Come On Let's POLL - ILM Artist Poll #114 - BROADCAST (Polling and Lobbying Thread)

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i have 40 songs picked, and my process now is listening, going "wow i love this" and moving the song to the top of my list. repeat process 40 times.

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 15:24 (one year ago) link

Mixed is fine. You can do pretty much whatever you want in terms of waitings (to a maximum of 40 points) and ballot length (up to 40 items) OR we'll just apply generic values from 40 down to 5 as outlined at the top.

Just start with 20 points x No. of items. (eg. 800 points for 40 items.) And divide up the total however you see fit.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 15:57 (one year ago) link

Less than 72 hours… Probably not the best time to only *start* my re-listening. Dear me, forgot just how much music they made. In my head it was, like, 3 records. How have I got a pile of 10 to work through?

Jeff W, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 21:17 (one year ago) link

You can probably skip Mother Is the Milky Way tbh.

Portrait Of A Dissolvi Ng Drea M (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 21:24 (one year ago) link

Ha, no way. That could be my second favourite at the moment - just the right balance between abstract and more traditional song structures. Kinda sums up what was good about Broadcast IMO.

Jeff W, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 21:29 (one year ago) link

Listening through everything it was my least favourite release (and Witch Cults, from the same year no less, is top of my LPs list) - but sth I can see from the votes so far is that there are many different types of Broadcast fan.

Portrait Of A Dissolvi Ng Drea M (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 21:38 (one year ago) link

Mother has grown in stature for me, since the reissue. It probably didn't help that it was previously just a collection of mp3s that I downloaded and misplaced several times over lol.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 19 May 2022 00:31 (one year ago) link

"in terms of waitings (to a maximum of 40 points)"

Good lord, my brain barely works at all at 2 AM, it seems. Weightings, obv.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 19 May 2022 00:40 (one year ago) link

Any chance this could be extended through the end of the weekend?

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Thursday, 19 May 2022 01:44 (one year ago) link

I'll let CaAL express a view on that in the (UK) morning. I was trying to preserve a small buffer before possible commencement of the rollout early next week.

It's still almost 2.5 days till the end of Friday in UTC-12.* Maybe we'll see how people are going closer to that time?

* it's true, I am enjoying arbitrarily referring to a timezone with no inhabitants.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 19 May 2022 02:18 (one year ago) link

One more vote for the extension through the weekend
There's a reason every country votes on Sundays :D

Nabozo, Thursday, 19 May 2022 06:09 (one year ago) link

I am OK for an extension, would buy me a little time to make the pictures.

Portrait Of A Dissolvi Ng Drea M (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 19 May 2022 07:37 (one year ago) link

XP: B-b-but...

Okay, until 11:59pm Sunday night then! As long as every such ballot contains "Phantom" and "Ritual", obviously.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 19 May 2022 09:03 (one year ago) link

...and "Inside Out", for that matter, kthx.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 19 May 2022 09:06 (one year ago) link

Here's the Daphne Oram EP mentioned in that obituary

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1S8pDiuzJ4

piscesx, Thursday, 19 May 2022 12:41 (one year ago) link

what do your fans look like?

trish: it’s quite a mixture actually. ha ha ha. I suppose the one type I’ve come across more than any other is this short, small gay computer or website type guy. I don’t know why. I wouldn’t say they’re nerds. when I meet these people, I say “I know he’s gay and I bet he works in computers,” and it will come out and I think “how bizarre.”

This Chickfactor thing is frequently hilarious. Though y'all probably knew this decades ago.

XP: Cool!

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 19 May 2022 12:55 (one year ago) link

ha, amazing!

cf: who is the most underappreciated artist in this country?

trish: autechre. I think they’re fantastic. there’s no compromise with what they do. they’re not massive either; they’ll pull a decent crowd, like at camber sands they pulled a good crowd. the autechre fans are always boys that can’t walk properly, they’ll push your pint into you. rude, horrible boys go to autechre gigs. I always get a laugh out of it. if they wanted to do a commercial track, it would be no. 1.

Portrait Of A Dissolvi Ng Drea M (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 19 May 2022 13:14 (one year ago) link

t/s: small gay computer / website guys vs rude, horrible boys that can't walk properly

Portrait Of A Dissolvi Ng Drea M (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 19 May 2022 13:16 (one year ago) link

lol how many Neil Bullock drum solos should I include on my tracks ballot? (yes, I’ve reached 2003)

Jeff W, Thursday, 19 May 2022 16:53 (one year ago) link

It's interesting that the procession of drummers ended up being a bit hard to keep track of, for a band volunteering (in that Sean Hughes interview above) the protracted pursuit of "what bass drum sound we want, what snare sound we want" as the first reason for TNMBP taking forever to finish.

