Democratic (Party) Direction

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Pareene:

…I invite the reader to think about the implications of the fact that those people with power cannot answer my question with anything remotely credible. What are you going to do about the fact that we all know you can’t do anything?

https://theap.substack.com/p/the-unanswered-question

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Thursday, 26 May 2022 19:00 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

https://www.npr.org/2022/06/13/1104843151/senator-dianne-feinstein-cognitive-health-continues-to-raise-concerns-traister

Every question I asked — about the radicalization of the GOP, the end of Roe, the failures of Congress — was met with a similar sunny imperviousness, evincing an undiminished belief in institutional power that may in fact explain a lot about where Feinstein and other Democratic leaders have gone wrong.

DJI, Tuesday, 14 June 2022 21:45 (one year ago) link

Great work by the photo editor at the top of the Traister piece (that the above link is citing)

Vance Vance Devolution (sic), Tuesday, 14 June 2022 22:21 (one year ago) link

The link you cited.

DJI, Tuesday, 14 June 2022 22:54 (one year ago) link

Law enforcement are often paid less than a living wage, and that is wrong.

We must raise pay for officers and address violent crime as we work to build community trust and foster law enforcement accountability.

— Stacey Abrams (@staceyabrams) June 23, 2022

rob, Friday, 24 June 2022 12:30 (one year ago) link

we need to better remunerate violent crime when it is committed by the state, got it

Tracer Hand, Friday, 24 June 2022 13:09 (one year ago) link

killers/accomplices should be paid a living wage, unlike, say, teachers, got it

rob, Friday, 24 June 2022 13:30 (one year ago) link

I would love to have that donation back right about now.

Salvador Dalí Mini-Me (PBKR), Friday, 24 June 2022 13:33 (one year ago) link

I mean, there’s a reason it starts with that and has accountability in the thread several tweets down

I’m not going to pretend to be so naive as to think any of these lists is going to start with accountability

mh, Friday, 24 June 2022 14:18 (one year ago) link

I find all the *clever* liberal posts right now really disheartening. I have no problem with anyone mourning or howling at the moon, but all these pithy takes about the irony and hypocrisy of it all feel so ineffectual, like someone muttering to themselves the comeback they should have said hours later

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Saturday, 25 June 2022 13:57 (one year ago) link

i tune out a lot of stuff but ... is there a lot of re-hashing the 2016 election going on on yr social media?

sarahell, Saturday, 25 June 2022 19:02 (one year ago) link

Yes.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 25 June 2022 19:06 (one year ago) link

As if Clinton would've gotten ONE nominee on the court.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 25 June 2022 19:06 (one year ago) link

but what about Bernie? ...

For me, it's not about who has the correct evaluation of "what could have been" ... it is basically just pointlessly re-opening old wounds.

sarahell, Saturday, 25 June 2022 19:12 (one year ago) link

it's like the decades old argument about the appeasement of Hitler

sarahell, Saturday, 25 June 2022 19:13 (one year ago) link

yeah

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 25 June 2022 19:42 (one year ago) link

xp can't believe you voted for Chamberlain

thinkmanship (sleeve), Saturday, 25 June 2022 19:49 (one year ago) link

make her the leader of the party

Here’s how Dems can + must do more than wait for an election.

Let’s start w/ why:

- 7 of the 9 justices were appointed by a party that hasn’t won a popular vote more than once in 30 years

- 1 of those seats was stolen

- Several lied to Congress to secure their appointment…

— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@AOC) June 25, 2022

frogbs, Saturday, 25 June 2022 19:51 (one year ago) link

i guess the cops whom the democratic party simply can not give enough money will be the ones arresting women from the wrong states who seek abortions

no one wants to twerk anymore (will), Saturday, 25 June 2022 20:27 (one year ago) link

it would make me feel better if AOC were having these conversations with administration & elected officials instead of her twitter followers but maybe she is doing that too. i hope she is. i am very very depressed like many of you though and i can’t see the light at the end of this tunnel.

