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I think the reason why most ILHers have picked the Celtics is that in a seven game series the best team, or at least the best team in aggregate after injuries are taken into account, will win about 80% of the time. The need to win four reduces variance quite a bit. The margin between teams needs to be extremely thin to make a seven game series a total toss up. Going in, the C's look a bit stronger in their match-ups, but it should be a closely contested series, either 6 or 7 games. And hella fun!

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 31 May 2022 02:53 (one year ago) link

well in general if you like the road team you should pick them in 6 but this particular celtics team seems to operate differently

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 31 May 2022 03:17 (one year ago) link

celtics have tried more threes in the 2022 playoffs than GS have :o

a lot of that probably has to do with playing the bucks but still

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 31 May 2022 10:32 (one year ago) link

538 likes the celtics prob cause they were by the numbers pretty clearly the best team for the second half of the regular season, the regular season can be deceiving in basketball tho, most close nba watchers had them as a contender in a crowded field of contenders which turned out to be more accurate than 538 seeing them as dominant, likewise 538 has them as big faves to win this series where its prob pretty much a toss up, tho i guess you do have to give 538 credit despite being a bizarre site by and for deranged weirdos for liking the celtics more than the average casual fan who didnt really see them as contenders at all

lag∞n, Tuesday, 31 May 2022 10:37 (one year ago) link

I would also say, Clemenza, relative to a sport like baseball, how teams match up against each other is a much, much bigger factor in basketball. Ergo much harder to use the data of previous performance against other teams to make those kinds of predictions. That said, the Celtics have famously played the Warriors well for the past several years. I believe I saw a tweet that they are the only team in the NBA with a winning record against them over the past 8 years or something(?!). On the other hand, they have of course never met in the playoffs and - again, different from other sports - the playoffs really are a whole different game. In a regular season matchup the Warriors aren't going to switch up their whole style of play from game to game, but in the playoffs you can (try to) mold your whole thing to take advantage of your opponent, as they do the same to you. That's why hoops are the best baby

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Tuesday, 31 May 2022 13:58 (one year ago) link

yeah in the warriors famous 73-9 season the celtics had a win and an overtime loss vs them (with a different (much worse) team than the current one mind you)

their prioritization of perimeter defense has kept it a good matchup through roster turnover i guess

ciderpress, Tuesday, 31 May 2022 14:07 (one year ago) link

it kind of a classic matchup in the san francisco is the boston of the west coast

lag∞n, Tuesday, 31 May 2022 14:32 (one year ago) link

are you sure it isnt seattle

ciderpress, Tuesday, 31 May 2022 14:40 (one year ago) link

seattle is just idk what you even do with seattle

lag∞n, Tuesday, 31 May 2022 14:41 (one year ago) link

give them a basketball team back, for starters

ciderpress, Tuesday, 31 May 2022 14:44 (one year ago) link

they need to take it lets see something from the city of seattle

lag∞n, Tuesday, 31 May 2022 15:11 (one year ago) link

how much cooler would the durant-westbrook-harden thunder have been if they had been the seattle supersonics and not the oklahoma city thunder. would presti have gone into the tax to keep harden? would durant have stayed? we can only assume yes to both questions

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Tuesday, 31 May 2022 15:17 (one year ago) link

oh yeah and also they wouldve learned to share the ball and keep harden happy as well, because of seattle chill vibes, another yes.

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Tuesday, 31 May 2022 15:18 (one year ago) link

yeah i think ultimately that trio was just never going to work not enough basketballs

lag∞n, Tuesday, 31 May 2022 15:20 (one year ago) link

im sure ive posted about it on here before but i was actually a sonics fan as a kid and only switched back to the celtics in 08 when they were finally good at the same time as the sonics died. i am not a pure celtics fan despite living in MA my whole life

ciderpress, Tuesday, 31 May 2022 15:21 (one year ago) link

the initial celtics pitch when i was first old enough to watch & enjoy basketball was "their star player has died and they are going to be bad for a while" which was not compelling to child me

ciderpress, Tuesday, 31 May 2022 15:23 (one year ago) link

lmao yeah that was a rough time

lag∞n, Tuesday, 31 May 2022 15:24 (one year ago) link

awful

fact fans in this thread may want to note that the len bias pick belonged to.... the seattle supersonics before they traded it for gerald henderson and cash

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 31 May 2022 15:29 (one year ago) link

well add to all that the mid90s Sonics were fun as hell, I definitely rocked a Kemp jersey even in a Celtics fan house

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Tuesday, 31 May 2022 15:38 (one year ago) link

kemp was a phenomenon, he transcended team loyalties

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 31 May 2022 15:53 (one year ago) link

oh yeah and also they wouldve learned to share the ball and keep harden happy as well, because of seattle chill vibes, another yes.


otoh jittery from constant coffee drinking field goal % plummets and frasier & niles (co-head coaches) can’t ever agree on a scheme and each game becomes a predictable farce, doesn’t sound great

Clay, Tuesday, 31 May 2022 16:02 (one year ago) link

Got golden state in 6!

