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I am on Full Tilt! Literally! Because I had my AK and KK "broken" by the same guy w/ AA! Yay bad luck!

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 26 October 2006 19:51 (seventeen years ago) link

And again! Awesome!

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 26 October 2006 20:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Hi dere,

I was off sick yesterday and played a little bit of poker and managed to fluke my best day ever! Up $440 or so in under 600 hands, thanks to an SNG win and some good times at $50 and £50NL 6max.

Highlight was hitting the nut straight on the turn and pushing all-in over a guy re-raising with a set - hello $280 pot! What might have been the highlight, but for a tremendous laydown on the villain's part, was my last hand - AA, hit a set on the turn (which also brought three to the flush), bet 3/4 of what was already a massive pot and a guy with a lower (flopped) set managed to find a fold. Considering we both had 3 x buyins at this point, I was looking at a $570 pot if he'd been a tiny bit braver/more foolhardy.

=== temporary username === (Mark C), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 13:55 (seventeen years ago) link

I am down $360 since joining FullTilt. THANKS MARK.

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 14:03 (seventeen years ago) link

But you got rakeback, right? Please tell me you have rakeback? I made $222 in Otcober through rakeback alone. Which was nice.

p.s. why does my firefox no longer recognise the poundsign? Do I have to start writing GBP from now on?

=== temporary username === (Mark C), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 14:27 (seventeen years ago) link

I have rakeback, yeah, but I think the sign-in bonus I'm working on is deducting from the rakeback.

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 14:36 (seventeen years ago) link

two months pass...
David and I went to Foxwoods Sunday. The $1/$2 NL tables there are really an experience; I never thought I'd see top pair take down a gigantic pot with multiple 20xBB pre-flop calls, but it happened at least a dozen times.

Lowlight: QQ against Bluffin' Grandma, a genuinely terrible player who's gone all-in with garbage twice in the past five minutes and donked away about $300 in a half-hour. I raised to $12 pre-flop, three callers, check-raise to $20 post-flop (7-4-2, two diamonds), and everybody folds but Grandma, who immediately goes all-in on the Kc turn. No way she's got that king - I'm thinking A7d at best - so I call her, scare card be damned. Turns out Grandma's been slow-playing aces, and I wave goodbye to a day's work.

I'll let David tell the story of how he got his kings cracked, which is one of the most unbelievable things I've ever seen in a poker game.

govern yourself accordingly (dayan), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 16:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, you mean the KK I raise to $20-25, got one caller (from a kinda loose, kinda shitty, very large-stacked player that was catching lots of cards after catching nothing), and played all in on a 235 two-to-the-flush flop? And she turns over A4 offsuit? Yeah, I took a walk after that.

The Rest Of The Story: after Daniel & I lick our wounds @ the buffet, we both decide to give it another go. This was around 6:30 - 7 PM. I cash in the remaining $200 I earmarked as Fun Money, & sit down @ another table. Dan & his buddy stop by a few hours later (where I hear about the QQ story), and I'm down another $100+, making my losses on the day a little more than $400. This included some shitwit chasing a flush & gutshot straight w/ (I think) A4 suited, despite me doing my best to bet him out. And said dude, of course, catches the STRAIGHT FLUSH on the river.

By the time I left (@ 5 AM), I was up $450. Doi. I actually blogged about it in a general-audience style (because what else am I gonna do after playing poker for 14 hours?), but the short of it: drunk Patriots fans that don't know when to bail out are the best guys to play against.

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 16:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Actually, I'm thinking that the shitwit was chasing the flush / straight w/ 35 or 25, because I had AJ, and I paired the A on the flop. And it wasn't even that the dude caught - he was playing footloose & fancy free all night. It was the fact that the dude acted like he had me over a barrel, when he actually only had 13 outs, and the river bailed his stupid ass out.

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 16:35 (seventeen years ago) link

there's a game in nyc on the 27th. yall should come, yo.

Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 16:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Yo, I'm there. Gives me a chance to lose the money I won this weekend against folks that aren't HOLY SHIT BRAH THE PATS WON.

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 16:45 (seventeen years ago) link

wish i had made the foxwoods trip. i haven't played casino poker in well over a year. just recently started playing at all again (up $2k so far this year).

Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 16:53 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost -

I believe I'm thinking of another bad KK beat (which doesn't seem totally out of the question, given how badly the first few hours at that table went for you). The guy you faced up (and I remember it being somebody else across the table sitting in the Raving Maniac seat, not her) was playing A6s with two spades on the flop and caught his ace on the turn and then his spade on the river, effectively beating you twice. No idea why he called your raise in the first place.

NB: I oughta point out that for every time I couldn't fold top two pair against a totally obvious flush draw or called a $30 raise to chase an eight-outer, there was the time I beat aforementioned maniac on a nut flush or rode AK to megabucks against some meathead; I only finished down $150 for the day, which isn't a huge amount of money by any means. I just wish we didn't have to leave so early to drive back, since by the sounds of it, it got as loose after the Pats game as I figured it would.