Somewhat related: I suspect them seemingly ceasing to care much about awesome-sounding drums, beyond a track or two, is a factor in Tender Buttons being the least durable LP for me.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 20 May 2022 00:39 (one year ago) link

Long voting periods are dangerous. Now I'm pondering all over again, a month later, whether the Children of Alice compilation should be on my albums ballot!!!

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 20 May 2022 01:24 (one year ago) link

Help I just listened to "Corporeal" 6 times in a row can't stop

J. Sam, Friday, 20 May 2022 01:58 (one year ago) link

I guess we're back to something like 3 days out from the (revised) deadline. So here's yet another excruciating reminder not to dilly-dally!

90 tracks have received the nod now. And things are still pretty tight on the scoreboard. eg. the present #10 is barely (the equivalent of) one first-place vote ahead of #20.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 20 May 2022 12:17 (one year ago) link

extend it to Autumn as that's when most of the tracks sound best ;)

nashwan, Friday, 20 May 2022 12:42 (one year ago) link

xps

I've been there only recently. Corporeal on repeat loudly is so addictive. Something about the drone-warmth & melodic clarity. I just don't want to leave it.

woof, Friday, 20 May 2022 13:08 (one year ago) link

It is autumn here, for few more days! :) I can report that they are indeed sounding good.

I'm not aware of any other ballots originating from the southern hemisphere yet though, 'strue. Though some 'strayans have visited the thread IIRC.

Official soundtrack, for this *bump*, btw: Arc of a Journey

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 20 May 2022 13:37 (one year ago) link

This was a lot of fun. I've been listening since mid-97, but had to write down lyric snippets in my spreadsheet to help remember what song is what--if you'd asked me to hum a bit of "Lunch Hour Pops" a month ago I'd have been stuck. When listening to Ha Ha Sound it was "ah yes the swirly one where the balloons go outside," and it's a favorite. So now I can properly ID most songs from a band I've long cherished. And I gave more attention to Berberian, Microtronics and Witch Cults than ever before. Thanks very much for doing this poll, and also for the great spreadsheet, which was very helpful.

Torei, Friday, 20 May 2022 18:54 (one year ago) link

voted!

kraudive, Friday, 20 May 2022 20:35 (one year ago) link

I received one ballot in the last few hours, which is think is Torei's. (With a special note about 'Colour Me In' -- I figure that's distinctive.) Did you definitely send yours around the time of your post, kraudive?

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 20 May 2022 22:53 (one year ago) link

The one message I had overlooked days ago had been erroneously directed to my spam folder. But not this one. Perplexing!

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Saturday, 21 May 2022 02:07 (one year ago) link

Just tried to send again.

kraudive, Saturday, 21 May 2022 11:41 (one year ago) link

Yep! Got it. Thanks. :)

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Saturday, 21 May 2022 11:44 (one year ago) link

I'm just entering a ballot which included "Winter Sun Wavelengths". Something which hadn't really occurred to me before. I recall it was ostensibly improvised but it was definitely a recurring thing in their late sets. I'm certainly not inclined to say it's ineligible!

I guess y'all have a little less than 2 days left, so you best not let it slip your mind now if you'd been working on a ballot!

Official soundtrack for this post: Microtronics 07

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Saturday, 21 May 2022 15:22 (one year ago) link

I was the one who included "Winter Sun Wavelengths". It was just so mesmerizing when I saw them on that last tour...and something I will never forget. Felt like I had to include it. Probably didn't give it quite enough points unless some other people have it on their ballot.

chewy, Saturday, 21 May 2022 19:39 (one year ago) link

Another thing I should mention in relation to late ballots: Familiar Shapes and Noises!

I didn't initially want to specify a lower limit on the minimum possible size of LPs/EPs, but I obviously ended up doing so where it actually mattered. This isn't "4 or more tracks" long, but I'm not particularly keen on excluding stuff, so it made its way into the results, somewhat inconsistently. Just in case anyone else really did want to list it but didn't, I'm happy to receive amendments. (And strongly-worded complaints about procedural sloppiness too, I guess.)

