A Thread about the film JFK

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Knows phil-lo-so-fee.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 2 May 2022 18:20 (two years ago) link

Conspiracy theorists consider four or five groups, alone or in combination, to be the primary suspects in the assassination of Kennedy: the CIA,[313][314] the military-industrial complex,[313][314] organized crime,[313][314][315] the government of Cuba led by Fidel Castro,[314][315][316] and Cuban exiles.[314] Other domestic individuals, groups, or organizations implicated in various conspiracy theories include Lyndon Johnson,[316][314][315] George H. W. Bush,[314][315] Sam Giancana,[316] Carlos Marcello,[317] J. Edgar Hoover,[315] Earl Warren,[316] the Federal Bureau of Investigation,[314] the United States Secret Service,[314][315] the John Birch Society,[314][315] and far-right wealthy Texans.[314] Some other alleged foreign conspirators includes, the KGB and Nikita Khrushchev,[316][314] Aristotle Onassis,[315] the government of South Vietnam,[318] and international drug lords,[314] including a French heroin syndicate.[318]

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mark s, Tuesday, 3 May 2022 17:47 (two years ago) link

https://spikemagazine.com/reviews/onion.jpg

JRN, Tuesday, 3 May 2022 17:50 (two years ago) link

thats right

mark s, Tuesday, 3 May 2022 17:51 (two years ago) link

words david ferrie did not say in the early to mid-1960s: "wannabe"

mark s, Tuesday, 3 May 2022 18:09 (two years ago) link

"i could give you a false name, but i won't, just call me X" lol im sorry that is also a false name in my opinion

mark s, Tuesday, 3 May 2022 18:30 (two years ago) link

if you wannabe my lover
u gotta shoot up my friends

Deez NFTs (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 May 2022 18:32 (two years ago) link

garrison (squeaky with horror at the chaotic info-dump that agent "X" just unloaded on him): "i can't believe they killed him bcz he wanted to *change* things!"
me (squeaky with exhaustion even tho im watching this dumb movie in half-hour stretches): "yeah they didn't u colossal nincompoop"
agent "X" (not real name apparently): long section late in (longer) info-dump explaining how robert macnamara of all ppl lol was undermining the drive to war

sutherland is fun to watch of course but his character -- this unflappably amused and cynical aristocratic deep throat -- makes no sense (yes i know he's based on fletcher prouty, and yeah, 30 years later prouty does come across more like this in affect on youtube and wherever)

mark s, Wednesday, 4 May 2022 17:48 (two years ago) link

agent "X" (not real name apparently): "you've become a significant threat to the national security structure! they'd have killed you already bit you've gotta lotta light on you!"
me (eyes rolling down the back mf my head and along the floor): "unlike president john f kennedy in dallas who no one was paying to attention or had even heard of really"
narrator: "he had not become a significant threat to the national security structure"

mark s, Wednesday, 4 May 2022 17:54 (two years ago) link

words david ferrie did not say in the early to mid-1960s: "wannabe"

― mark s, Tuesday, May 3, 2022 6:09 PM (yesterday)

online etymology dictionary traces this one to 1981. clearly david ferrie was sent back in time by the true murderers to throw us off the trail.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 4 May 2022 18:01 (two years ago) link

lol ffs the weepy strings on this scene

https://i.imgur.com/56zQw6U.jpg
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mark s, Wednesday, 4 May 2022 18:06 (two years ago) link

not gnna lie i wanna see the plays clay shaw wrote

mark s, Wednesday, 4 May 2022 18:14 (two years ago) link

was really not prepared to find out why people were talking about Jar Jar Binks and JFK

— Sarah Jones (@onesarahjones) May 4, 2022

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 4 May 2022 18:20 (two years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/odvOVBB.png

mark s, Wednesday, 4 May 2022 18:24 (two years ago) link

divorce him liz he isn't worth it, get out and save yrself

mark s, Wednesday, 4 May 2022 18:26 (two years ago) link

lol this domestic squabble is Q-pilling me to see this movie as verhoeven-level irony

need someone to shop showgirls and jfk into the same poster tbrr

mark s, Wednesday, 4 May 2022 18:37 (two years ago) link

Don't ever let me watch a movie sitting next to mark s.

Max Hamburgers (Eric H.), Wednesday, 4 May 2022 20:38 (two years ago) link

its true i talk non-stop and take pix wth my phone and post them on the internet

mark s, Wednesday, 4 May 2022 20:44 (two years ago) link

but dont worry i will never let you do that

mark s, Wednesday, 4 May 2022 20:44 (two years ago) link

do not forget your dying king, mark!

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 4 May 2022 21:21 (two years ago) link

nothing u say can ruin my enjoyment of this movie

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 5 May 2022 04:15 (two years ago) link

What if no one shot JFK and his head just did that?

— Tom Broome-Jones | Black Lives Matter (@TBroomey) August 3, 2017

mark s, Thursday, 5 May 2022 09:36 (two years ago) link

more champagne!

