AEW 2022: The year of the bloody bunny

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totally projecting here but I am increasingly entertaining the thought that unfiltered TK has pretty shitty taste in wrestling i.e. loving all these completely tedious early 2010s indy dopes like the Undisputed Era, and that the best stuff which goes on in AEW is basically talent-driven, whether by Omega, Punk, MJF, Jericho, Danielson, Moxley, FTR, whoever

that's probably unfair but i'm feeling sour on it all tonight for some reason.

will be ponying up for DoN 22 regardless, of course. I think this Punk vs Hangman thing has legs

Windsor Davies, Thursday, 12 May 2022 22:10 (one year ago) link

I kinda agree with you. And with the (possibly kayfabe) news that MJF wants out, hopefully it makes Tony have a reassessment of how he is using his roster.

That said, I’ve barely watched any wrestling in the past 6 weeks thanks to moving my whole life/work taking all my time, so I’m not the best for judging it. Still made time for hookhausen

a hoy hoy, Friday, 13 May 2022 07:27 (one year ago) link

i really do not agree with the last few posts lol

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 13 May 2022 11:22 (one year ago) link

like how would mjf wanting out make tk think about anything? mjf gets tv time EVERY WEEK

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 13 May 2022 11:24 (one year ago) link

would say he def can’t afford to keep the roster this big tho

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 13 May 2022 11:26 (one year ago) link

I'm not at the 'get these gobshites off the television' stage but I see where you're coming from. AEW has a lot of moving pieces and I suppose it's only natural that TK would get distracted by a few at the expense of the others, but yeah they could mix it up a bit. They have a lot of time between PPVs and can afford to slow-build so you can swap people in and out of in-ring stuff while keeping the angles alive with backstage bits, video packages, etc.

wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Friday, 13 May 2022 15:26 (one year ago) link

checking out the card for tonight's Dynamite and i stand by my comments from last week. they're really focusing far too much on recent and recent-ish hires. i;m certainly not saying that they're at risk of running off talent or any of that stuff - i'm speaking purely in terms of my own enjoyment of the show.

and i don't mean to be a downer, i love the whole thing pretty much top to bottom and they still do almost everything so well. it's a miracle it even exists. just.. enough Adam Cole for a bit, please. AEW has always had the indy-to-end-all-indys vibe but recently it's veered too hard in a direction that doesnt interest me as a fan.

less NXT, Impact, ROH (or whatever) guys who have been around and wrestling each other for a decade. more joshi, more PAC, more Deeb, more Hayter, more Acclaimed. much more Miro. in fact if Miro is the joker tonight and we get him vs Joe all is forgiven.

excited for Takeshita tonight - that's a new hire that genuinely carries some intrigue

Windsor Davies, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 20:56 (one year ago) link

if the joker is Johnny Gargano i will explode with rage

Windsor Davies, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 21:15 (one year ago) link

I went to Miro's Twitter yesterday to see if he'd been tweeting much through his mysterious absence and he'd just retweeted something from Glenn Jacobs about keeping Knoxville "pro-business and pro-life" 🤮

hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 21:38 (one year ago) link

ffs

ban all wrestlers from twitter.

Windsor Davies, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 21:55 (one year ago) link

except for CM Punk. "go suck a blood money-covered dick you fucking dork" is one for the ages

Windsor Davies, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 21:56 (one year ago) link

joker reveals were both huge surprises, no one i know guessed them both

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 19 May 2022 02:41 (one year ago) link

only punk, danhausen, and nyla rose should have twitter

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 19 May 2022 02:48 (one year ago) link

hangman vs. takeshita match of the year

i'm glad tony khan knew i wanted to see more konosuke takeshita

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 19 May 2022 03:01 (one year ago) link

i appreciate that punk and hangman have yet to do a promo where they talk at each other. they've been building this up just with monologues and silent stares

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 19 May 2022 03:07 (one year ago) link

i really loved this whole episode. perfectly-paced long promo between the bcc and the jas, just the right amount of surprise and dynamism added to the owen cup by the joker selections, astonishing deeb promo, and kor vs. fenix was nearly as good as hangman vs. takeshita

is the endgame of the men's owen kor vs. cole???? have to say that i actually am fascinated with the instability of the undisputed elite

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 19 May 2022 17:59 (one year ago) link

Honestly, Brad, as much as I want Samoa Joe to take the whole thing, I would be very interested in your final two. Honestly, I've always liked KOR more, and felt like he's a much more complete performer, which almost everyone I know disagrees with, but he always looks good in the ring, and honestly, can always make his opponent look good, too.