— Jayson Tatum (@jaytatum0) May 28, 2015

Chyiv Kyiv (Fetchboy), Tuesday, 31 May 2022 17:58 (one year ago) link

At least for the conference finals, 538 had the Mavs as the favorites (maybe even overwhelmingly so) to reach and even win the finals.

Gianni Fursace (Leee), Tuesday, 31 May 2022 18:50 (one year ago) link

that vaguely makes sense to me that hthe same model would like the celtics and mavs

ciderpress, Tuesday, 31 May 2022 19:46 (one year ago) link

“Analytics darlings”

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Tuesday, 31 May 2022 22:26 (one year ago) link

I'm rooting for the Warriors for an odd reason: when the Raptors won, I really admired that I never heard Curry or any of the Warriors blame or even mention losing Durant and Thompson for the series. Maybe the Raptors would have won anyway, but realistically, probably not. But no one on the Warriors tried to put any kind of a damper on that at all--they let us enjoy that moment 100%.

clemenza, Tuesday, 31 May 2022 22:39 (one year ago) link

they are true mensches

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Tuesday, 31 May 2022 22:46 (one year ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Wednesday, 1 June 2022 00:01 (one year ago) link

the people have spoken. the series will be won on the road

ciderpress, Wednesday, 1 June 2022 00:19 (one year ago) link

15-11 is a pretty tight split!

Clay, Wednesday, 1 June 2022 00:31 (one year ago) link

Smh at all these GSW homers

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Wednesday, 1 June 2022 00:33 (one year ago) link

heard that most of the warriors voters are casuals

lag∞n, Wednesday, 1 June 2022 01:22 (one year ago) link

15-11 seems about right.

Spottie, Wednesday, 1 June 2022 01:35 (one year ago) link

Casual homer here for sure

DJI, Wednesday, 1 June 2022 14:47 (one year ago) link

same

Chyiv Kyiv (Fetchboy), Wednesday, 1 June 2022 15:14 (one year ago) link

smh you guys need to study up

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lag∞n, Wednesday, 1 June 2022 15:18 (one year ago) link

im rooting for all the players to have a fun time and the boston celtics to win

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 1 June 2022 15:30 (one year ago) link

agreed

is it just because i started getting into basketball again over the last couple of years, or is it objectively true that ancillary NBA-related content on youtube, podcasts, twitter etc has absolutely gone supernova

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 1 June 2022 15:35 (one year ago) link

not just NBA, basically any type of content that can be made at home went supernova due to pandemic

ciderpress, Wednesday, 1 June 2022 15:47 (one year ago) link

yeah makes sense

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 1 June 2022 15:51 (one year ago) link

I’ve been told on good authority that it’s not yet Thursday. The waiting is the hardest part…

that's not my post, Wednesday, 1 June 2022 16:03 (one year ago) link

is it just because i started getting into basketball again over the last couple of years, or is it objectively true that ancillary NBA-related content on youtube, podcasts, twitter etc has absolutely gone supernova

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few year ago basically only zach lowe and coach nick were doing Xs and Os type breakdowns and now theres tons of it, golden age of people explaining basketball to you

lag∞n, Wednesday, 1 June 2022 16:11 (one year ago) link

i love to have basketball explained to me

ciderpress, Wednesday, 1 June 2022 16:11 (one year ago) link

it is nice

lag∞n, Wednesday, 1 June 2022 16:13 (one year ago) link

the various youtubers i could really live without, stuff like this is very fun to me though

would enjoy a youtuber if they did this stuff

https://medium.com/the-basketball-dictionary/ice-f9ea7d7d7d51

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 1 June 2022 16:30 (one year ago) link

thinking basketball has good youtubes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN6ylx2b0bs

lag∞n, Wednesday, 1 June 2022 16:44 (one year ago) link

https://medium.com/the-basketball-dictionary/ice-f9ea7d7d7d51

kinda a disturbing read, basketball is just supposed to be hoisting and then running back (picked W's in 7)

brisk money (lukas), Wednesday, 1 June 2022 16:47 (one year ago) link

thank you for the link lagoon i am going to just gorilla my way through the guy's explainer voice because i am thirsty for the content

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 1 June 2022 16:54 (one year ago) link

lol his voice is so normal compared to most youtubers

lag∞n, Wednesday, 1 June 2022 16:56 (one year ago) link

maybe because hes more of a podcaster, obvs podcaster voice is very annoying but its nothing compared to youtubers most of whom sound like a 11 year old reading a book report and/or like theyve never spoken before

lag∞n, Wednesday, 1 June 2022 16:58 (one year ago) link


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