"we'll change the things that need changing and that's all we'll change": the paSUKification of post-brexit politics 2021

did you hear about the feight at the chippy? I heard a Fisher got battered.

Think this is pretty disingenuous bs from Eagleton jr tbh.

Relying on 'perception' and 'making no such claim' is it now?

I think both "The Eagle" and the Fish are unreliable for different reasons. Oliver can't back down because he's a got a book to plug and isn't going to put his hands up and say: perhaps my brexit chapter padded out with lots of spurious bollox and character slurs, but it's a cracking read. And as for Fisher he's a Labour Party guy - so quite possibly even more untrustworthy and full of shit. No actually, make that "certainly"!

Fisher was a pretty central figure in the Corbyn project, right? I'm pretty sure (don't follow him so could be wrong) he agrees that Starmer isn't worth shit but he'll blanket his criticisms from a policy direction. In the end he is as much of a Lab party guy as Corbyn. They will both tell us to vote Lab on election day.

anyone who tells you to vote Labour, I don't care who it is - Corbyn or Trickett or that big stupid Geordie doorman or OJ, well they all lack integrity imo.

They all lack integrity. But we all voted for them once upon a time because this rumbled left -- the fact that Starmer was in the cabinet at all is because of lack of left-wing alternatives -- is the best we had.

Don't really think lack of integrity is Corbyn's problem so much as a dogged conviction that this is the only hope going forward despite huge evidence to the contrary. Not that it matters in practical terms.

Oops:

gyac wrote this on thread "we'll change the things that need changing and that's all we'll change": the paSUKification of post-brexit politics 2021 on board I Love Everything on 10-May-2022

bier korma must resign

Boris Johnson calls the Labour leader: "Sir Beer Korma"

— John Stevens (@johnestevens) May 25, 2022

lol!

you got me, I’m running the country rn

and no, I do not accept constructive feedback on my role, thx

You didn't come up with Vladimir Corbyn too did you?

I wish, it flows so, idk, easily?!

Quiet like the Don, perhaps.

Let’s take this beef to the thread where people aren’t mourning dead children

imago
Posted: 25 May 2022 at 16:01:30
ukilx has driven away anyone interesting or good-natured, leaving in its wake a hive of dickheads

do tell!

venting. i'm fond of most of you but when that alphabet cunt tears into me over and over again it's weird how we're both to blame at best, and he gets backed up at worst

I have said to him both online and off that his beef is boring, repetitive and tedious in the extreme!

Also he was actually behaving more appropriately on this occasion?

A hive of dickheads that treated me with kindness when I had lies being told about me - my kind of hive, regardless of whether you consider them dickheads or not.

ukilx has driven away anyone interesting or good-natured, leaving in its wake a hive of dickheads

― imago, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 bookmarkflaglink

Like you?

Sorry imago, but you’ve dropped this accusation in a few times now, so let’s talk about it.

don't think it'll go any different than the last time we did so I vote no

I have said to him both online and off that his beef is boring, repetitive and tedious in the extreme!

As have I.

He won't take a telling though!

That's right

look we can all be forgiven for hyperbole in moments of passion right

loads of good posters have quit but that is by-the-by, some good ones remain, and most present are capable of good posting (no such thing as a good poster only good posts etc); i was being typically brusque

but to have this wanker pop up to belittle me, call me an idiot, ludicrous, a joke, a Tory etc at every given opportunity is kind of wearing

Also a Blur fan.

I would also like it if Comrade Alph laid off but that last post was lol

otm

what's it all about, alphie?

As ever I am mildly curious about the specifics of who is ukilx, which posters did they drive out, how, why should I care, but I too cast my worthless vote in favour of using this thread to discuss politics in the uk instead of something that has zero to do with politics (some lame internet beef)

Yeah sorry, stuck it in here bc it came up in here before, and also to get out of American thread.