Nice comeback, though that dude's AQ story is the fishiest thing ever.

I'll see what I can do about the NYC game. We should definitely put together a bigger Foxwoods group next time.

govern yourself accordingly (dayan), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 16:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, yeah, THAT KK beat. That was against Ye Olde Manne what couldn't be bothered to pay attention half the time, and folding more often than not, suddenly having his Viagkra kick in after getting AT (I think) suited, and flopping 2 more suited cards (no pair) and calling my $60-70ish AI, then, yeah, beating me two times.

Folks love them flush draws, especially if they have an A, regardless of how shit the kicker is. Folks just love playing hands, really - whether it has something to do w/ the mystique of the World Series & wanting to be the devil-may-care 37 maverick, or just wanting to gamble, it seems like a lot of folks just like throwing their shit around @ the lower stakes tables. I'd probably cry & piss myself if I sat down @ a high stakes table right now.

And, to be fair, DC, my streak happened around 2 AM, so it was well after the Pats game. Right after last call, I think. COINCIDENCE?

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 17:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Hey everyone,

More tales like the above please! It makes online poker look like the glorified masturbation it really is.

But... it's glorified masturbation that's made me $10,000!! I did my sums the other night and worked out that between bonuses, rakeback and poker profits, Sunday night's play took me into 5 figure winnings. Man that felt good :)

I guess I owe Chris V half my winnings a hearty vote of thanks for getting me started - if he hadn't posted the opening post to this very thread I might never have given it a go :)

=== temporary username === (Mark C), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 17:32 (seventeen years ago) link

I gotta give this a go. Only played no-money lunchtime games so I'm not expecting to rake it in but should be fun to try out. Where should I start - sites, games, etc?

ledge (ledge), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 17:53 (seventeen years ago) link

I gotta give this a go. Only played no-money lunchtime games so I'm not expecting to rake it in but should be fun to try out. Where should I start - sites, games, etc?

Seconding this request.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 18:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Tom, Chris - add me to your buddy lists on AIM (markelby) or MSN (boyincorduroy@yahoo.c o m) any time. I'm probably not in tonight, or at least not till after 11pm GMT, but I have AIM on during the work day too. Or you could just email me.

First thing you can do - register with Partypoker.com or pokerstars.com and start playing the play money games and reading the small tutorials if they'd be useful. The games'll be silly but you'll get a hang of the interface etc. If you sign up for Pokerstars (currently the biggest, most highly regarded site) and there's somewhere you can say that someone referred you, please tell them efil4elbmow sent you :)

If you can afford $50 or so, then deposit that and play the lowest buyin real money games - $0.01/$0.02 no-limit at Stars (double at Party), where it'd be hard to lose more than $10 even if you played blindfolded. It's a lot better than the play money tables because even when such tiny sums are at stake, people care about the outcome - when the chips are pretend, they could just push with every hand.

Anyway - AIM/MSN me when I'm next on and we can chat more. I have LOTS of stuff to tell you!

=== temporary username === (Mark C), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 18:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Final post of the day - I'm going to go through this thread, find the names of everyone who expressed an interest - might be as many as 20 people, most of whom still post here - and try and get another private game together. I might be able to set up a private tourney which would be rad, as long as enough people are interested. And anyone who hasn't posted to this thread before but might be intrigued - just say hi!

=== temporary username === (Mark C), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 18:34 (seventeen years ago) link

God damn - I posted a SLEW of crap, and some brainfart in the ILX hivemind ate the post & told me I typed NOTHING. Grrrrrrrrr.

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 18:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Online, only a few sites are allowing US players to play for cash money (THANK YOU MR. BUSH) - FullTiltPoker is one of them, & it's the dealer of choice for both me & Mr. C0h3n. They offer both pay & play games, sit-down cash games and tournaments, o

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 18:42 (seventeen years ago) link

HAY THERE IT IS

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 18:43 (seventeen years ago) link

I'd be in for an online game!

Si.C@rter (SiC@rter), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 18:50 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm definitely interested in an ilxor game, but bear in mind that US players' options are really limited right now, due to anti-gambling legislation. (xpost- what David said)

http://www.flopturnriver.com/US-Friendly-Poker-Rooms.php

It might be wise to cross-reference with this list, and also to consider that Full Tilt is basically the only solution for US Mac users at this point; Bodog stopped development of their Mac client last month, and Pokerroom no longer accepts US bets.

govern yourself accordingly (dayan), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 18:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes, sorry I forgot about the new US issues. Full Tilt it is then, though if anyone who hasn't signed up there is serious about playing a decent amount in the future, then you should go to rakerebate.net and follow their signup instructions. This will save you 27% of the rake you'd otherwise be paying - and when you bear in mind my rake this month alone is already $397, it could form a significant part of your winnings.