I was definitely surprised by the Jokers, but not by the outcome of the matches.

hourspass, Thursday, 19 May 2022 21:02 (one year ago) link

Catching up with Dynamite. Great Hangman match. Serena’s promo got my excited. Lol at JE seem to be the third in the tag team match at a second pay per view in a row. Just a shame this Cole Hardy match is the “main event”.

a hoy hoy, Sunday, 22 May 2022 10:41 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6Co5Eq8ncw

so excited for this week :)

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 25 May 2022 00:07 (one year ago) link

now that cole is telegraphing kor vs. cole as the final, i believe it's gonna be joe vs. cole... and joe may go over

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 25 May 2022 00:15 (one year ago) link

i really hope you're right.

alas i am really struggling to gaf about the men's side of this tournament;
also about Adam Cole (the dirt worst and together with Johnny Gargano the surest sign that Dave Meltzer doesn't know wtf he's on about in the 2020s);
also his reDRagon buddies (Kyle O'Reilly is a good wrestler and fun in a vacuum but he's stuck orbiting this boring bullshit);
in fact really anything to do with the Undisputed Era;
2018 Bullet Club-adjacent in-group tensions;
various ROH guys;
Jeff Hardy;
John Morrison;
Big Cass;
Big Damo;
even, sadly, Samoa Joe.

stop debuting people, even for a one-off. stop pulling "surprises" out the hat. there's about 100 wrestlers (ok maybe 50) that got over to a greater or lesser extent between 2019-2021 through time, effort, good matches, good stories, good booking. i love those guys, the AEW guys. i do not want to watch 2019 NXT, 2017 Impact or re-runs of old New Japan feuds. AEW was the escape route from all of that shit, that was the whole point

Windsor Davies, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 05:16 (one year ago) link

to focus on the positives (which massively outweigh the negatives), I am wholeheartedly onboard with the Wardlow / Spears match, anything involving Ricky Starks, FTR, Toni Storm, also for Punk vs Hangman showdown.

gonna stop whinging now cause im a broken record on this stuff and i'm obviously gonna buy the PPV anyway, which I'm confident is gonna be amazing from top to bottom

what was i moaning about again?

Windsor Davies, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 05:20 (one year ago) link

I think Daddy Magic may be my favourite new wrestler. I’m a simple man.

a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 06:07 (one year ago) link

mind blowing dynamite tonight

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 26 May 2022 01:30 (one year ago) link

well except i was pretty disappointed in the women’s owen booking (and i think i have been… in general)

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 26 May 2022 01:46 (one year ago) link

wrong choice in the women's bracket again tonight i think

in the spirit of not being a purely negative presence in this thread, i have been daydreaming about Punk turning heel and winning the title from Hangman and dropping it on a big show to Eddie Kingston for the Mick Foley title run. that's probably enough wanky fantasy booking for one night.

people are gonna look back on the CM Punk comeback run as an all-time peak in pro wrestling history. Punk vs Eddie is where the money is

Windsor Davies, Saturday, 28 May 2022 01:16 (one year ago) link

"where the money is" is wrong, sloppy syntax. that match isn't a money maker (p much nothing other than Rock / Cena appearance is these days) but it'd be an aesthetic / artistic triumph and that's all that counts

Windsor Davies, Saturday, 28 May 2022 01:22 (one year ago) link

i think they know that which is why the punk/eddie conflict continues to simmer on twitter... i want it to happen but i don't want to get my hopes up

i actually predicted ruby would win tonight but then stat not only gave her best promo ever she looked like dynamite the whole match. finisher felt like it played with my feelings and echoed the (admittedly much worse) britt rollup, crowd responded accordingly

