"we'll change the things that need changing and that's all we'll change": the paSUKification of post-brexit politics 2021

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"ambushing him at his allotment at the weekend"

the pinefox, Thursday, 5 May 2022 11:19 (one year ago) link

oh, mac! mac! what have you done?
you shooted dead great jamsbly crebubble!
you hid behind an allotment thistle
and shot him with your old hoss-pistol!

mark s, Thursday, 5 May 2022 11:35 (one year ago) link

Yep, I’m not sure SF are getting any more popular, per se, but the DUP seem to be losing voters to Alliance.


It’s less Alliance than TUV. The DUP aren’t extreme enough for some voters anymore and if that’s true then things will get worse before they get better.

Also, the Tory vote in 2019 barely increased from 17; it was Labour’s that plummeted, but that didn’t stop anyone carrying on about wOrSt ReSuLt SiNcE 1935 so I feel comfortable applying the same logic here.

gyac, Thursday, 5 May 2022 11:43 (one year ago) link

This excellent thread tells you everything you need to know:

The Alliance Party represents the most oppressed classes in N.I. politics: exasperated civil servants who call themselves "small c conservatives" and Belfast NGO executives. As a centrist party, its role is to find new ways to say the persecuters and persecuted are equally bad.

— saoirse gg 🏳️‍⚧️⚢📉 (@saoirsegowan) May 4, 2022



And ofc

Sinn Féin is a party of terrorists. The party's representatives fundamentally believe in a 32 county terrorist republic, with a national terror service (free at the point of use), a strong terror welfare state, building terror housing, separation of church and terror, etc.

— saoirse gg 🏳️‍⚧️⚢📉 (@saoirsegowan) May 4, 2022

gyac, Thursday, 5 May 2022 11:45 (one year ago) link

poor Jeremy, ambushed on sacred ground whilst tending to his marrows! McD is not looking like a good person, an egotist and making shit decisions just as a power move. Corbyn makes mistakes but there is never any question about his integrity, innate decency etc, if anything I admire him more now than I did at the time.

calzino, Thursday, 5 May 2022 11:51 (one year ago) link

None of them were good in lots of ways. That it's all we had says everything.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 5 May 2022 13:03 (one year ago) link

Wondering what a successful leftist parliamentary party needs. Obviously you need your reign of terror types, the nice fellas who don’t scare the horses, the flesh presser, the ideas crew, who else? And could a hypothetical combo be formed from regular contributors to this thread? Calz and I on Robespierre duty ofc.

gyac, Thursday, 5 May 2022 13:15 (one year ago) link

Xyzzzz__ fancies himself in that group but he’s more a nice fella.

Imago - (more than token) posho

gyac, Thursday, 5 May 2022 13:16 (one year ago) link

I think most people (including the left-wing ones) that get into a career in party politics tend to be absolute wankers, but 2015-19 was such a stark difference from the PLP of my entire adult life, that I became a bit invested in some of these people. A lot of delusion and projection is required to like any of these ppl, I guess.

calzino, Thursday, 5 May 2022 13:18 (one year ago) link

Robespierre was a melt compared to some if his colleagues btw.

Was Hitler a Hobbit? (Tom D.), Thursday, 5 May 2022 13:22 (one year ago) link

"Wondering what a successful leftist parliamentary party needs"

It would require a leader who would never be allowed to become a Labour councillor/MP or even get past the party membership screening process. Someone with absolutely zero "Labour values".

calzino, Thursday, 5 May 2022 13:26 (one year ago) link

Robespierre was a melt compared to some if his colleagues btw.


There’s a reason I didn’t put myself in the intellectual category!

gyac, Thursday, 5 May 2022 13:27 (one year ago) link

The time for parties and parliaments that provide a single set of solutions for all is way gone. Sunak, for example, is completely unconcerned by the current crisis to govern or solve anything. And he only finds himself in the position of chancellor.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 5 May 2022 13:28 (one year ago) link

bagsy me st juste, then i can execute imago and comrade alph on the same scaffold (as me, the next day)

mark s, Thursday, 5 May 2022 13:31 (one year ago) link

No violence now, let's play nice

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 5 May 2022 13:31 (one year ago) link

are you mad because you’re not on the reign of terror crew?

gyac, Thursday, 5 May 2022 13:34 (one year ago) link

me sitting at the summit of The Mountain, so high up that my gold top hat touches the ceiling: "virtue without terror is fatal"

mark s, Thursday, 5 May 2022 13:35 (one year ago) link

Nobody is mad. I am at peace.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 5 May 2022 13:36 (one year ago) link

Except when imago posts.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 5 May 2022 13:36 (one year ago) link

Job done. pic.twitter.com/j6t7PxNwJn

— bawbagstauner (@bawbagstauner) May 5, 2022

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 5 May 2022 13:44 (one year ago) link

George Galloway has voted, I see.

Was Hitler a Hobbit? (Tom D.), Thursday, 5 May 2022 13:54 (one year ago) link

Some places barely have any kind of candidate as some of the responses here show.

Torn between just not bothering & voting for the one Green candidate standing in my ward. I’d vote Labour in places where there are councillors offering something locally, but that very much isn’t the case here.

— Tom Gann (@Tom_Gann) May 5, 2022

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 5 May 2022 14:17 (one year ago) link

Vote Tory = more...
taxes
regulation
shit bureaucracy
violent/sex crime
neglect of security/armed forces
A&E disasters / NHS neglect
chance of nuclear war
... while idiots babbling about trans & other shite get promoted all over sw1 #RegimeChange

— Dominic Cummings (@Dominic2306) May 5, 2022

No matter how many times I see Dominic Cummings lash out at the government, it always feels like I've accidentally skipped forward a season on Netflix.