=== temporary username === (Mark C), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 20:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Ha - my post lost to the ether suggested RakeTheRake for FTP, which also offers 27%. I had 30% from Hollywood Poker, but, alas, they're part of the PokerRoom network, which hates fun & America.

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 20:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes, I also use RaketheRake and they're very good. 27% is the most you can get with Full Tilt, apparently.

=== temporary username === (Mark C), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 23:28 (seventeen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
Update time! What are your February goals? How was January?

I had a pretty decent Jan - made about $1500 or so, played 11k hands of cash and maybe a dozen SNGs - and a couple of MTTs which both ended with bad beats a few dozen hands outside the money. I am still playing mostly £50NL 6max, but am getting frustrated with the lack of tables - even at peak times at Crypto there are maybe only a dozen, and I don't know of any other sites - apart from the Boss network which I am loathe to use as it doesn't support Poker Tracker - that provide £ tables.

The reason I am so keen to play in sterling is because I am an overall loser at $100NL but am making 10PTBB/100 at £50 which is very pleasing indeed. The game is simply far easier.

=== temporary username === (Mark C), Monday, 5 February 2007 13:02 (seventeen years ago) link

In total I think I'm about $5 down after 5 hours total play on the minnow tables. Yay!

Think I'm gonna have to put the poker ambitions on hold for a little while, feeling too stressed/depressed about job/career/life changing plans to devote any energy towards it. May buy a book and do some offline studying.

ledge (ledge), Monday, 5 February 2007 13:20 (seventeen years ago) link

OKAY NYC FOLKS: THIS SATURDAY. LET'S PLAY.

Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Monday, 5 February 2007 14:51 (seventeen years ago) link

i played online poker while watching louis theroux in las vegas the other night. it was tops. i pwn3d a bunch of losers on the money table for like $30 and then battled my way through one of those cheapo $5 buy in 10player tournaments and won another $25.

small fish though really. but it made me feel better esp seeing all the addicts on l.t. losing $$$$$$$$$$$$$$s.

ken c (ken c), Monday, 5 February 2007 15:07 (seventeen years ago) link

I watched that too - bizarrely I was just about to start a thread on it (to talk less about the programme and more about the much-noticed similarity between Louis and ILX's very own Jel) but I didn't know where to put it.

I also played poker during it but, after 600 grinding, tedious, painful hands I finished down £35 (though rb and bonus makes it about breakeven). Man I've seldom enjoyed poker so little - but in comparison to all these astonishingly self-deluded idiots (the Roberto Baggio/Toadfish out of Neighbours fellow in particular) I felt like I had a money-printing machine in front of me.

=== temporary username === (Mark C), Monday, 5 February 2007 16:08 (seventeen years ago) link

one month passes...
Serendipitous juxtaposition on me table tonight (I am SRSLY):

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v222/biondino/orlysrsly.jpg

Mark C, Thursday, 29 March 2007 23:58 (seventeen years ago) link

How's everyone getting on? I am in the biggest (in terms of number of hands played) downswing of my career - 9 buyins down, approximately, though fingers crossed, I seem to be levelling off. I have also moved up, for the most part, to 6max $100NL as my main game, which is tricky and swingy but I feel I am actually progressing - a good session tonight, in terms of gameplay if not profit.

Mark C, Friday, 30 March 2007 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

have you guys been on PKR.COM yet????? looks well good from the adverts..

ken c, Friday, 30 March 2007 07:34 (seventeen years ago) link

I signed up for it when it was in beta but it was SO slow I gave up. Also, it's all very well you can laugh, stretch, scratch your balls etc. but isn't all that a bit of a distraction from the game? Maybe if it distracts your opponents then it's all good.

Tell us more, anyway, Ken - it might be unrecognisable from when I last had a go.

Mark C, Friday, 30 March 2007 11:10 (seventeen years ago) link

i haven't had a go yet - i saw the flashy advert and downloaded it but haven't yet signed up.

it might be good as an added extra to play mind games with opponents like be cocky and that. and also, perhaps because it's so fancy pansy that the kind of people it will attract are gonna be gullible n00bs i.e. easy money!

ken c, Friday, 30 March 2007 13:56 (seventeen years ago) link

I playing a proper person table game tommorow, which will be nice i gave up for a few months got sick of coming fourth in tournaments

secondhandnews, Friday, 30 March 2007 15:52 (seventeen years ago) link

David and I went back to Foxwoods a few weeks ago. There was a ton of easy money at our table for the first three or four hours (inc. one tweaky guy between me and Dave who was absolutely bleeding money - straddled every single time R4posa was BB, claimed to have been up for 48 hours, and I believed him), but I was running so card-dead that I couldn't get at any of it; I played well, didn't chase with any of a million mediocre drawing hands, and managed to bluff my way +$80 or so when we broke to eat dinner.

