Exile on Main St.

"Lovin' Cup" was Let It Bleed-era too--Stanley Booth mentioned they ran through it at Muscle Shoals (but didn't record it)--and supposedly "Shine A Light" was started back in '67.

― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, May 10, 2022 9:29 PM

Very true, but I didn't mention those two as the versions on Exile were done later at Olympic/Nellcote, whereas Let it Loose is apparently the same recording from back then.

“Torn and Frayed” is pivotal (to Exile, to the Stones, to the ‘70s).

And the filler on Exile is no more filler than that of the white album. It’s not filler (at least, not in the sense that, say, 1/4th of Tales From Topographic Oceans is) (by design, as Atlantic told Yes they wouldn’t release a 3-sided album); to paraphrase Kirk Hammet (‘s take on the uneven-at-best 2112), it’s all part of the journey.

plug in, flush out and fire the fuckin' feed

having just listened to torn and frayed i can only suspect that mig is secretly LJ, who is legendary for his horrible taste

I never ever understand people who want to trim double albums. Indulgence -- wading around -- is the point.

Songs I could live with losing from the album are Stop Breaking Down and Soul Survivor. If I had to take out more, maybe Shake Your Hips and Turd on the Run as well, but that's pushing it.

― Lily Dale, T

Love the latter: a masterpiece without exertion. Will keep "Stop..." on the strength of Jagger's electric rhythm work, which will get more prominent on later albums.

xp nominate this for an Alfred Tenet

can 100% understand thought experiments about removing rocky raccoon and honey pie from the white album listening experience - especially in pre-CD era

there are definite weaker moments but looking at the tracklist total that's no slight. i could never have a version of this album where "ventilator blues" didn't go into "i just want to see his face."

I never ever understand people who want to trim double albums. Indulgence -- wading around -- is the point.

a million times this

xp nominate this for an Alfred Tenet

― mookieproof,

is there a private list

"Stop Breaking Down" would be the worst song on a Foghat record. I wonder if Jagger wanted it on the record as a sign they could play without Keith, but this wasn't a very persuasive example.

The only Rolling Stones album with no skippable tracks for me is Beggars Banquet, and I'm being indulgent towards "Salt of the Earth".

ah ! Beggars is their "imperial" era album that I like the least.
As for Exile, yeah, difficult to cut it down to a single album without losing A LOT of its strength.
There's not a track I dislike.
By far my favourite album of theirs.

FTR, I agree with y’all, but this assignment / thought experiment was specific (Let’s say it’s 1972, and you’re the label rep…).

eheh ok. But then would you rather ruin a work of art for the future generations... or be fired as a label rep ! ;)
anyway, if some tracks HAD to be cut, among the "big" ones, I must say I was never as fond of "All Down The Line" as many people are (I like it and get how catchy/effective it is of course).

I wonder if Jagger wanted it on the record as a sign they could play without Keith

I'd argue that "Sway" and "Moonlight Mile" already answered that question definitively in the affirmative.

sitting here playing around with a playlist of all the tracks, making a sort of Rust Never Sleeps acoustic-to-electric, ballad-to-boogie build of an album.

and "Sway" and "Moonlight Mile" rank among Jagger's best performances in every dept.

i usually cut off my listen after "shine a light" because it would've been such a perfect closer. "soul survivor" is fine though. "stop breaking down" is fun but def a bottom tier rocker on the album.

soul survivor is one of those album closers that’s like.. when the credits roll at the end of a movie

I don’t necessarily buy the conventional wisdom that most double albums have filler.. I mean, I think this album is pretty consistent, idk!

"Stop Breaking Down" is great.

Yeah I always thought of "shine a light" as the last song of the album (and one of my all time favourites)... then "soul survivor" as the credit roll track !

“Knives Out” did a pretty good job of convincing me “Sweet Virginia” could’ve been an album closer.

i stumbled across this a couple of months ago. amateur footage of a 1973 show in australia, and the sound is basically excellent (apart from the beginning)

here's "happy"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYJCCSlvH80

the middle stretch of this album is my favorite (casino boogie to i just want to see his face) but no way i could trim it to a single lp. i know this is madness to everyone else but i still find "let it loose" a slog, i could lose that and maybe "stop breaking down" though it's really great, one of the hardest songs on the album. maybe maybe maybe i could lose "rocks off" and "rip this joint" but that's approaching insanity / controps.

no-way-can-it-be-removed songs for me are "casino boogie" "tumbling dice" "sweet virginia" "loving cup" "ventilator blues" "happy" "shine a light" and "soul survivor"

i know this is madness to everyone else but i still find "let it loose" a slog

map, come sit beside me.

My don't-fuck-with-me-boys keeper: "Casino Boogie," whose casual, muddy groove and outro and Keef high harmonies personify what I love about this era of Stones. Also Jagger's 5x7 card lyrics.

judge and jury walk out
hand in hand

OPEN FOH BIDNESS

i stumbled across this a couple of months ago. amateur footage of a 1973 show in australia, and the sound is basically excellent (apart from the beginning)

here's "happy"

― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, May 11, 2022 5:29 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

That's my channel, I synced up the soundboard audio to the footage shot by Deniz Tek - super nice guy and great foresight for bringing his super8 camera, haha.

ahh!! did you post this before on ilx?! or is this just a very fortunate happenstance??

It got posted a few months ago on some Stones thread. Either C/D or Goats Head Soup?

Keith's backup on Casino Boogie is one of my favorite moments of his, every time I hear I am reminded of 90s Memphis rocker Lorette Velvette (produced by Alex Chilton)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-TjPoNOMpc

Lorette Velvette now there’s a name I hadn’t thought about in 20+ years


Im a big Let it Loose stan but it does benefit mightily from the LA overdubs

"Let It Loose" is an absolute masterclass but I could understand dumping that or others from this for a single LP. it would've only benefited goats head soup or the subsequent albums.

The sunlight bores the daylights out of me

Sunshine ?

sunshine

my fave line

True tho

Documentary on "Exile on Main Street" gets off to a great start with Don Was claiming the album was recorded at the same time as Coppola was shooting "Apocalypse Now" - fyi Don the Vietnam War hadn't even finished yet. Then Keith claims the British government were out to get them because they were too powerful and that's why they had to leave the UK - it wasn't just about the tax dontcha know?

I surely must have misheard that Don Was quote, they couldn't possibly leave such a howler in the film could I? Mind you it was followed shortly after a brief clip of Jack White asking when it was recorded.

He must have mixed up Apocalypse Now with The Godfather

Possibly, he was making some bullshit point or other which wouldn't have worked with The Godfather.

don was not correct

lol these movies are for me very "I want to hear about what you're talking about but i really don't want the myth version you're going to hammer me over the head with for ninety minutes." at what point in this one does Dave Grohl appear

“Rip this joint blah blah blah”

This had the talking heads at the start at the end and, thankfully, not very much of them at all. 95% was footage and photos from the recording sessions with the Stones and associates doing voiceovers. Opening up with Don Was placing "Apocalypse Now" in 1971 and then showing Jack White not knowing when the album was recorded suggests they were taking the piss out of "classic album docu" conventions tbh. At least I like to think so.

at what point in this one does Dave Grohl appear

Same question as applied to Johnny Depp and Dick Cavett.

I thought c******* blues was the exile doc

There's another, "Official" one called Stones In Exile that accompanied the expanded reissue of the album back in 2010. I imagine this is the one being discussed? It includes some footage from CSB.