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These are the some of the teams I'd check:

'27 Yankees
'30 A's
'41 or '47 Yankees
'55 Dodgers
'67 Cardinals
'70 Orioles
'75 Reds
'98 Yankees

clemenza, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 02:05 (one year ago) link

'98 yankees are surprisingly light! jeter and a late-career tim raines on the batting side, only rivera on the pitching side, i think? in addition to those three, they had kind of astounding number of hall of the very good kinds of players - david cone, david wells, paul o'neill, bernie williams, knoblauch, strawberry

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 25 May 2022 02:24 (one year ago) link

'55 dodgers seem to have 6:

jackie robinson, duke snider, campanella, pee wee reese, and now gil hodges. only one pitcher (a young koufax) unless you also count nutrition shake expert tommy lasorda

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 25 May 2022 02:26 (one year ago) link

The most I found was the '55 Dodgers with seven: Robinson, Campanella, Snider, Reese, Hodges, Koufax, and, with 4 GP and zero PA, Tommy Lasorda (Walt Alston would make eight, plus one or two in the front office, probably). But the real answer, according to a Reddit thread, is nine:

1) "The Yankees from 1928 had 9 HoFer's: Earle Combs, Lou Gehrig, Tony Lazzeri, Babe Ruth, Bill Dickey, Leo Durocher, Waite Hoyt, Herb Pennock, and Stan Coveleski. Their manager Miller Huggins and President Ed Barrow are also inductees."

2) "It's the 1931-33 Yankees with nine: Babe Ruth, Lou Gehrig, Red Ruffing, Bill Dickey, Joe Sewell, Tony Lazzeri, Herb Pennock, Lefty Gomez and Earle Combs."

clemenza, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 02:28 (one year ago) link

Yeah, even the best modern teams seem to max out at three or four, with lots of borderline guys who missed.

clemenza, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 02:30 (one year ago) link

'75 reds (3) joe morgan, johnny bench, tony perez. no pete rose, because betting on baseball is not allowed in stadiums that do not have official partnerships with daily fantasy baseball betting

'70 orioles (3) frank robinson, brooks robinson, jim palmer

'67 cards (4) orlando cepeda, lou brock, steve carlton, bob gibson (cepeda and brock probably should not be in the HoF. tim mccarver and curt flood probably both should be, for non-playing reasons. I feel like mccarver had a 50% hall of fame playing career and a 75% broadcasting career, and his longevity and counting stats put him over the bump)

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 25 May 2022 02:36 (one year ago) link

(it's very possible i'm miscounting on some of those - just scanning the rosters and going off of memory)

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 25 May 2022 02:37 (one year ago) link

Same numbers I had, I think. The Orioles really surprised me--they only won one WS, but from '69 to '71, they were as good as it gets.

The mid-'90s Braves have four (the big three starters plus Chipper), and could easily end up with six (McGriff and Andruw Jones).

clemenza, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 02:43 (one year ago) link

I’m not sure how easy McGriff and Jones will be.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 25 May 2022 23:53 (one year ago) link

Jones, maybe, but I agree with Posnanski that Baines' induction makes McGriff's a certainty next time he's eligible.

clemenza, Thursday, 26 May 2022 03:08 (one year ago) link

"McGriff will surely be elected by a veterans committee the very first year he is eligible.

He has to be elected by the veterans committee. I mean, you simply cannot vote for Baines and not vote for McGriff. It would be like voting for a Jack in a game of poker but not voting for a King. Baines and McGriff were both left-handed power hitters who played for a very long time and posted wonderful career numbers...it’s just that McGriff was better than Baines in just about every way."

https://theathletic.com/2276390/2020/12/22/the-outsiders-no-23-fred-mcgriff/

clemenza, Thursday, 26 May 2022 03:17 (one year ago) link

Letting baines in opens the door for literally hundreds of players. I can’t make much sense of a lot of the things they do, so I don’t feel like any player is a lock with these guys. For sure McGriff is better, but does it matter tho them?!

Yeah, electing baines was like eliminating the filibuster

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Thursday, 26 May 2022 05:24 (one year ago) link

You could project a bit (a lot) with the 2019 Astros: Altuve, Correa, Verlander, Cole, and Greinke.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Thursday, 26 May 2022 08:40 (one year ago) link

I'm not totally sure why he zeroed in on McGriff--their careers weren't aligned on a timeline, and McGriff only DH'ed ~200 games--but maybe their reputations figured in: good guys who weren't PED users.