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Saturday, 28 May 2022 02:04 (one year ago) link

i actually am coming to terms with my disappointment and feel like i'm finally learning what it means to be a real wrestling fan and it's all good bc i know the ppv's gonna be bonkers good

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Saturday, 28 May 2022 02:05 (one year ago) link

it's just a bummer because the women's division is so stacked and the women's owen feels like a missed opportunity and like it's not even moving any storylines forward at this point (except for maybe ruby's established feud with britt, but who hasn't feuded with britt?)... the men's comparatively had a lot more drama and tension imo

i mean it's a moot point bc they don't even have equal tv time. i just need the world and the company to change already. i'm aware i won't get it

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Saturday, 28 May 2022 02:10 (one year ago) link

but then stat not only gave her best promo

Her in-ring has been on a higher level for a while, she’s been getting better every match since the gimmick refresh. But that promo is the first time I’ve believed in her. Before now she didn’t get it, there was no passion there. Now I feel it. More of that, please.

(And less of Britt in the Jack Sparrow shirt, eugh.)

wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Saturday, 28 May 2022 09:33 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMfvgiZqm6A

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Saturday, 28 May 2022 19:59 (one year ago) link

#AEW EXCLUSIVE: An emotional @MadKing1981 #EddieKingston vows to make @IAmJericho pay for dragging the demons back into his life, ahead of #AnarchyInTheArena THIS SUNDAY at #AEWDoN LIVE on PPV 8pm ET / 7pm CT/ 6pm MT/ 5pm PT - Available on @BleacherReport & major cable providers pic.twitter.com/iHGVyXZgSP

— All Elite Wrestling (@AEW) May 28, 2022

eddie's version of the bathroom scene from mandy afaict. incredible. greatest promo in the game

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 29 May 2022 16:38 (one year ago) link

house of black vs. death triangle is my match of the year

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 30 May 2022 02:13 (one year ago) link

the owen results: lol

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 30 May 2022 02:13 (one year ago) link

that show was awesome. it was probably the least great of the last three aew ppvs but the highs were all beyond cathartic. deeb vs. rosa was awesome, and it was so beautiful to see the two best wrestlers in the world (i'm calling it) do their thing in front of a hot crowd. page vs. punk... pure storytelling, you could see every emotion traveling in the air between them. wardlow vs. mjf was almost a wholesome feel-good opening after all the feel-bad shit mjf stirred up this weekend behind the scenes. and finally.... house of black vs. death triangle..... i'm so overwhelmed i can't even talk about it yet lol

the remainder of the matches weren't band in fact several of them were phenomenal... hardys/bucks did exactly what it needed to do and was so fun (alternately: so terrifying when jeff hardy did anything), kor vs. darby as a story feels like it came out of nowhere and then disappeared right back into nowhere but the match itself was dynamic and inventive and it made me want to see a lot more of kor solo as usual. the owen finals... both were good, eventful matches, and the results were absolute bullshit engineered to make me wanna die

the only total dud on the card was jade/anna jay, a bummer bc i love anna but they never aligned at all, i guess it's fitting bc the interference/match coda ended up being way more important than the match

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 30 May 2022 05:11 (one year ago) link

how could i forget the brawl and the tag match??? the show was too long. both were great though. not everyone is thrilled with the tag results, i sort of agree it's time for jurassic express to drop the belts but i'm undecided what direction they should go in (unless the direction is ftr, in which case i am enthusiastically for it). but i think they need to build it more and i think they think they need to build it more

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 30 May 2022 05:14 (one year ago) link

I’ve had quite a different reaction. I thought the show has been a bit sloppy, lacking a bit of direction. I think the first five minutes of the JAS-BCC should have come with 2 paracetamol, the camera direction was so sloppy and constant that you missed seemingly everything until they kinda reset the whole match. And that Tony said in the start of the main event, to paraphrase, “Hangman said this about Punk but I don’t really know what he’s on about” shows how lacklustre and confusing the build has been. sad that page went from “I’m not gonna have Bret hart masterbation matches” to… directly ripping off Bret hart at wm8

Absolutely adored Thunder Rosa - Serena Deeb and Rosa’s outfit though. My favourite ring gear in years. And I love Wardlow.

a hoy hoy, Monday, 30 May 2022 07:12 (one year ago) link

I still liked the show. I just think it’s been my least favourite AEW PPV since… idk that one where Sammy-Matt Hardy shoulda been stopped.

