (I'm running 12.4 now)

xp I've use a relatively inexpensive (<$200) DAC for several years and it's a fanatic low-tech solution. USB from your computer to the DAC, which converts the digital signal to analog and sends it to your stereo receiver using RCA connectors. No, it doesn't play everywhere in the house but neither did the stereo.

is there really nothing that'll just let you dump files onto a hard disk and let you play them through a stereo?

this is exactly what Sonos Connect, now Port, is all about.

a NAS and a receiver that support DLNA i guess would be the simplest non-brand-ecosystem way

other than an old computer connected to a receiver aux

Years ago I put my music collection on my server (which also presents as a NAS on the network). I have Plex for movies and Airsonic for music running on the server. Last year I bought a HiFiBerry and hooked it up to my receiver. To listen to music I connect my phone to the HiFiBerry and stream either from whichever app I need to. For one person used to listening on the phone, this is pretty elegant and simple. The backend is a little complicated, but I could definitely see it being set up in an easier way with, like, a Synology NAS or something.

The frustrating thing is nobody in my house knows the system, so any time anybody wants to hear something on the stereo, they come get me. I see this is a flaw in _my setup_ - it's not on them. I've been trying to think of a way to make it more simple. Maybe I just attach a low-end iPad to the wall near the stereo and just have the Substreamer app open on it all the time. Or get a record player and be done with it.

hifiberry........ can you add buttons to this rig, to the Pi's GPIO?

i have an even less powerful little ESP32 based "Squeezeamp" that I've hooked buttons (pause/play, next/prev, couple radio station presets) and a rotary encoder (volume) up to. Logitech Media Server stuff. I realize it sounds a bit much. But any active branded systems drive me up a wall. The thing with the "Logitech" is that they've pretty much abandoned it and it's open source and community maintained and is kind of a beautiful thing. Shame about the name!

What's the best way to store a bunch of digital music files in the cloud in a manner that's easy to stream from?
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1GxOds0DpFDKtiQWFSqteioB1Co8z1-jm

I'd like to be able to put all this somewhere where I can stream it to my phone and play it in my car so that the albums will actually play as albums.

Roon 2.0 now offers this feature.

Rent a VPS with lots of storage, run a music server on it like Plex, Navidrome, Jellyfin, etc.

The 2TB Lacie hard drive I bought in 2017 only has about 75GB of space left, so I just bought a 4TB and will begin slowly backing up my collection over the fall and winter.

You listen to all 2 TB of that music you already have to the point that you need more storage?

Yup.

Not hard for me to believe at all.

A lot of my collection — at least half, maybe more — is promos I'm sent. I only keep the ones I listen to and like enough to consider writing about, and it still adds up to at least an album or two a day. That's before the stuff I buy or download from elsewhere, which adds up to somewhere around 5-15 albums more each month.

Honestly I keep all my promos. Then again keep in mind I've got a 24 TB drive (itself backed up). I never regret the investment.

You probably don't get as many black metal albums or self-released smooth jazz projects as I do.

More of the former than you might guess but as for the latter, I concede the field.

smooth jazz self releasing is my favorite medicine album

I'm closing in on 5TB now, will probably need to bump up a size in the next couple tears

wait until you decide to store your blu-ray collection on a plex server

thankfully I only own like four blu-ray discs, and have no idea how to rip them, so those will stay in the physical realm

F Hazel - any tips for that? I only have a few blu rays but I’d like to be able to stream them on Plex

Plex actually is pretty simple to use! Some learning curve with folder and file naming conventions but the harder part was learning to rip Blu-Rays (I use MakeMKV). I leave the raw rips since video compression is too complicated to mess with for me. My collection is medium-sized... around 500 discs.

Plex app is on Roku so watching stuff from my collection is a pleasure. It handles metadata really well, all I fiddle with is the movie poster choices.

Raw rips! Handbrake isn't that tough to sort out, there's probably a preset you'd like and would save scads of space. Mind that I care about picture quality even less than audio (320kbps 4 life)

Plex got annoying and I ditched it for Jellyfin which was surprisingly easy. Sorry to any ilxors who ever used my Plex.

I need to try Jellyfin, Plex was good enough when I set up the media server so I haven't played around too much yet with Emby or the like... staying with raw Blu-ray rips because I don't want to repeat the rip to mp3 fiasco where I ended up moving to FLAC and had to re-rip a lot of CDs. Go lossless stay lossless and wait for storage sizes to catch up.

how do folks back their stuff up? Cloud services or an offsite duplicated HD?

o wait do apps like Plex etc handle that part?

i have an local external drive attached to my WD MyCloud.
there is a scheduled job that backs up MyCloud to the external every Monday evening.
not the greatest failsafe solution, and something i will revise once my finances improve.

xp They don't. It's really just spinning up a homemade Netflix based on your files.

I was using a USB hard drive to do periodic backups til recently. Had no incidents but recently switched to a 2-disk Synology NAS... one that can run Docker and handle my bit of server stuff too (Jellyfin, Logitech Media Server). So I don't have to keep an old laptop on all the time now to do that stuff. So it's smoother than what I was doing.

Anyone on Qnap NAS?

oh so now I still use the USB disk to periodically back up the Synology and store that somewhere else. It's easy, but now I'm attached to their ecosystem in that way.

€10 a month for 2TB Google Drive space works for me.

I've just remembered that I'm a PlexPass subscriber but I can't remember why.

The privelege of downloading your own files? "Plexamp"?

Right when I got into Jellyfin some guy put out a really good music app that can use it or Plex: "Symfonium".

Plexamp sucks. I don't need download ability. Maybe I should cancel.

sounds like!

Prism is a pretty good alternative music player for Plex, well worth the small price.

I'm using Serviio. Pretty easy to set up with my Yamaha MusicCast reciever, or VLC on my phone. You can pay for remote access but otherwise it's free.

I hated Plex, it was too buggy for me.

as a few of you on here know, i'm on 32tb of plex data these days

seems like every searchable, free, file-hosting service has now been shut down (RIP ulozto.net). Whither the days of yore when you could stumble across a blog hosting .zip files of MP3s of the entire discography of Waylon Jennings.

https://ih1.redbubble.net/image.3498229769.9885/flat,750x,075,f-pad,750x1000,f8f8f8.jpg

zshare, mega, mediafire?

(I agree that large-scale MP3/sharity blogs are largely a thing of the past)