I believe the Sue Grey report was out today lads

it's not as good as Fifty Shades tbh

uk politics thread is done with uk politics for the foreseeable

I believe the Sue Grey report was out today lads

Finding out that people who work at No. 10 are a shower of entitled cunts has come as a real shock to me.

sad as I am I put the radio on earlier just to hear "Sir Beer Khorma" but must have missed it + all I heard was Blackford sounding like some pompous puritan minister and Starmer sounding like a cunt as per "it's time to pack your bags" he says in that voice.

Ugh, Blackford, he's the worst, pompous puffed up little toad, the SNP need their heads examined making him Leader in the House of Commons.

"people engaging in dranking & debauchery ... people sitting on each other's laps"

"Yesterday, I chaired an event a mile away from Westminster where the heads of a few of the charities working at the eye of this storm revealed what they are seeing right now. At food banks run by the Trussell Trust, its chief executive Emma Revie said, people now turn up asking for “kettle packs”: food that can be cooked using only an electric kettle. They take away hot-water bottles and blankets, what she called “artefacts of destitution”. Clare Moriarty, the chief executive officer of Citizens Advice, remembered how a woman waiting in one bureau last week burst into tears. What’s wrong?, asked a member of staff. Nothing, replied the lady, but this is the warmest I’ve been in months."

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/may/25/boris-johnson-prime-minister

Does contain one or two subtweets of The Guardian's political desk.

So yesterday I learned that the Tories have snuck in that if you fail Maths or English GCSE even once you are no longer eligible for Student Loan and can only make it through Uni if you are self funded.

— Planet Beth (@PlanetBeth91) May 25, 2022

jfc. This is the first I've heard of this. So now if you are dyslexic and not funded by family money then forget about further education or just got some bad GCSE results, or a late developer. I really despise this country.

So, even if you pass a retake, etc?

That's bad.

Poster Imago: did you leave Charlton? A thing about you that I liked was that you supported Charlton Athletic -- very much the local team of my childhood.

I still support them! Just from my ivory tower of Hampstead Garden Suburb now #guillotine #posho

Labour going into coalition with the Tories and Lib Dems in Edinburgh.https://t.co/ZCMi14hWth

— libcom.org (@libcomorg) May 26, 2022

Good for you, Imago.

I went to Hampstead recently. It was a very rare experience - had almost literally never been. It was fascinating. A different world. One thought I had was, basically: usually when you find a 'posh area' there is a 'poor area' about 500 yards away. But here, it seemed, there wasn't. The 'posh area' went on for miles and miles, uninterrupted. I had never seen anything quite like it.

Unsure if the Garden Suburb is the same, though, as what I saw, which was nearer Hampstead Heath Overground and, I think, Hampstead tube.

Yeah, HGS is more East Finchley - it is a conservation area and very well-to-do (not to mention utterly beautiful to a degree that almost feels occult) but it lacks (thankfully) some of the otiose grandeur you get with Hampstead proper and its ludicrous boutiques, mansions, gurus etc. We were lucky enough to find a flat in one of the courts along the A1 (practically giving my enemies my door number eh) where the rent split in twain is actually cheaper than my dingy Woolwich basement. The HGS project was expressly, and sure, naively utopian during its heyday from the 1890s until the 1930s when my flat was built - the aim was to provide beautiful and harmonious living to all parts of society. What that's meant in actuality is that I am the region's riff-raff in terms of earnings, housing and political opinions (it's a staunchly Tory ward), so obviously a lot of people are completely excluded. If you don't mind being a little out of the way, though, it's great, and you'll never run out of smoked salmon bagels

There are more working class areas and council estates dotted around where Hampstead Heath overground is (which I don't think of as Hampstead proper,) but between there and Hampstead underground, yeah it's solidly posh to very posh.

I love outer North London - I've lived in various parts of Finchley, only walked through Hampstead Garden Suburb a couple of times when exploring and it is very weird! Congrats.