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Season 3 was fucking awful and yet I want to see if they can redeem themselves

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 10 May 2022 21:21 (one year ago) link

I expressed somewhat positive thoughts halfway through season 3 upthread, but by the end, even I wasn't really enjoying it. It's become such a dumb show. I'm surprised they renewed for S4 after S3 was universally hated but maybe they made the decision early

Vinnie, Tuesday, 10 May 2022 23:31 (one year ago) link

This show was terrible, a more expensive version of some random SyFy series shot in Vancouver, but what kept me watching is the bizarre way the show clearly thinks of itself as good, and in some ways it instantiates the themes it clumsily keeps expositing; it is an artificial product built to provide cheap, repetitive pleasures that is slowly coming to concede it is not the real thing

― Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, December 28, 2020 10:00 PM (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

I stand by this judgment as an explanation of why I sat through all of the dire s3 and will do it again for s4

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 11 May 2022 01:33 (one year ago) link

^^^

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 11 May 2022 02:14 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

Anyone still watching?

First episode was..ok?

And possibly all in the same timeline? Although I guess 'Christina's' world could be distinct?

groovypanda, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 20:16 (one year ago) link

I thought it was a decent first episode. I've pretty much completely forgotten what happened last season and I'm sure that's probably for the best.

From what I could tell, it's same timeline, 8 years down the road, and confirmed in an article that ERW is now playing a completely new character unconnected to Dolores (or at least that's what they are telling the press at this point)

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 28 June 2022 20:18 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

It’s getting really good. It’s such a relief to not regret sticking around for this season.

I would love a webisode where they show us what Stubbs did to kill time while waiting for X years while waiting for Bernard to wake up. Maybe a montage of Stubbs playing solitaire, doing push-ups, battling raiders, reading “War & Peace,” etc.

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 18 July 2022 13:27 (one year ago) link

Are there enough people watching this to care about spoiler tags here?

mh, Monday, 18 July 2022 14:31 (one year ago) link

I was wondering the same! I like this has gotten agreeably weird and I've given myself permission -- the show seems to have given me permission -- to not really care who anyone actually "is" at this point or what they're doing, it's all vibes

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 19 July 2022 04:04 (one year ago) link

I haven't watched any of this season and don't know if I will but I feel that's the logical path for the show to take after the last season, where motivations for actions were impossible to decipher. I started enjoying the Hannibal TV show much more when it was obvious it wasn't going to make logical sense

Vinnie, Tuesday, 19 July 2022 05:55 (one year ago) link

Deep cut for the LOST heads:

Remember that show, and the character Michael who had such classic lines as "where's my boy?" and "WAAAAALT" and "I need to find my son!" (good lord did the writers do him dirty)

Well, in this show, Caleb is constantly worried about his wife and daughter. That daughter, in the many years later timeline, is played by Aurora Perrineau, the daughter of Harold Perrineau, who played Michael on LOST.

mh, Tuesday, 19 July 2022 13:48 (one year ago) link

three weeks pass...

Such pretentious dreck! It is not even, exactly, a TV show at this point. Just a canvas against which familiar actors wander around trying to get their mouths around terrible lines and pronouncing them in ways that doesn't even sound like English as spoken by humans. Which I guess it is mostly in fact not supposed to be. I really have a sensation that they made a show for no one to watch for algorithmic reasons I can't understand.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 15 August 2022 03:25 (one year ago) link

that season finale was uh, not good

mh, Monday, 15 August 2022 12:48 (one year ago) link

I’m not even gonna try to defend last night’s episode.

Kinda hoping Season 5 doesn’t happen after that, I’ve had enough.

