I really do want to hear this alternate "Wilderness of False Flowers" because it's over twice as long as the version on the new album!
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 28 April 2022 03:16 (one year ago) link
both those tracks will be (are?) on the 3CD (2.2 and 2.3)
https://rateyourmusic.com/release/comp/les-rallizes-denudes-masato-minami-miyako-ochi-acid-seven/oz-days-live-%E2%80%9972%E2%80%93%E2%80%9973-kichijoji-50%E1%B5%97%CA%B0-anniversary-collection/
― StanM, Thursday, 28 April 2022 12:56 (one year ago) link
but that Wilderness Of False Flowers is indeed 3 minutes shorter than on the vinyl EP/single - weird
https://www.lesrallizesdenudes-official.com/en/information/2022-04-06_841/
― StanM, Thursday, 28 April 2022 13:01 (one year ago) link
New feature/interview up at Bandcamp
https://daily.bandcamp.com/features/les-rallizes-denudes-the-oz-tapes-feature
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 14:20 (one year ago) link
nice to see that
― nxd, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 16:00 (one year ago) link
And Light in the Attic has the Oz Days 3xCD up for pre-order, out in October. Looks like a great package:
https://lightintheattic.net/releases/8890-oz-days-live-72-73-kichijoji-the-50th-anniversary-collection
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 20 July 2022 18:11 (one year ago) link
https://lesrallizesdenudes.bandcamp.com/album/les-rallizes-d-nud-s
the 12"" single with the two tracks that will be on the 3CD now available digitally
― StanM, Friday, 2 September 2022 17:26 (one year ago) link
the mail said this but I don't see that anywhere (or they're gone already) - "Available now—Bandcamp Friday 9/2/22—we have the remaining 150 copies of the 12" for sale. One copy per person/order. $20 + Shipping. Thank you for supporting Temporal Drift and Les Rallizes Dénudés here on Bandcamp.” "
― StanM, Friday, 2 September 2022 17:28 (one year ago) link
150 copies? Glad to see they are honoring the tradition of making LRD product impossible to procure
― Paul Ponzi, Friday, 2 September 2022 17:50 (one year ago) link
that long slow version of Wilderness Of False Flowers is pretty great
― StanM, Sunday, 4 September 2022 07:09 (one year ago) link
saw this posted elsewhere, from the Temporal Drift Facebook page:
"We can now officially share the news that Temporal Drift will be reissuing "67-'69 Studio Et Live," "MIZUTANI / Les Rallizes Dénudés," and "'77 Live" by Les Rallizes Dénudés. Originally released on CD by Rivista Inc. in 1991, these are the only official albums released during the band's lifetime, other than 1973's OZ DAYS LIVE.Pre-orders for the CD and LP will begin on 9/28. Our reissues will be available throughout the world, other than Japan and Asia.We can also share that there will be a new 12" single made up of bonus tracks from the CDs.More details soon..."
