Donald Glover's FX dramedy ATLANTA

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regarding the weird show descriptions:

Stephen "Glover wrote the episode descriptions for Atlanta’s third season. The description for “Three Slaps” reads: “Wow it’s been a minute. I mean, I like this episode about the troubled kid but we waited 50 years for this?” “I told him to write them like somebody who hates Atlanta and he was like, ‘Bet,’” Donald Glover says."

I just caught up on the last two seasons. S2 was consistently excellent and hilarious. As for S3, most of the anthology episodes have been watchable, but I didn't like this week's Van ep at all and I usually like her character. it was a strange season overall, I didn't feel like they were always playing to their strengths

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get this girl a cigarette she’s freezing

I didn't like the finale at all.

yeah I was pretty disappointed, the Drake episode that focused on Van in S2 was one of the series' best

the van/darius episode in s3 keeps floating back into my mind

i watched the first half of the Van episode and honestly idgi
Maybe the second half will explain it
maybe

Kinda does but also not really worth it

I'm not sure if I did end up getting it. Dream/fantasy sequence is the obvious answer, her Amélie-like adventure brought on by guilt over Lottie, but the transition didn't make that clear.

Damn! Italicized instead of hiding the text. Sorry.

Skarsgård’a last few lines were great

it was absolutely not a dream sequence, there wasn't even any ambiguity like there was in the edible adventure episode

anyway, i thought this episode was hilarious, one of the funniest of the season if not the funniest

for anyone wondering, my prior post about how maybe Van was going to show us how to be was definitely tongue-in-cheek. even I wasn't expecting this level of meltdown

I don't think any of it's a dream/fantasy sequence, just an ongoing state of absurdity that this season has leaned into

Read up a bit, and you're right, it's not a dream. I thought the whole thing was silly, even if it has all these artful references I just read about. I sat there the whole time thinking "this is ridiculous." And yes, I loved those other Van episodes like the Drake one.

The funniest line drop for me was Van admitting she started this Amelie shtick a few weeks ago

one thing this finale revealed is that van 100% definitely did steal that wig that the karen accused her of stealing lol

and it was likely the amelie wig

Good catch...I feel like I'm coming down too harshly on a show I've really admired. I thought about it some more, and here's the problem for me: stylistically, it's done in a broad, over-the-top manner that strongly suggests dream/fantasy. If it is for real, I think you need to tone that down quite a bit and somehow anchor it in the here and now. The celebrity cameo is not helpful in that regard.

i don't think it was particularly out of step with the heightened reality that has always existed in this show, but mileage may vary, i guess

feels a lot like satire through magic realism to me tbh

have we already forgotten the invisible car

or, say, the entirety of that teddy perkins episode

I actually have forgotten the invisible car (Teddy Perkins was one of my least favourite episodes).

Maybe I'm over-explaining something much simpler: I like the real Van a lot, and hated her as that character.

I had fun with this season but understand the frustrations many have with it.

Hopefully S4 will be more straightforward.

I loved everything about this season. It was very discomfiting, as m/l explicitly intended.

I just finished Ron Brownstein's Rock Me on the Water, about film/music/TV/Jerry Brown in early-'70s L.A., and one of the things it goes into is network interference in the early days of All in the Family/Mary Tyler Moore/MASH. I take it that such a thing barely exists these days. I'm not even talking about sex or profanity, more conceptually; it's almost inconceivable you could have a show where the three lead characters are not in four out of 10 episodes.

I don't think Atlanta's level of rule breaking would be allowed in most other places, even now. Glover(s) got special allowances from FX/Hulu.

i would guess that it's less about "allowing" 4 episodes where the main cast doesn't appear, more like "lakeith is only available for 5 episodes, zazie can do 4, brian can do 6–how can we make this work?"

these folks are busy, and this fractured approach is probably more a result of busy schedules and covid regulations than anyone on the creative team would likely admit

Hadn't considered that, but it's still something to get the go-ahead; I would think most shows would just shut down (like Mindhunter did, so yes, xposts, maybe Atlanta's the exception right now) until everyone's available.

this fractured approach is probably more a result of busy schedules and covid regulations

Yeah I figured that was the case, much like how Arrested Development S4 focused on one character at a time to accommodate busy schedules

It would be strange to hate the finale because of the surrealism, it's a show built around that. I just found the episode a lot more annoying than amusing, seems that everyone's mileage varies. I think I'd feel the same about Amelie if I watched that movie again now heh

I think they probably have a decent script backlog, and apparently all of this season (according to what I read) was written in 2019, when everyone was even more busy

It would be strange to hate the finale because of the surrealism, it's a show built around that. I just found the episode a lot more annoying than amusing

Same for me, if I've been ambiguous about that; I didn't at all object to the weirdness or surrealism, just the specific idea and the execution of it.

What was the significance of the photo in the post credits scene?

the white guy from the beginning of the season has the same name as him?

Ah, cheers

We be in the city. OFFICIAL TRAILER for #AtlantaFX: The Final Season. September 15 on FX. Stream on @Hulu. pic.twitter.com/LdxidH63oI

— AtlantaFX (@AtlantaFX) August 2, 2022

for the final season, they’re taking it back to where it all began

wait that’s still the title of the show, wtf

Can't wait!

I was pretty up-to-date with Top 40 hip-hop in 1993, so I'm surprised I have no memory at all of Paperboy's "Ditty," which I stumbled over when I started looking into the origins of the name Paper Boi--an amalgamation, I guess, of Big Boi and Paperboy. Anyway, I started down that road because of a book I'm reading on the USFL. I wanted to know if the name was maybe a reference to an obscure corner of league history having to do with Greg Fields' nickname for a couple of teammates: "The two were heading for a meeting, and Fields looked at Kraus--who was being paid $1 million over six years--and said, 'Wellllllll, fuck--there's the big paper boy!'" Fields starting calling the two teammates "the big paper boys," and he became known as Big Paper.

Maybe the 1993 Paperboy took his name from all of that.

I thought paper was a straightforward reference to money? (all about that paper, boy)

I'm looking for meaning in all the wrong places--I'm sure it's a straightforward as you say. (In which case 1993 Paperboy was at least thinking along the same lines as 1984 Greg Fields.)

great use of Cousteau in the trailer

in the us, the paperboy delivered your morning paper. in atlanta, paper boi gets that paper

Halfway between, Tony Soprano, standing at the end of his driveway.

https://phildellio.tripod.com/paper.jpg

There were/are many rappers out there named Paperboy (with various spellings, etc).

This will never not be hilarious.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1kmT_Yv3Ss