I skipped the Sammy match, the Darby match and the TBS title so I could watch it before work.

Death Triangle-HoB was fun. Bucks-Hardys was a bit meandering but still alright. Martha nearly put me back to sleep and the belts seem pointless. The matches were alright but I thought they could have done something more with the winners.

The main event great and hard hitting, a solid ****. Hope it builds some actual story and character coming out of it.

a hoy hoy, Monday, 30 May 2022 07:35 (one year ago) link

Some stuff that bugged me Jeff Hardy’s boot hanging off all match, making him botching everything.

Why was it 4 million matches? So much should have been left for rampage.

JR seemed to have one of his off nights. You get Rancid to play you out, so why is this guy banging on about you being a farmer?

The JE seem like the least interesting thing in any feud and I think it’s starting to become a problem. ( Ricky Starks and Hobbs need all the gold.)

Lol the medical care MJF received.

I don’t think Martha congratulated either winner by name. They just stood around looking like goons in their merchandise and underwear. I really don’t care for Cole/UE and I hope they don’t drag Baker into that.

a hoy hoy, Monday, 30 May 2022 08:16 (one year ago) link

the hangman punk build was great! i don’t understand

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 30 May 2022 13:56 (one year ago) link

“Hangman said this about Punk but I don’t really know what he’s on about”

tony said that because no one believes either hangman or eddie when they say they know the real punk. it makes sense!

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 30 May 2022 13:57 (one year ago) link

I don’t think Martha congratulated either winner by name.

this is good actually bc i didn’t want to think about who won at all. besides it wasn’t about them

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 30 May 2022 14:03 (one year ago) link

idk if i can spoiler tag an image so i'm just gonna hope everyone who hasn't seen the ppv is avoiding this thread like the plague

https://i.imgur.com/tgitWUj.jpg

my new favorite wrestler julia hart

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 30 May 2022 14:09 (one year ago) link

the hookhausen match in the buy-in was so good too, prob my motn after house of black, rosa/deeb, and hangman/punk. they should've put it in the actual program

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 30 May 2022 14:21 (one year ago) link

(and removed one of the other matches)

(honestly the tnt belt match was about as good as it could've been and i'm thrilled kazarian threw sammy and tay under the bus bc they're insufferable)

(so maybe the no-build darby/kor even though i'd hate to throw away a match that good) (it's certainly a rampage matchup tho)

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 30 May 2022 14:23 (one year ago) link

Sorry I messed my spoiler tags upthread, it should have been all of my ppv thoughts, not just the first sentece.

a hoy hoy, Monday, 30 May 2022 16:14 (one year ago) link

Wtf is going on with MJF

Years to run on his contract. Even the threat of no showing such a major event seems like a bizarre thing to do. I guess it’s possible for him to row back from here but it seems as though he may have really torpedoed all the good will there was towards him among fans and you couldn’t blame TK if he doesn’t trust him in important spots from now on

Speaking of TK, that post-show presser….woof

Windsor Davies, Monday, 30 May 2022 16:14 (one year ago) link

lol i'm still pretty upset with mjf and i'm glad i got to see him get powerbombed ten times :)

just silly diva shit imo. afaict the issue is that he wants to get paid more (fair i guess, he's amazing, though the payscales in wrestling seem super fucked up to me lol) without signing an extension, but there's no reason for aew to invest in him if he's also not investing in them

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 30 May 2022 16:20 (one year ago) link

tk going off on one of the five wrestling journalists left in the industry was idk pretty hilarious to me, i didn't even understand what it was about

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 30 May 2022 16:28 (one year ago) link


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