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 12 September 2022 16:44 (one year ago) link
Reminds me, you can get the Oz Days digitally here:
https://temporaldrift.bandcamp.com/album/oz-days-live-72-73-kichijoji-the-50th-anniversary-collection
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 12 September 2022 17:12 (one year ago) link
77 Live is a fucking amazing record; I have a really good bootleg version with the title in French, but I will absolutely buy this new version if they've done anything noticeable about cleaning it up. Maybe the others, too.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 12 September 2022 17:15 (one year ago) link
I feel like they would have said remaster or remix if they did a lot of work on them, reissue feels like... not? Not 100% sure though
― StanM, Monday, 12 September 2022 17:21 (one year ago) link
I've emailed the label to ask. If I get an answer I'll post it.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 12 September 2022 17:30 (one year ago) link
We know you've been waiting for the OZ DAYS LIVE Book+3CD set, and we promise it's coming very soon, after a short manufacturing delay! In the meantime, we are very excited to share that the album is now available to stream everywhere. Find it on your preferred platform here: temporaldrift.ffm.to/ozdaysliveDigital downloads are also available from our Bandcamp. Featuring the complete recordings of Les Rallizes Dénudés at OZ, this release features essential and many previously unheard performances by Masato Minami, Miyako Ochi, and Acid Seven.temporaldrift.bandcamp.com/album/oz-days-live-72-73-kichijoji-the-50th-anniversary-collection
― StanM, Saturday, 24 September 2022 22:10 (one year ago) link
Oh darn, more reissues are live, oh no
https://lesrallizesdenudes.bandcamp.com/album/mizutani-les-rallizes-d-nud-s
https://lesrallizesdenudes.bandcamp.com/album/67-69-studio-et-live
https://lesrallizesdenudes.bandcamp.com/album/77-live
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 30 September 2022 18:09 (one year ago) link
oh no! :-)
― StanM, Friday, 30 September 2022 18:54 (one year ago) link
All three have this: "features newly remastered audio by former Rallizes member Makoto Kubota"
― StanM, Friday, 30 September 2022 19:49 (one year ago) link
OK, can an expert here tell me which one of these I should buy if I prefer dreamy, 3rd Velvets album Denudes to explosive 45 minutes of amp destruction Denudes?
― Paul Ponzi, Friday, 30 September 2022 20:03 (one year ago) link
lol not Live 77
― sleeve, Friday, 30 September 2022 20:09 (one year ago) link
I'd have to refresh my memory on the other two
― sleeve, Friday, 30 September 2022 20:10 (one year ago) link
Yeah, Live 77 is the tear-your-face-off one. Mizutani is actually mostly acoustic(!), so that's probably what you're looking for. And 67-69 live obviously is gonna be more Sixties-sounding, too.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 30 September 2022 20:11 (one year ago) link
Thanks! I have CD copies of Mars Studio, Heaver Than A Death In the Family, and Blind Baby, but I seem to recall an LP (boot obviously) that was super jangley and droney and I loved it, but no idea what it was called
― Paul Ponzi, Friday, 30 September 2022 20:19 (one year ago) link
How much overlap is there between 77 Live and Heavier Than A Death In the Family?
― lord of the rongs (anagram), Saturday, 1 October 2022 06:48 (one year ago) link
5 of the 6 Heavier tracks are on 77 Live, where they also sound better + 77 Live has The Last One and 記憶は遠い ("Memory is Distant")The only Heavier-exclusive track is "People Can Choose" (which is actually Field Of Artificial Flowers and a 1973 recording)
in short: 77 Live > Heavier
― StanM, Saturday, 1 October 2022 07:50 (one year ago) link
Goddammit.
Don’t throw those Les Rallizes Dénudés bootlegs away just yet! Original 1991 CD of “'77 Live”—an incredibly loud disc for its era—vs. the maximized/destroyed 2022 reissue: pic.twitter.com/qCarIw6vRW— Andy Zax (@andyzax) October 14, 2022
― but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 14 October 2022 23:32 (one year ago) link
That sucks to see, but as someone who doesn’t have the 1991 CD, I’ll deal. It’s not like I turn to LRD for a fine sounding audiophile experience anyway….
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 14 October 2022 23:52 (one year ago) link
I thought the production trick with all that PSF/High Rise/Keiji Haino stuff that came up in the wake of Rallizes was to wallop everything into the red anyway, all the better to conceal the fact it was probably recorded on a malfunctioning reel-to-reel.
― pick the mouse that can reach all the cheese in the maze (Matt #2), Saturday, 15 October 2022 00:11 (one year ago) link
yeah but "into the red" is different in the analog realm vs the digital realm
― sleeve, Saturday, 15 October 2022 00:12 (one year ago) link
and too much ruins it either way
― sleeve, Saturday, 15 October 2022 00:13 (one year ago) link
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/03/arts/music/les-rallizes-denudes.html
Acid Seven, a bandleader and prankster who was a regular at Oz, recalled Mizutani interrupting his stoic silence at jam sessions only to utter existentialist riddles. He described Mizutani once taking a drag from his ever-present cigarette and proclaiming, “The smoke coming out of my mouth is extinguishing my ego,” with no further explanation offered.