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 5 May 2022 10:02 (two years ago) link

"sutherland is fun to watch" is part of the key here. Facts and logic will ofc destroy a lot of what he is saying (though not all - war driving growth is a powerful aspect, what with the industry and networks built around defence -- all the way up to billions in contracting in Afghanistan). but it's all delivery, coupled with the hard to believe fact that a lone person could've killed the most powerful person in the world. Sutherland's monologue is a sorta cry for their lot not being as good as they think they are, and the damage of that knowledge.

Around the fourth or fifth time of watching I get round to thinking people can win. Maybe in the end we could get out of this prison.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 5 May 2022 10:20 (two years ago) link

back on my bullshit = being correct abt how dumb and bad this movie is

now watching the last hour (i had to take a big time out from the nonsense one week ago): back in to discover johnny carson was also in on the fix, literally the only person not in the conspiracy was garrison bcz he's so milkily annoying

mark s, Saturday, 14 May 2022 13:38 (one year ago) link

i do remember exactly where i was when i heard the news of rfk's assassination: i was at the kitchen table in a little welsh farmhouse where we went every year for our summer holiday, listening to dad's little portable radio… tho all i remember is sounds of muffled shouting and chaos, like the bbc radio new was broadcasting live from the scene

i also remember that this occurred during the broadcast on the same radio -- which i listened to at the same kitchen table -- of the moon landing: as my memory has it, it went "giant step for mankind", muffled shouting, shots, chaos…

stone shd make a movie abt THAT when sirhan sirhan gets out, sirhan can play buzz aldrin

mark s, Saturday, 14 May 2022 13:54 (one year ago) link

tommy lee jones shd wear this wig in all his movies tbf

mark s, Saturday, 14 May 2022 13:57 (one year ago) link

^ that's right (for a change)

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 14 May 2022 14:31 (one year ago) link

feel like this summing up (which doesn't once mention clay shaw) is not going to do the work of convicting clay shaw

mark s, Saturday, 14 May 2022 15:03 (one year ago) link

not guilty (good verdict)

mark s, Saturday, 14 May 2022 15:11 (one year ago) link

Can we please go back to posting random bits of dialogue now that Mark S is done watching?

Best movie ever.

ArchCarrier, Tuesday, 17 May 2022 13:49 (one year ago) link

Can we do them from memory, though?

Kevin Costner: what I’m saying is that in order for the government’s theory about the assassination of JFK, née John Fitzgerald Kennedy, our nation’s favorite son, to make sense, we must prescribe to what i am calling Magic Bullet Time theory, which is actually quite interesting if true. Roll the footage

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 17 May 2022 13:53 (one year ago) link

The government's gonna jump all over your head, mark, and go "cock-a-doodle-doo!" Good day, sir!

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 17 May 2022 13:53 (one year ago) link

Costner: I don’t like the looks of this one bit. Let’s put some grits on the iron and keep the coffee coming honey, there’s gonna be some paperwork filed tonight

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 17 May 2022 13:55 (one year ago) link

xp That's what I mean.

ArchCarrier, Tuesday, 17 May 2022 13:56 (one year ago) link

That is precisely the point of a loooong JFK thread.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 17 May 2022 13:58 (one year ago) link

this Oswald character, I agree that he must have been involved. But here's the thing -- I don't think he acted alone.

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 17 May 2022 18:32 (one year ago) link

It's JFK's fault.

i wrote about a specific style of fandom-led conspiracy thinking that has become quietly quite popular over the last 10 years and is now making its highly public debut! https://t.co/hpZpqmGR6J

— Kaitlyn Tiffany (@kait_tiffany) May 17, 2022

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 17 May 2022 21:16 (one year ago) link

xyzzzz ain't got no reason to lie, he already in ILX!

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 17 May 2022 21:24 (one year ago) link

When you’re taking about the greatness of John Candy, never sleep on his role in JFK: “The government’s gonna jump all over your head, Jimbo, and go cock-a-doodle-doo.” pic.twitter.com/3XgLh6Mrzr

— Super 70s Sports (@Super70sSports) May 18, 2022

"Ya got the right ta-ta but the wrong ho-ho" may be the greatest line in movie history.

Eggs Benedick (Eric H.), Thursday, 19 May 2022 10:06 (one year ago) link

stop eatin' that crab meat and listen!

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 19 May 2022 10:08 (one year ago) link

like i told the fbi: that call was a figment of my imagination!

difficult listening hour, Thursday, 19 May 2022 15:43 (one year ago) link

All I wanted to be was a Catholic priest

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 21 May 2022 09:39 (one year ago) link

If it's a suicide, I seen weirder, Jim.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 21 May 2022 09:41 (one year ago) link

The president has been shot! He has been taken to a hospital but he is going to make it. Johnson will carry out the responsibilities of president until Jack is able to recover. We really dodged a bullet there, boys

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Saturday, 21 May 2022 14:54 (one year ago) link

Why don't we drop this subject. It's one thing to engage in badinage with all these youngsters, but this sort of thing could be So. Easily. Misunderstood.

ArchCarrier, Saturday, 21 May 2022 16:41 (one year ago) link

More champagne!

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 21 May 2022 16:53 (one year ago) link

Here's to the New Frontier. Camelot in smithereens. I'll drink to that.

ArchCarrier, Saturday, 21 May 2022 17:01 (one year ago) link

I've seen enough in this place to write a book.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 21 May 2022 17:07 (one year ago) link


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