Tracer Hand, Saturday, 25 June 2022 20:34 (one year ago) link

probably worth noting that Nancy and her donors would like nothing more than for AOC et al to be successfully primaried

no one wants to twerk anymore (will), Saturday, 25 June 2022 20:43 (one year ago) link

sad lol

aegis philbin (crüt), Saturday, 25 June 2022 20:46 (one year ago) link

And everyone except Nancy and her donors wishes she was dead

broccoli rabe thomas (the table is the table), Saturday, 25 June 2022 20:50 (one year ago) link

it would make me feel better if AOC were having these conversations with administration & elected officials

Biden's Press Secretary went out and reiterated his opposition to expanding the Court yesterday - not that anyone expects him to change his mind but at least fake being less useless in this moment, right? Talking to her twitter followers is somehow less useless than hitting up Joe's people about What Is To Be Done.

papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 25 June 2022 21:15 (one year ago) link

keep trying to win state legislatures is probably the most bang for the buck thing that can be done immediately - I know they fucked that up in 2020 but it doesn't mean stop trying, GOP has been at it for years.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Saturday, 25 June 2022 21:40 (one year ago) link

AIR FORCE ONE (@CNN) — Speaking to reporters aboard Air Force One, press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre said Biden **does not** agree with calls to expand SCOTUS, or eliminate the filibuster, throwing cold water on steps some liberal Democrats have called for in the wake of Dobbs.

— Mike Valerio (@ValerioCNN) June 25, 2022

Working hard to get the incoming House minority under 120 seats.

papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 25 June 2022 21:54 (one year ago) link

I don't think the Democrats declined to pass a federal law protecting abortion rights because it would prevent them from fundraising off the threat or Roe being overturned. If they did pass such a law, they could still fundraise off the obviously correct idea that once in power, the GOP would repeal that law AND appoint justices that would overturn Roe.

I think the reason they didn't do it is just because they didn't have to. Passing a law to protect abortion rights just wasn't necessary to maintain their brand as the left alternative to the Republicans on that issue.

JRN, Saturday, 25 June 2022 22:07 (one year ago) link

Would expanding the Court actually work though? My fear is that when not if Republicans gain control of Congress again, they would just ram through even more conservative justices. Term/age limits make more sense, but none of these things does anything in the short term.

gjoon1, Saturday, 25 June 2022 22:41 (one year ago) link

Sort of like the Democratic Party.

The Democratic Party is so moribund that it should seriously be considering a "let's just do it and be legends" strategy for pretty much anything at this point.

Am I doomposting? I would say you’re not doomposting enough. (PBKR), Saturday, 25 June 2022 22:55 (one year ago) link

Pursue the broadly popular policies you run on, protect voting rights etc. etc. perhaps the risk of a Republican trifecta declines.

papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 25 June 2022 23:03 (one year ago) link

Impossible for YOLO to be less effective than “just you wait until we have 73 Democratic Senators, then we’ll show you.”

papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 25 June 2022 23:06 (one year ago) link

ah but see the problem is you’d have to actually *want* those things and honestly I don’t get the impression that they care much about anything other than that $$$

no one wants to twerk anymore (will), Saturday, 25 June 2022 23:10 (one year ago) link

they are all the same; all of them. they do not have competing needs or desires or fears or pressures. they do not suffer from many of the same pathetic failings that the rest of humans have. they really are reptiles.

there definitely is a lack of .... competence .... for lack of a better word. idk, it's like those professional sports teams that are almost always the worst in their league. One of the reasons AOC is compelling and inspiring is because she actually comes across as a competent politician. milo otm.

sarahell, Sunday, 26 June 2022 07:28 (one year ago) link

In many ways national politicians are like cops -- in that, to me, it seems like the people that choose that career are inherently flawed

sarahell, Monday, 27 June 2022 17:57 (one year ago) link

in many (most?) professions the "actual job" is not the same as the "stated job."

the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Monday, 27 June 2022 18:01 (one year ago) link

fwiw, valerio deleted the tweet above after people criticized him for mischaracterizing the press sec's words

1. I deleted a couple of tweets cabout this summary of @PressSec's comments on the filibuster because I now have the transcript and I believe that @ValerioCNN's viral tweet mischaracterized @PressSec's remarks.