I think the Astros would have produced a few for sure, it'll just be a matter of how the scandal is viewed down the road for the hitters.

clemenza, Thursday, 26 May 2022 11:00 (one year ago) link

Pujols' 3000th game had me looking at the career-leaders list...If you assume that Players A, B, and C would be in the HOF if not for PEDs; that Player D would be in if not for his fondness for playing the lottery, and that Players E and F will sail in, there are only two guys in the Top 30 who aren't in the HOF and aren't going in, either. Both are post-WWII.

clemenza, Saturday, 4 June 2022 21:15 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

1. Although half of all MLB commissioners have been lawyers, who was the only commissioner to have served on the bench as a judge?

2. What American League owner and labor lawyer made his fellow owners crabby when he declared during the 1994-95 baseball strike that he would not field a team with replacement players?

3. Name the third-year law student who, in 1978 accepted an offer to manage in the minor leagues after graduation, saying he'd "rather ride the buses in the minor leagues than practice law for a living." Though not all his decisions have been uncontroversial, this one worked out, as he became a major league manager later the following year and went on to win three World Series.

4. With great concern for judicial comity, Senator Chuck Schumer asked this Supreme Court nominee, a Mets fan, whether they would be able to get along with another Justice who was a noted Yankees fan. Name both Justices.

5. "Kranepool flies to right. [REDACTED]."

Thus read an apocryphal note passed to Justice Potter Stewart during oral argument. Ed Kranepool did not in fact fly to right that day, and an actual note from a clerk to the justices placed what political news—redacted above—ahead of a score of Mets 2, Reds 0 in the deciding game of the National League Championship Series.

6. According to a 2009 essay in The Baseball Research Journal, baseball was the most referenced sport in federal and state judicial opinions in the previous century or so. What sport, perhaps more associated with the executive branch, was the second most referenced?

7. In 1944, Jackie Robinson was brought to trial on charges stemming from his refusal to move to the back of a bus in Texas, but unlike Rosa Parks just over a decade later, he did not face his charges in a state court system. In what type of court system was he charged?

8. While many categorized 1995-era replacement players pending settlement of the strike as "bush league," "bushier eyebrows" were cited in newspaper reports as a distinguishing feature of the 2020 evolution of what major league mascot, pending settlement of a copyright lawsuit?

9. Baseball commissioner Rob Manfred left the law firm of Morgan, Lewis & Bockius in 1998 to work for Major League Baseball, which was one of its clients. What other — arguably more valuable — asset did the firm transfer to its client two years later?

10. Congratulations, you've just gotten a federal appellate clerkship! Not only are you off to a great start for your legal career, but you're also working somewhere where you can attend big-league baseball games. Unless, that is, you're in one of the two circuits whose seats are not the home of a major league team. In one of these cities, you can at least go see the Flying Squirrels of the AA Eastern League, but the other city lost its AAA Baby Cakes after the 2019 season. Name either city.

11. In arbitration, when a panel of arbitrators is unable to reach an agreement on an issue, they may submit the issue to an independent party to resolve it. What is the title used to refer to such an individual?

12. A legal appeal, unlike checked swing appeals and replay reviews, generally consists of a review of the application of law to facts, rather than a review of the facts themselves. What baseball procedure, abolished in 2020, took place "when a manager claims that an umpire's decision is in violation of these rules"?

mookieproof, Thursday, 21 July 2022 01:18 (one year ago) link

i got seven right : /

mookieproof, Thursday, 21 July 2022 01:19 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

Don't answer if the same list showed up on your FB feed...Rickey Henderson is #1 on the list of most times on base (H + BB + HBP) in the '80s (both leagues). Who's #2

clemenza, Friday, 26 August 2022 01:56 (one year ago) link

First guess would be Boggs but his career only started in '82, so it's probably someone who played more throughout the decade. Ripken or Yount?

NoTimeBeforeTime, Friday, 26 August 2022 08:18 (one year ago) link

schmidt?

mookieproof, Friday, 26 August 2022 13:04 (one year ago) link

None of them (Boggs #4, Schmidt #9, Ripken lower). The answer surprised me: someone who many (me included) think should be in the HOF but isn't. American League outfielder.

clemenza, Friday, 26 August 2022 13:11 (one year ago) link

My first thought was Tim Raines.

Willie Randolph??

Karl Malone, Friday, 26 August 2022 14:53 (one year ago) link

Good guess on Randolph: 10th. (Raines 8th--might have guessed higher.)

Here's the answer if anyone wants to peek: Dwight Evans. Only 53 times-on-base behind Henderson.

clemenza, Friday, 26 August 2022 15:00 (one year ago) link

where is willie wilson on the list?

mookieproof, Friday, 26 August 2022 15:04 (one year ago) link

Ripken is 18th (and last) on the list with 1,971--I added up Wilson's totals, and he's presumably next with 1,967. Not too fond of walks...

clemenza, Friday, 26 August 2022 15:08 (one year ago) link

Evans being only a few dozen behind Henderson is kind of amazing. Respect to Dwight Ev.