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 15 August 2022 20:44 (one year ago) link

i stopped after season 3 and was considering going back, this news is making me reconsider

akm, Monday, 15 August 2022 22:26 (one year ago) link

Felt like an end but most media outlets seem to think there'll be one more final season xp

groovypanda, Tuesday, 16 August 2022 07:33 (one year ago) link

i stopped watching in s1 did they fuck any robots yet

kurt schwitterz, Tuesday, 16 August 2022 07:51 (one year ago) link

yeah does seem to like itself a bit much dunnit.
But i did get through to the end.
Looks like Tessa Thompson had the right idea. & elegantly crushing one's own memory ball might be teh correct response to the prospect of another series.
But maybe they need to explain this one

Stevolende, Tuesday, 16 August 2022 08:28 (one year ago) link

I mean, if they do another season I’ll watch it with low expectations.

It would be cool if a noted author wrote a novelization of the whole series, fixing the various narrative problems and making it better, deeper, more fleshed out.

The whole concept is interesting, but it’s just so clunky and ridiculous in execution and ins and outs - a blockbuster, prestige cable series as envisioned by philosophers, theologians, set designers, stylists, executives, and effects people.

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 16 August 2022 11:46 (one year ago) link

They needed someone in the writer’s room, a veteran of other shows, to be kind of an audience advocate and tell out, “hey, what the fuuuuuck” and head off some basic narrative bullshit that this show happily wandered through routinely.

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 16 August 2022 11:48 (one year ago) link

A lot of my fascination with WW after the great S1 has been wondering how it has continued to exist at all.

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 16 August 2022 11:49 (one year ago) link

There were a lot of things I found interesting about this season, and I might have been more harsh on the ending than necessary, but overall it was kind of a mess and the leaving a bunch of plot threads to the finale was probably not the best choice.

mh, Tuesday, 16 August 2022 14:34 (one year ago) link

This season has been a roller coaster and I haven't even watched it yet - just read people's reactions

Vinnie, Wednesday, 17 August 2022 08:58 (one year ago) link

Did end up watching season 4, half because of the more positive reactions to the earlier episodes, half out of curiosity. Liked it more than I thought I would, my favorite season since the first. Found it much easier to understand what characters were trying to do and why than before, and it had a better-plotted story than the last season. Same strengths as before too: cool visuals/vibe/ideas even if they don't cohere. Decent series finale if it doesn't get another season. Lisa Joy is trying to push for the next one being the last tho

Vinnie, Tuesday, 30 August 2022 05:36 (one year ago) link

I liked how the end of this season went full anime. It got so bad that it wrapped around to good again.

This season, the characters repeated a few old catchphrases but otherwise everyone was playing a new character.

formerly abanana (dat), Saturday, 10 September 2022 20:20 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

I didn’t even realize they’d done a 4th season

Maybe for the best, good chance it'd just be another half-baked season

Vinnie, Saturday, 5 November 2022 02:47 (one year ago) link

is there any reason to watch the last season of this?

akm, Saturday, 5 November 2022 18:28 (one year ago) link

Not really. Started out ok but got progressively worse as it went on.

groovypanda, Saturday, 5 November 2022 18:47 (one year ago) link

seven months pass...

^^ otm

Was considering a rewatch of the first season but, uh, apparently Max also wiped this show.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 29 June 2023 17:06 (nine months ago) link

I can't remember another show that started out so highly regarded and crashed so spectacularly.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 29 June 2023 17:46 (nine months ago) link

I have season one on DVD, which, you know … that’s the best season.

(Season two has moments.)

jimbeaux OTM

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 29 June 2023 18:28 (nine months ago) link

Jon, check your local library.

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 29 June 2023 18:31 (nine months ago) link

The last season of this kind of feels like it was a dream I had

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 30 June 2023 04:05 (nine months ago) link

Last season would have been great to close out the series if they had a more cohesive and concise plot structure and tied up all the loose ends, but alas. Another show getting dragged well past its plot due date that can't compensate for the intrigue and mystery of season 1 once the scope expands. Season 2 felt like it dragged and so did season 3. Could have been so much better.

Here's hoping Severence doesn't fall into the same trap!

octobeard, Friday, 30 June 2023 20:53 (nine months ago) link


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