Alba, Thursday, 5 May 2022 14:36 (one year ago) link

poll

very interesting piece by (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 5 May 2022 15:11 (one year ago) link

Feels like there needs to be a cartoon of ppl angrily spoiling their ballots with spunking cocks, then in the last frame a spunking cock in a suit is waving at crowds, about to enter 10 Downing St

very interesting piece by (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 5 May 2022 15:13 (one year ago) link

In fact, that probably exists in some form

very interesting piece by (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 5 May 2022 15:14 (one year ago) link

My local area didn't have a Green candidate in the end :(

You don't need to know the rest, but you'd best get cracking with that scaffold

imago, Thursday, 5 May 2022 15:14 (one year ago) link

At least when I'm living in North London in three days there'll be a guaranteed supply of Green candidates eh!

imago, Thursday, 5 May 2022 15:16 (one year ago) link

dj martian should sue domcum for plagiarism

calzino, Thursday, 5 May 2022 15:18 (one year ago) link

Look, has anybody ever seen them both together?

Number One shlong in Devon (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 5 May 2022 15:20 (one year ago) link

PLANK Bojo risks nuclear war!

imago, Thursday, 5 May 2022 15:20 (one year ago) link

Get Nuclear Annihilation Done

Was Hitler a Hobbit? (Tom D.), Thursday, 5 May 2022 15:22 (one year ago) link

Well well well if it isn't the consequences of my own etc

very interesting piece by (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 5 May 2022 15:25 (one year ago) link

At least when I'm living in North London in three days there'll be a guaranteed supply of Green candidates eh!


What the fuck? North London has fallen!

(Where though?)

gyac, Thursday, 5 May 2022 15:33 (one year ago) link

we are all easily wound up at present and i can forgive this online unkindness but really i draw a red line at voting labour when it would clearly make a tory seat more rather than less likely. it is impossible to falsify polls by that much surely. if you can show me a recent finchley poll where the labour vote hasn't (unfairly) tanked then fictional finchley lj will recant and apologise

― imago, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 12:48 (two years ago) bookmarkflaglink

*nervous laughter*

― imago, Thursday, 28 April 2022 12:06 (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink

imago, Thursday, 5 May 2022 15:35 (one year ago) link

Was perusing that S Vessey article about Barnet Council with particular interest...

imago, Thursday, 5 May 2022 15:37 (one year ago) link

lol I didn’t see either incident! Thatcher country!

gyac, Thursday, 5 May 2022 15:48 (one year ago) link

blimey, escalating rents and hyper-gentrification is really getting out of hand when even millionaires are getting squeezed out of SE10 :p

calzino, Thursday, 5 May 2022 16:26 (one year ago) link

my official period of rent here in SE7 ends the day after Crossrail finally opens in Woolwich, lol

imago, Thursday, 5 May 2022 17:34 (one year ago) link

3 out of 4 bald. Neil looks like someone let the air out of Gapesy these days https://t.co/MOmEeRQHpy

— PolProf Wariotifo (@wariotifo) May 5, 2022

the latest baldiacs podcast with Kinnock the elder: "I think that Keir was probably born mature." 😂 all I can think of is childish + immature responses to that!

calzino, Thursday, 5 May 2022 17:42 (one year ago) link

Kinnock looks ok for 80, dinno what those other two wastemans excuse is

very interesting piece by (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 5 May 2022 20:09 (one year ago) link

I have heard tell of there being a painting in Lynskey's attic

hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Thursday, 5 May 2022 20:20 (one year ago) link

Ah yes, the painting of a really clever, interesting guy lol

very interesting piece by (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 5 May 2022 20:29 (one year ago) link

pic.twitter.com/AwJxqLNuFw

— ਜੀਵਨ ਰਾਏ🔻 (@jeevanrai) May 5, 2022

the thin blue lying (suzy), Thursday, 5 May 2022 20:29 (one year ago) link

"Kinnock looks ok for 80, dinno what those other two wastemans excuse is"

Blood from human babies makes brains of elderly mice young again

tbf Kinnock is that obscenely rich he can afford the good baby plasma!

calzino, Thursday, 5 May 2022 21:31 (one year ago) link

Anneliese Dodds saying Labour “never expected big gains” but results “will show the progress we have made under Keir’s leadership”. As Starmer said months ago, Labour will want people to compare these results to the 2019 general election rather than the 2018 locals.

— Sienna Rodgers (@siennamarla) May 5, 2022

hoping they’ve fucked it

gyac, Thursday, 5 May 2022 21:49 (one year ago) link

yeah I always compare local council election results with general election results, just completely the same thing really, apart from everything.

calzino, Thursday, 5 May 2022 21:57 (one year ago) link

Lab are going to use gains in *checks notes* cities to show that they are making progress.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 6 May 2022 07:34 (one year ago) link

if you did trend lines for wandsworth etc over the last 20 years i’d be pretty surprised if labour outperformed the trend

feels like the uk is winding up where the US has been for some time, with the ostensibly centre-left party representing urban voters and the conservatives everybody else

Tracer Hand, Friday, 6 May 2022 07:56 (one year ago) link

weird, I thought the metropolitan elite were thoroughly discarded by this shower. Good enough to use their votes, as always!

gyac, Friday, 6 May 2022 07:57 (one year ago) link


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