Karl Malone, Friday, 26 August 2022 15:17 (one year ago) link

Was gonna do Dwight E. but didn’t want any confusion

Karl Malone, Friday, 26 August 2022 15:17 (one year ago) link

Full list:

1. Henderson
2. Evans
3. Murray
4. Boggs
5. Murphy
6. Yount
7. Hernandez
8. Raines
9. Schmidt
10. Randolph
11. Whitaker
12. Brett
13. Trammel
14. Ozzie
15. Baines
16. Winfield
17. Downing
18. Ripken

clemenza, Friday, 26 August 2022 15:26 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

who is the only player in the career top 10 for HRs and Doubles?

bonus: who is the only other player in the top 15 for the same categories?

Karl Malone, Saturday, 10 September 2022 17:17 (one year ago) link

bonus: who is the only other player in the top 15 for the same categories?

change to: "who are the only other two players in the top 15"

(i was manually checking for this and knew i'd fuck it up sorry)

Karl Malone, Saturday, 10 September 2022 17:19 (one year ago) link

I guessed Pujols for top 15 and Ortiz for top 15, I always remember those dudes who were ripping 45+ doubles the same season they were hitting the same number of HR. Not sure on the second top 15.

omar little, Saturday, 10 September 2022 17:38 (one year ago) link

Sorry pujols top 10!

omar little, Saturday, 10 September 2022 17:39 (one year ago) link

Aaron? Palmeiro in Top 15 for both?

clemenza, Saturday, 10 September 2022 18:09 (one year ago) link

god, i have really fucked this up, big time. i am unable to complete basic comparative tasks.

Pujols: 5th in HRs, 5th in doubles
Aaron: 2nd in HRs, 13th in doubles

I thought Ortiz made the cut, but he's at 17th for HRs, 12th in doubles
Palmeiro is a good guess! he falls short in doubles (21st) but is 13th in HRs

Karl Malone, Saturday, 10 September 2022 18:14 (one year ago) link

three weeks pass...

I can’t be bothered to frame this as trivia - but I only just now learned that Lonnie Smith once bought a gun with the intention of shooting his ex-manager!

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 1 October 2022 18:16 (one year ago) link

"Besides having a reputation as an erratic, reckless left fielder, how else did Lonnie Smith display erratic and reckless behaviour in his everyday life?"

clemenza, Saturday, 1 October 2022 19:17 (one year ago) link

“Lonnie Smith was never accused of having a gun for an arm in left field - but in what instance did he actually have a gun?”

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 1 October 2022 19:44 (one year ago) link

three months pass...

Very basic question, but I checked all five trivia threads and it's never been asked: the eight father-son combinations who were struck out by Ryan. (I got three, had one wrong, then checked--I probably would have gotten one or two of the remaining five with a little effort.)

clemenza, Monday, 16 January 2023 23:53 (one year ago) link

That’s an interesting one

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 17 January 2023 19:43 (one year ago) link

i struggle to think of 8 father-son combos, period. all the ones i can think of are the big obvious ones

bonds, griffey, alou...

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 17 January 2023 19:53 (one year ago) link

How did i forget bonds?!

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 17 January 2023 19:56 (one year ago) link

ripken!

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 17 January 2023 20:02 (one year ago) link

or wait...was there no ripken sr? i know his brother, billy (just because of his naughty bat)

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 17 January 2023 20:03 (one year ago) link

I should have mentioned that three I got were really obvious: Bonds, Griffey, and a third HOF'er. Not Alou--not on the list I found; that does seem like it might be wrong--or Ripken. I don't think Cal Sr. ever played in the majors.

clemenza, Tuesday, 17 January 2023 20:17 (one year ago) link

Boone?

omar little, Tuesday, 17 January 2023 20:45 (one year ago) link

That was one of my incorrect guesses. Of the remaining six...

One HOF'er (son)
One HOF'er (father)
One future HOF'er, probably (manager)
Two good careers (the two fathers)
One not especially notable combination (both father and son)

Pretty vague, I know. This is all according to a tweet; other sources say there are only seven in total, so this guy may have a mistake on there.

clemenza, Tuesday, 17 January 2023 21:36 (one year ago) link

one thing i'll add: one father/son combo consists of two sons. (i gave up and looked it up – three answers i would have never guess as i was not aware of the father son-ness)

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 17 January 2023 21:41 (one year ago) link

ahh ok Tito and Terry Francona for one, then.

omar little, Tuesday, 17 January 2023 22:13 (one year ago) link

Yes--I never would have gotten that in a million years.

I thought for sure the Alous, but Ryan had gone back to the AL by the time Moises broke in.

clemenza, Tuesday, 17 January 2023 22:24 (one year ago) link


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