"If you can smoke and drink while doing it, it's not a sport" - a thread for BOSCH

his fedora-guy sidekick isnt doing it for me, where is cheech marin when u need him

idk i kinda like his vibe but he is a bit "low energy"

i'm only two in maybe i'll warm to him, he seems a bit pre-formed

he rings sort of true in a weird la way to me

haha that could also be entirely true

William Devane! One of the first 'character' actors who ever made an impression on me as the villain in Hitchcock's Family Plot, which I saw at the cinema when I was ten or so. Great to hear he's still working.

he's looking great for 82!

we get a little crate and barrel cameo in s4, as a treat

the credit sequences sucks as badly the as the song, the old one was so good :(

lol at maddie actuallying her dad on latin pronunciation, yeah, neither of you are close

Bosch starting to lecture Jerry on going too far… c’mon, man

*rescreening* S7 now because i don't remember anything about the new season bad guy and his connection to the failed hit on Money Chandler. Streaming/binging habits are bad for short term memories. Also, William Devane post-Kennedy career to me is his turn on 24 as Sec of Defense/POTUS/Dementia patient, 24 is also the last series i went this deep into late seasons. hmmmmmm.....

he's pretty shadowy in s7!

they recast the role of Rogers for this season, that's part of the wtf (actually it's just me and my senility)

Watching the S7 recap at the start of "Legacy". There are characters called Franzen, Chandler and... Carl Rogers?

"Carl Rogers, you're under arrest", an actual line of dialogue

https://www.oshonews.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Carl-Rogers.jpg

I'm reading Connelly's second Jack McEvoy novel The Scarecrow (2009) right now. The first was The Poet (1996), one of Connelly's most memorable books. He has said he doesn't love delving into McEvoy because "he is easily the most autobiographical character I have ever written about"

McEvoy is an investigative journalist and also appears in the Bosch/McCaleb novel A Darkness More Than Night (2001) and along with Bosch in the Mickey Haller novel The Brass Verdict (2008). Connelly also wrote a third novel featuring him in Fair Warning (2020), which I haven't read yet

lol finished rewatching s7 and i still don't really understand the underpinning of the new season plot but i'll just assume it's a The Big Sleep thing here it's best not to try to make the puzzle make sense and just enjoy the ride

it does feel big-sleepy! needs more orchids in a hothouse to make bosch sweat uneasily

i'd love more flirty scenes a la Dorothy Malone's bookstore clerk and the horny female cab driver but Bosch is way too leathery and stolid to pull that off. that's why i would love a Santiago spinoff with him and the punky bartender getting some real screentime.

has there ever been a good or interesting take on the russian gangster as the new mafia concept ?

(this version is bad and boring) (og law and order had some entertaining characters now and then i guess in the 00s, this doesn't have that either)

the procedural drama in the o/g series was hardly sparkling or boldly original but legacy REALLY misses it: hours of the newly minted PI and his high-end lawyer foe-chum tippytoeing round warehouses and whatnot to catch the crims at it is NO SUBSTITUTE AT ALL

also where is maddy this ep, i dont even love her sections but

Watched the first episode and it definitely feels like a cheap knockoff of the original. Don't give a fuck about Maddie's police training; there's already a whole procedural about that on network tv — it's called The Rookie and it's dull as shit, too. Bosch without a badge is just an old crank, and honestly I don't think the show has the budget to actually film his house sliding down the hill by season's end so I suspect that's just a distraction. Willam Devane in his wheelchair looks kind of amazingly like John McCain.

lol baby bosch is in this flashback ep and he's a belligerent prick

(good casting tho tbh)

show frantic to have it both ways re bad-apple cops and not in a deft or an interesting way really

So if enjoyed Bosch non-legacy version but don't really care about the Bosch extended universe, should I put legacy in my viewing queue? most comments ITT are on the negative side...

not really feeling it adds anything tbh

i will watch the series out probably bcz who wants to be left hanging but

its bad and the theme song is bad

ima still watch it tho

TY. Think I’ll spend my limited TV time elsewhere and enjoy the memories from the original series.

watching bosch: legacy sandwiched between la reina del sur s2 and better call saul (with ulvede on the news) is not doing bosch: legacy any favours at all

i mean uvalde

wow waterboarder war criminal bosch flashback was unexpected, so many bad decisions in this show

Haven't watched the streaming show yet, but I've been listening to the books in order and have gotten up to the 17th Harry Bosch novel, The Burning Room.

It is the first one read by Titus Welliver. I don't know how he is as an actor, maybe ok, but as a narrator he is an incredible bore. It really puts a damper on the whole series

I want to like the remaining 7 novels. It's a reminder to me how important the narrator is with audiobooks

xpost I really liked Welliver as Bosch in the TV series.

he's very watchable but it's kind of a recessive minimalism with the other more expressive characters as foils: i can easily see it getting tiresome when he does everyone else and the narration

Bosch going full on Jack Bauer (sort of) out of nowhere not a great shift for the series

yeah this series is dumb and bad

did we already know he was a vet? i dont remember anything abt it on the show (i haven't read the books)

yeah that’s why I qualified slightly
They did reference his special forces background in Iraq and Afghanistan (how he took out the S3 baddie and how he was a credible vet junkie in S6) but still …..

Sad to hear this isn’t good. Not even sure I’m gonna give it a shot. Might just leave things be and enjoy my mems of the og series.

I think the loss of the great supporting cast is what hurts it the most + really can’t stand that phoney “jazz cat” Mo (urgh)

In the earlier iteration of the show I’d hope the goes Bauer scene would be a set-up for reflecting on what his time in special ops did for his sense of why he became a cop, why being a PI is a better fit for his moral crusade, but that bit about red tape or whatever and Maddie pondering what it means to be a “good cop” in just about every scene, in parallel with Chandler basically being cool with having a guy murdered despite having some bad dreams…sigh

His military background is all over the original series.

lol is it? lucky for me there isn't a test i guess

the dumbest thing for me in this season is how utterly pointless and perfunctory the J Edgar cameo is. The Crate and Barrel scenes at least had a tiny bit of the old flair.

Watched the first one last night, it's hard to pin down exactly what's wrong - everything's just a bit off. When Bosch is talking to the coroner buddy, his manner is wrong and there's this real ugly shot and reverse at the end. Bosch was always AMC basic cable but this is more USA Network.

Maddie is... not a good actor?

She should have gone to law school and the show picks up with her just passing the bar and working as a lawyer under Mimi Rogers, that's more believable than cop.

Early USA Network at that

Yeah she basically has a few modes and they are not suited to expressing very much (although I guess I’m holding out hope that her main mode, the indignant one, will strengthen her arc as it currently just feels like an awkward fit which could be fun to explore)