🧵https://t.co/lLjnFiDEXw

— Judd Legum (@JuddLegum) June 25, 2022

the evasive answer that she gave was not great, and also not exactly indicative that biden supports expanding the court. he almost certainly does not. he did support ending the filibuster on laws relating to voting rights though, and i imagine he is also in favor of a carve out for abortion.

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Monday, 27 June 2022 18:18 (one year ago) link

anyway, this doesn't take away from the broader point of the dems being useless and consulted-to-death

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Monday, 27 June 2022 18:19 (one year ago) link

kinda feel like American democracy is at a point where leadership, particularly at the federal level, has quietly become mere figurehead status, essentially like the British Monarchy. just dumb comforting little stories we like to tell about ourselves for national identity purposes, full of characters who can’t *do* anything except pantomime a certain set of aesthetics we’ll either find comforting or objectionable, usually based on where we live and our consumer choices. capital interests have fully supplanted the ability to “self-govern”—insofar as it has ever existed in this country (outside of white male landowners). the primary difference is that the British at least understand the Queen is a merely a mascot.

I guess the only people who didn’t get the memo are rightwing faux populists. but since nothing they do or think really upsets capital, then hey let ‘em have their little tantrums. it keeps everyone busy and clicking and mad online.

no one wants to twerk anymore (will), Monday, 27 June 2022 18:35 (one year ago) link

sorry folks sleep deprivation turns me into stoned dorm room guy pls don’t ban

no one wants to twerk anymore (will), Monday, 27 June 2022 18:37 (one year ago) link

^^ all that is OTM, idk how you see the Dems as anything but complicit in this. like it was just two weeks ago that Biden was heaping praise on McConnell for being a good friend and a man of his word, even though he cheated the system in plain sight to steal a SC Justice, while Biden himself was VP!! the most unpopular politicians in this country are people like Collins, or Murkowski, or Kasich, or Manchin, or fucking Jeff Flake, those who try to play both sides and wind up serving conservative interests while pissing everyone off. why the hell is the White House straddling that line? they ran on broadly popular policy, accomplished pretty much none of it, and are afraid to act because they don't want to rile up a party who literally calls them the spawn of Satan. it's so pathetic.

now, having said all that, it's not like the Dems will change if you DONT vote for them, so I'm gonna vote for them anyway and hope everyone here does the same

frogbs, Monday, 27 June 2022 19:24 (one year ago) link

Speaking as someone on the ground so to speak we've, typically, gotten no guidance from the Florida party.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 27 June 2022 19:31 (one year ago) link

the real job of the state is to support capital

the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Monday, 27 June 2022 20:02 (one year ago) link

i know i'm adding zero to this discussion here but i've lost hope in things ever getting better, i've lost hope in the democratic party ever changing, i've lost hope in the small leftist wave within the party changing anything. i feel like i've said this several points over the past few years but there's always a little last bit of hope left to break. i think that god bless america video might have finally done it. it's a party of evil people who happened to watch The West Wing once and it'll never be anything more. i want a new party.

, Monday, 27 June 2022 20:42 (one year ago) link

With the wave of unionization efforts, it's too bad the "Labor" brand is as bad as "Democratic."

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 27 June 2022 20:52 (one year ago) link

i want a new party

it's less work to occupy the hollow shell of an existing party, like a hermit crab, than to create a new party. which isn't to say that occupying that shell isn't a monumental task all on its own. so, when you notice someone else valiantly trying to inject some life and sense into the Democratic party, cheer them on and maybe throw them some support.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 27 June 2022 20:55 (one year ago) link

Inside the existing party are powerful and entrenched interests to render your entryism completely ineffective or co-opt you entirely.

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 27 June 2022 20:57 (one year ago) link


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