Pavement:Classic or Dud

slightly offtopic, but morrisp - do you still have that david's gone file from the burned cd? wondering if i could do something to decode/convert it somehow - no promises though

Sorry, I don’t!

ah well, was worth asking... have been on the hunt for that track and have gotten close to finding it a million times, no luck yet unfortunately

another copy of the tape just sold on ebay today though, so who knows

$399 for a TDK D60? Holy moley…

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— PAVEMENT (@pavement_band) May 12, 2022

We’re seeing them on Monday the 23rd, at the Fonda

How much were your tix?

I think around $120 each (incl. fees)

That’s a lot of greenlander

Wave your credit cards in the air, right?

(we’re also seeing them in September, more than once…)

I listened to crooked rain this morning via shitify and remembered how much better it sounded on my wobbly turntable years ago :p

calstars, this isn't the Kids in the Hall thread.

Whatever that means

Five middle-aged white guys coming back for another reunion!

Mastering on most of those reissues sadly sounds like butt

Five middle-aged white guys coming back for another reunion!

the Atl show this fall sold out immediately (at least for the sat night show) when tix went on sale last year. found out my best friend from jr high/hs and his wife were coming in town for it so my gf and I got some on Vivid Seats and it’s kind of embarrassing what I ended up paying. bless her she’s a music fan w fairly eclectic tastes and genuinely game for whatever. but after the purchase she (grew up in Brazil) was like ok so who’s this band commanding these kinds of prices. I played some her some “hits” and she’s basically “huh. how about that.” Loooool

Someone should compare the ticket prices with the current Smashing Pumpkins tour, and figure out who finally won that war

Dud

lol I'm sure Pavement's point on that song was that they were ultimately going to make more money than Smashing Pumpkins

I was thinking of a good first show to bring my 7.5 year old to; he kinda digs pavement, figured it was far enough out that I could get some sort of not terribly expensive tickets and holy shit the cheapest ones for the closest show are $170 apiece.

i saw them ten years ago and they were fine. "grounded" was dope live

I saw them in 1994 and people were slam dancing. I saw them in '99 and people were standing around nodding their heads.

i've seen videos of people moshing to mbv, the 90s were something

lol I'm sure Pavement's point on that song was that they were ultimately going to make more money than Smashing Pumpkins

While I'm (mostly) joking, I wasn't thinking of the song so much as Corgan slamming them - “People don’t fall in love to Pavement... they put on Smashing Pumpkins or Hole or Nirvana, because these bands actually mean something to them.” Obviously he was full of it at the time, but the fact that their fans are willing/eager to shell out $$$ to see them play again shows how much they mean to a lot of people.

(also, I disagree w/that "reading" of the song, even though it's like my least favorite Pavement song, but whatevs)

Looks like some wiseguys wrote the band’s current bio: https://www.fondatheatre.com/events/detail/432593

Both Pavement and the Pumpkins meant a lot to me in high school and college so I don’t really have a side, but if Billy ever pulled his head out of his ass, buried the hatchet with D’Arcy and truly embraced the nostalgia and quit pretending anyone gives a shit about the music he’s written in the last two decades, he could be making money hand over fist.

xpost That was a fun read. Worldwide hits galore!

I figured they just tweaked the AllMusic bio, and (upon checking) I was OTM

https://www.instagram.com/tv/Cdyb_NajYwZ/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

sorry if this was posted already

was that just a chunk of the show, i.e. that's how the show plays? or was that clips from the show edited together?

never seen it. seems ... unappealing.

Someone said that Crooked is their least favorite because of the sound of the production ? Crazy

This morning I was humming "Grounded" and had a realisation wow, I get the pun about "contact bridge": it's like contract bridge but it's a contact sport so I looked up the lyrics and actually it's just "contract bridge" after all. Well played, Pavement.

Crooked Rain is their best sounding record imo.

Exactly

I know it was recorded in NY but it sounds sunny SoCal to me all the way.

I vaguely remember reading an article where SM described driving around in a convertible with instrumental versions of the songs making up lyrics as he drove. And the record sounds like that to me.

Fully believe he said that. But it isn't true is it?

alpine static, that video you asked about is a highly edited “highlight”. The actual show broadcasts live.

“I/they don’t have no function”
Always wondered if that was an misread or improvised change

the dudes all look 55ish except Ibold, who looks 75. it's his posture and his clothes!

(i realize Mark's a few years older than the others.)

sorry. that IG i sent earlier was just a highlight reel. This is a an hour or so of the full thing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbwCH3i4R9k

I think the rest you have to pay for

I think Steve West says about 4 words total the entire time

the zoom in on West when he zones out is hilarious

Anyone else here going tonight?

omg you guys…..

good band, huh?

Wow, that was a painful 2-3 minutes to watch, for so many reasons.

The pain had to do largely with where and who they were with there, but, if you’re selling a tour and a reissue you gotta promote, so …