Qui prior egressus est, Iacobus Rufus erat: A thread for all things Latin

well, at a glance I'd say that all the examples you cited - status quo, de facto, persona non grata, bona fide, sui generis, sine qua non, ad infinitum, et cetera - are used in Portuguese, tho being a Latin language "de facto" is just actual current Portuguese and "et cetera" barely registers as Latin. But stuff like bona fide feels English.

yes, like the line for the romance languages is much more blurred than it will be the germanic languages

(apparently -- sez wikipedia -- 40% of bavarian grammar schools still study latin)

english as like a near-militantly mongrel language offers a strong model for mongrelism as it speards into other languages among the cosmpolitan on-line young (this is my fancy way of rewriting what you said above w/o the use of the i-word)

fancy yet also full of typos

Exoptatus mundum meum advenisti.

Yes, I didn't understand most of this. I don't think it was translated in the book. Rather problematic for the reader.

Convenience link:
https://latinitium.com/latin-dictionaries/

More about this guy: https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/pico-della-mirandola/

After a short stay in Paris, Pico returned to Florence, and then Arezzo, where he caused a scandal by abducting a young woman named Margherita, already married to Giuliano Mariotto de’ Medici. Despite the support that came from Lorenzo de’ Medici, the commotion that followed and then a plague kept Pico on the move, just at the time he was writing a Commento on a love poem by Girolamo Benivieni and planning his larger scheme of philosophical concord

Says he was also the first Xtian Kabbalist. No wonder Borges namechecked him.

my larger scheme of philosophical concord does not include abducting anyone, i guess this is my big mistake

https://www.thelatinlibrary.com/mirandola.html

Apparently this was his magnum opus, HI DERE:
https://www.thelatinlibrary.com/mirandola/oratio.shtml

His story is all over this place, and his wiki page is a little more readable than over there at Plato Stanford.

'Quid pro quo' is useful and commonly understood. As with schadenfreude, there's no native English idiom that conveys the meaning quite so succinctly.

Speaking of hybridization, I am fascinated by the influence of Arabic on Spanish. The Wikipedia page has a pretty good list of direct word imports. One of the most frequently used in everyday speech is "ojalá," which roughly translates to "hopefully" and comes from "‘law šá lláh," which means "God willing" (I guess it's an earlier form or variant of "inshallah"). Although it's pretty much lost its religious connotations, surely thought patterns persist.

Arabic influence on the Spanish language

More from the pinefox’s book:
dies faustus, which means “lucky day.”

gradus as Parnassum, literally “steps to Parnassus, and usually intended to mean learning something gradually, and therefore often a common title for instruction manuals.

Aargh gradus ad Parnassum

tempus anima rei, time is the soul of things, so maybe time is of the essence.

Those are all in the book?

Yes

the word parnassus needs a bit more opening up maybe: it's the name of the mountain range in central greece where apollo worked with the muses to make divine music

now we would perhaps say "elevator to beyoncé"

Unusually, I walked past poster Mark S's home yesterday.

My main thought was: actually, this is a tremendous place to live, isn't it?

(No Latin content in this post I'm afraid)

ORIGIN: L tremendus to be trembled at

gerundive of tremere, to tremble

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtCB6fftSwA

the text I most remember from high school is from Catullus, the most famous of his poems, about his conflicted relationship with Lesbia

Ōdī et amō. Quārē id faciam fortasse requīris
Nesciŏ, sed fierī sentiō et excrucior

I hate and I love. Maybe you ask why I do this
I don't know, but I feel it happening and I am tortured

Have my eye on the reader Familia Romana but have been holding off for a bit.

Noli turbare circulos meos!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtgAtluo9aw

Note that the song is titled “Panis Et Circenses” but otherwise it’s usually “panem et circenses,” with the bread in the accusative.

Contra malum mortis non est medicamentum in hortis.

Although I see other alternate wordings of that.

Just saw on TCM that Walter Matthau used the term sine invidia in a letter to Billy WIlder about The Fortune Cookie script.

Lupus in fabula.

— Em tibi autem!
— Quidnamst?
— Lupus in fabula.
— Pater est?
— Ipsust.
— Terence, Adelphoe 535–539

— But look!
— What is it?
— Talk of the devil!
— It’s my father?
— In person.
(Transl. Barsby, 2001)

obv (and against barsby) i favour "whomst is it?" for "quidnamst?"

Lol

Also have been thinking about posting
Festina lente

Last seen here one and only time on a certain type of very olde thread.

Homines quod volunt credunt.

The Duolingo course is not so great but at least it has audio and I haven’t personally maxed it out like so many others so I have been plugging away at it recently

flumenflue, transitum Eva et Adae, declinationem ab litore ad flectere lauri, commodius ab nobis facit Houuthi vicus de castro et recirculus ad circumstant.

Horror vacui

Non sunt multiplicanda entia praeter necessitatem.

solitudinem faciunt, pacem appellant

a palindrome and riddle:

In girum imus nocte et consumimur igni

Aquilam volare, delphinum natare doces.

https://logeion.uchicago.edu/vir

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7hd799IznU

Apparently the preferred method by far these days of self-study is a book known as Lingua Latina or LLPSI (in full, LINGVA LATINA PER SE ILLVSTRATA), written by a Danish linguist and high school teacher named Hans Ørberg. It’s 100% in Latin and uses the Natural Method to teach, which I guess means letting the brain what it does naturally. There is all kinds of ancillary material built up around if, including the audio version I just linked to.

Around it

I realized recently I still know the Our Father and Hail Mary in latin which I guess is what happens when you take Latin at a catholic HS.