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Sunday, 22 May 2022 00:34 (one year ago) link

97 distinct tracks have received votes. We're currently nudging the 20 ballot mark. A quick check of recent polls suggests that that would put this at the TMBG or Cat Power level in terms of size of the voter pool. I actually like how a rollout would look with the current numbers, so this might even be ideal!

On the other hand, something like a dozen more people have appeared in the thread at least vaguely hinting they may vote. And up to half of ballots so far were from people I hadn't previously known were keen. So I haven't a clue what to expect.

Anyway, there's some 36 hours left!

Official soundtrack for this post: this drummer covering the drum part of Man Is Not A Bird

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Sunday, 22 May 2022 01:40 (one year ago) link

Voted Just made the results more conventional and boring

Nabozo, Sunday, 22 May 2022 10:11 (one year ago) link

(Although none of their music is either so I'm probably fine)

Nabozo, Sunday, 22 May 2022 10:13 (one year ago) link

Haha. No wrong answers innit. I seem to recall you jiggled a bunch of things around, as you'd hope.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Sunday, 22 May 2022 11:24 (one year ago) link

About this time tomorrow the weekend will be over everywhere on earth. I'll close this down then.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Sunday, 22 May 2022 12:30 (one year ago) link

Voted

Jeff W, Sunday, 22 May 2022 14:40 (one year ago) link

For anyone who is putting together a last-minute ballot and suddenly facing quite how much music is there on the big playlist, here's a list of all non-big-five (W&NW/NMBP/HHS/TB/TFC) tracks which currently have at least one vote.

Witch Cults

The Be Colony
A Quiet Moment
I See, So I See So
One Million Years Ago
Let It Begin / Oh Joy
What I Saw
Ritual / Looking In
Libra, the Mirror's Minor Self
Make My Sleep His Song
The Be Colony/Dashing Home/What on earth took you?

Familiar Shapes...

Inside Out
Tuesday's Offering

Mother Is The Milky Way

In Here The World Begins
Elegant Elephant
The Aphid Sleeps
I'm Just A Person In This Roomy Verse
Mother's Milk Means Music

Berberian Sound Studio

The Equestrian Vortex
Teresa, Lark of Ascension
Our Darkest Sabbath

Microtronics

Microtronics 04
Microtronics 05
Microtronics 07
Microtronics 12
Microtronics 19
Microtronics 20

BBC Sessions

Sixty Forty
Forget Every Time

Various

Hammer Without A Master
'What You Want' AKA Dulcimer Jam
Winter Sun Wavelengths
And I'm Gone
Eyes Open
The Liminal Space
DDL

Remixes

Avril - Be Yourself (Remixed By Broadcast)
St. Etienne - Angel (Broadcast Mix)
Badly Drawn Boy - Another Pearl (The Broadcast Remix)
Miki Furukawa - Coffee (Broadcast Remix)
The Sea And Cake - Interiors (Broadcast Remix)

Portrait Of A Dissolvi Ng Drea M (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 22 May 2022 18:10 (one year ago) link

* checks the time at Howland Island, as one does *

https://time.is/Howland_Island

About 11 hours to vote, if ya wanna.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Monday, 23 May 2022 00:57 (one year ago) link

Ballot sent, extension appreciated!

eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Monday, 23 May 2022 03:08 (one year ago) link

argh I forgot Winter Sun Wavelengths, but there are several problems with my ballot anyway

assert (matttkkkk), Monday, 23 May 2022 04:25 (one year ago) link

^ You have space and time for it, should the oversight become unbearable!

We're sitting at 22 ballots now. 108 tracks have been given points.

I already said this, but the pool is *still* just small enough for any given ballot to make a decent splash. I get a play a little side-game, watching the rise and fall of stuff over time lol.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Monday, 23 May 2022 05:14 (one year ago) link

'get TO play', rather

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Monday, 23 May 2022 05:15 (one year ago) link

ballot sent, apologies for weird formatting in my email

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, 23 May 2022 05:34 (one year ago) link

*thumbs-up emoji*

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Monday, 23 May 2022 05:38 (one year ago) link

^ You have space and time for it, should the oversight become unbearable!

I seem to have a knack for misreading you, matttkkkk! Sorry. I now see I somehow took your post as a followup from Neue Jesse Schule.

This is likely my very last excruciating 'hurry up' post. :) If anyone else was planning to submit, the next 3 hours would be great.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Monday, 23 May 2022 09:03 (one year ago) link


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