Afterwards, it got a little disastrous - I limped in with pocket threes from UTG+1, three other callers. For some reason, after the 7h7c2h flop, I decided to sell a bluff flush draw the entire way. Turn card was a low heart, I bet big, everybody folded but UTG (super loose/passive, and a little drunk), who called. River was another low heart, UTG checked, I made a pot-sized bet (by now knowing he might have had the flush, but no way he had the nut), UTG called and turned over 8h7s for the eight-high flush. I ran into the guy later, and he said he was "pissed off" that his flopped trip sevens would have lost to a flush draw. 8-7 offsuit from UTG?!

Of course I didn't have anything, but I have no idea what he could have possibly put me on. I asked him afterwards what I could have bet on the river to make him lay it down, and he said he was prepared to go all-in. He didn't seem to be kidding. Calling a $150 river bet with four hearts on the board and eight-high?

I managed to make up what I lost there and a little more playing a bunch of Omaha on Full Tilt; I'm sinking most of <i>that</i> into bracelet races and WSOP super-satellites as we speak. Running about even for the year, but planning on driving back down to Foxwoods on April 15. Are we ever going to get an ilxor game together? I'm not sure exactly how to set up a private SnG on Full Tilt, but I'm totally up for playing in one. (Possible cash game option: figure out how many players are in, agree upon a limit and variation, find an empty table, and all sit down at an agreed-upon time?)

govern yourself accordingly, Saturday, 31 March 2007 04:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Hey govern, what was your old-ilx name? I am having real problems keeping up with who's who now.

I was off work yesterday and played 1,500 hands of $100NL. OMG swingy - I was down $300 before I could breath, but managed to calw my way back to +$110. Man that felt good :)

Here's a linky for y'all - I am charting my progress, throwing in a few stats and hands, on this thread on Flopturnriver.com (which srsly you should all join, it's ace), so go have a look and make a comment :)

Mark C, Saturday, 31 March 2007 10:32 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.lolrider.com/shutupanddeal.jpg

ken c, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 10:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Brilliant poker book = Positively 5th Street by James McManus. Beautifully written, fascinating and involving.

Mark C, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 11:02 (seventeen years ago) link

i don't think any book can be more beautiful than one written by Jesse May

ken c, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 11:07 (seventeen years ago) link

What do you know, $25NL donk >:[

Mark C, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 11:31 (seventeen years ago) link

the mcmanus book is awful! he is such a dolt. the much better mcmanus piece was the original harpers one that p5s takes off of. seriously, so so so so so much better.

i could conceivably be down for foxwoods on the 15th. i haven't played in at least two months.

YGS, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 13:53 (seventeen years ago) link

also, us poker peoples, what can i use to deposit money now online? and which sites allow us players?

YGS, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 13:54 (seventeen years ago) link

I doubt y'all watch much WSOP on ESPN, but I think there was some kerfuffle a few years back involving McManus and some dude that looked like the dad of Bubbles from The Wire, w/ McM taking serious umbrage @ Bubs Sr. doing something gauche (checking in the dark or something), & not shutting up about it because That's Not How You Play Poker.

FullTilt still allows US folks, & they have a list of places you can use to transfer money. However, from what I gather, most of these places hit you up w/ serious fees.

David R., Tuesday, 3 April 2007 13:57 (seventeen years ago) link

It's not awful! It really isn't! Each to his own, mind :)

Yancey (it is Yancey right?) - here's a handy link to US-friendly sites. As for depositing, EPassporte seems to be the best option (though unlike Neteller, it's not free to make transfers), though you can also use things like pre-paid visa cards, some debit cards and then there's workaround methods like having foreigners transfer the money to you (works on sites like FT and Stars, not sure about others).

Remember to either get rakeback sorted (through sites like Rake the Rake or [url=[Removed Illegal Link], both of which I use), or confirm that rakeback isn't possible, before signing up for new sites. Stars doesn't offer rb but Full Tilt does and I think Absolute and UB (which I hear may be merging) do too, and several of the smaller sites still open to US players definitely do. Email me if you want more info etc.

If you have Neteller, then I'd be happy to do a transfer to you direct on a site if you Neteller me the cash. Again, email if you'd be interested.

Mark C, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 14:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Second rb site was http://www.rakerebate.net

Mark C, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 14:03 (seventeen years ago) link

one month passes...
Update time please! How was April for you? Here's muh graph:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v222/biondino/April2007.jpg

$100nl is hard. Not impossible hard, but you really need to keep your wits about you. One tilting session can decimate a month's profits; scared play will just see you bleed chips. God knows how higher stakes players don't go crazy.

Mark C, Thursday, 3 May 2007 14:25 (seventeen years ago) link


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