By being totally uncompromising about the band’s sound, Mizutani effectively exiled himself from the Japanese music industry. Shime Takahashi, who played drums with the Rallizes in the mid-70s, recalled the band once working in a professional studio, only to find that the engineer never pressed record because he thought it was still rehearsing. Mizutani had been playing with the Rallizes for more than 20 years before releasing its three albums in 1991 — two sets of early recordings, and another double-CD live set of the band at its noisiest.
In a series of interviews this summer, Kubota said he had been working for months to sort through Mizutani’s collection, including numerous studio and live recordings.
“Now I have received the material for four full concerts and started working on it,” Kubota said. “It will be monstrous.”
― curmudgeon, Saturday, 15 October 2022 06:53 (one year ago) link
Has anyone seen any news on the reissues? Pitchfork said the CDs would issue on 25 November, but the official website doesn't seem to have that info (it doesn't seem to be a well organised site).
The graphs above are not encouraging...
― Duke, Monday, 14 November 2022 20:57 (one year ago) link
Bandcamp also says they will be shipping on or around 11/25, so fingers crossed.
Still waiting for my OZ Days Live to ship as well (looks like that was updated to 11/18).
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 14 November 2022 21:05 (one year ago) link
digital releases out on Nov 29th, physical will be shipped in Jan/Feb 2023, I see on Bandcamp.
― StanM, Friday, 25 November 2022 22:15 (one year ago) link
^ the three ex-bootlegs, that is
― StanM, Friday, 25 November 2022 22:22 (one year ago) link
They're out - and 77 Live is brickwall central indeed. But so was the bootleg, to be fair.
The other two aren't as bad (first track on 67-69 studio & live is over the top too but the rest is better)
― StanM, Tuesday, 29 November 2022 19:55 (one year ago) link
My old copy of ‘77 Live sounds much better than this reissue. (Downloaded WAVs from Bandcamp.) Keeping the earlier version for sure.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 29 November 2022 20:01 (one year ago) link
same :-(
― StanM, Wednesday, 30 November 2022 10:24 (one year ago) link
Eh, I have been looking for a reasonably priced copy of '77 Live for years (certainly not paying the $130 they are currently going for), so I'll just have to deal with one that is slightly inferior.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 30 November 2022 15:51 (one year ago) link
This is the one to get. Nice packaging, really good sound.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 30 November 2022 15:57 (one year ago) link
Definitely more affordable! Saw that one at one point, but wasn't sure if it was the same material.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 30 November 2022 15:59 (one year ago) link
FYI - if you were like me and ordered any of the new CDs from Temporal Drift, the bandcamp page now says they won't be shipped until January 26, 2023
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 6 December 2022 23:37 (one year ago) link
Looks like we got another bonus release:
https://www.discogs.com/release/25401199-Les-Rallizes-D%C3%A9nud%C3%A9s-Romance-Of-The-Black-Pain-Otherwise-Fallin-Love-With
Bonus 12" of material from that couldn't be included on the '67-'69 Studio Et Live and Mizutani / Les Rallizes Dénudés LP reissues.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 December 2022 03:56 (one year ago) link
my vinyl copy of OZ Days finally arrived. sounds fantastic.
― stirmonster, Wednesday, 21 December 2022 21:09 (one year ago) link
Mine arrived a week or two ago - been on a lot & yes it sounds great
― woof, Thursday, 22 December 2022 10:55 (one year ago) link
Trying again on the right thread this time...
Has anyone else that pre-ordered any of the three LRD CDs from Temporal Drift received a shipping notification or anything? Supposedly these were to be shipped out a couple weeks ago, but I haven't heard or seen anything.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 9 February 2023 15:30 (one year ago) link
Was gonna ask — I've heard nothing.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 9 February 2023 16:23 (one year ago) link
Just emailed the label; will post whatever response I get.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 9 February 2023 16:24 (one year ago) link
Thanks
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 9 February 2023 16:44 (one year ago) link