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yeah kudos to the league the playin tourney is working as planned, to decrease tanking, and the games have even been exciting which is a nice bonus, im sure theyll keep working on solving the resting issue but i kinda doubt theres as easy of a solution out there

guess one thing is they could do lengthen the season again, which addresses the games too close together issue if not the too many games one

yeah kudos to the league the playin tourney is working as planned, to decrease tanking, and the games have even been exciting which is a nice bonus, im sure theyll keep working on solving the resting issue but i kinda doubt theres as easy of a solution out there

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add in that one of the lower teams that got in via the play in is giving the #1 seed a handful

the play-in has definitely worked better than i thought mostly due to the upward pressure to be the 6 seed.

yeah ive come around on the play in but dont think i will ever like the mid season tourney idea

getting rid of back to backs is my main thing thats the source of the most rest days afaict, also just generally a bummer when your team is playing without rest vs a team that is rested

a higher quality game makes them more money tho

much as I'd like to think is true, I don't believe this. the committed fans will watch the regular season because it's still the highest quality hoops in the world (outside of the nba playoffs) and casuals can't appreciate differences in quality and don't really care.

ciderpress otm, it’s not fair and also probably the biggest cause of resting guys(citation needed)

how feasible is it to eliminate back-to-backs? MSG, for example, is booked pretty full in winter and i have no idea who gets first crack at the dates they want

if back-to-backs are necessary another possibility would be playing two-game sets. it doesn't give bodies time to recover, but eliminating the need for travel in between would surely be a bonus (and fewer overall trips would save teams on travel expenses)

how feasible is it to eliminate back-to-backs? MSG, for example, is booked pretty full in winter and i have no idea who gets first crack at the dates they want

Answer is to fold the Knicks.

finally

League discussed update on the “transition take foul” during its General Managers meeting in Chicago today. There was widespread support in meeting, as conversations have been ongoing among the NBA, NBPA and Competition Committee over the past several months. https://t.co/TZnkcWcYLD

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) May 17, 2022

ok that’s good

also announced they are moving towards the in season tourney. reallllllly interested to see whats proposed here

ok that's bad

the play in worked so they earned it but itll prob be dumb, as long as they dont make it affect playoff seeding or whatever i dont really care maybe itll be fun who knows

yes more games what we need is more games

The NBA is changing the take foul rule for summer leagues in San Francisco, Utah and Las Vegas -- one free throw, plus the ball, for transition take fouls.

Likely a precursor to what's coming to the NBA. Board of Governors expected to make the final change later this month.

— Tim Reynolds (@ByTimReynolds) July 1, 2022

the play-in is here to stay. wonder if theyll find a place to put the stats?

ESPN Sources: NBA’s Board of Governors is expected on Tuesday to approve the Play-In Tournament as a regular part of future league seasons. The Play-In had been voted on a year-to-year basis in past two seasons, but support exists to turn it into annual element of NBA structure.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) July 11, 2022

nice

The NBA Board of Governors have approved the "Transition Take Foul rule" this rule would award the offensive team with one free throw and retain possession, Per @ShamsCharania pic.twitter.com/pQsc2VccsY

— ClutchPoints (@ClutchPointsApp) July 13, 2022

Bless

Harden currently in the lab trying to figure out a way to game it in his favor

CP3 was already good at drawing those, he's gonna be out of control this season

this would be interesting

One of the best basketball leagues in the world, the ACB in Spain, is testing a new rule this season.

When inbounding the ball in the backcourt the referees no longer need to have control of the ball first.

(For the first 38 minutes of the game). pic.twitter.com/S4xJN3bfPG

— Dionysis Aravantinos (@AravantinosDA) September 21, 2022

love it

would likely lead to +/- 5 on-court heart attacks each year

NBA rules change this season to limit prolonged standing of bench players/coaches and crowding of sideline. Warning first. Then delay-of-game warning. Then technical. Unsportsmanlike technical assessed for players not in game who enter playing court or making "distracting" move.

— Ira Winderman (@IraHeatBeat) September 23, 2022

theoretically good seems like something that will never be enforced tho

So the Celtics bench always stands until their first basket, but the refs just held up play to tell all of them to sit down and get out of the way lol

— Jared Weiss (@JaredWeissNBA) October 5, 2022

seems like drafting high schoolers might not actually happen

Agents have no interest in guaranteeing full NBA combine participation or giving up control of players' medicals -- the only real leverage they have currently in steering clients away from undesirable franchises with poor track records for player development. NBPA members say they see little benefit to allowing a new class of teenagers to come in and take roster spots from veterans. And NBA executives are openly dreading the idea of returning to high school gyms and being forced to make career-altering decisions with limited information at their disposal. Sources say the union is indicating that in order to give Adam Silver -- who is the clear-cut driving force behind the elimination of the age limit -- what he desires in collective bargaining agreement negotiations in 2024, they expect to receive major financial concessions from team owners in exchange for this bargaining chip, something that may not be attractive to franchises since many believe that making the league even younger will water down the talent level. The fact that college basketball's biggest stars are now able to earn six- and seven-figure deals thanks to name, image and likeness deals softens some of the ethical concerns some had regarding preventing teenagers from earning a living when there is clearly a significant market for their services.

https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/insider/story/_/id/34775143/lessons-learned-team-usa-junior-national-team-mini-camp-cam-boozer-going-really-good

adam silver and... condoleezza rice are maybe the only ones who really want to do it

Silver himself admitted that, in the past, he favored increasing the age limit to 20, in theory meaning players would spend two years between high school and the NBA. But, after seeing how things have evolved over time -- including, he said, the proliferation of NIL deals and "a lot of societal changes," and the recommendations of the NCAA committee led by Condoleezza Rice on the subject -- he has changed his mind.

"It may be the case that it's in all of our interests that we start impacting with these young players, especially because in our sport they are identified at such a young age," Silver said, "and begin working with them on their development then, not just basketball skills but increasingly there's a focus on their mental health, their diets, just helping them build character and all of the important values around the sport."

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/34233695/nba-stiffens-penalty-transition-take-foul-approves-permanent-play-tournament

seems like silver is looking at it from a development perspective which is prob the way in which it makes sense no 18 year old is really good enough to be in the nba, maybe lebron idk

if you took the development pov to its rational conclusion what you would have imo is not drafting high school kids but rather euro soccer style academies, which is prob best from the pov of the players having basketball careers, there is the question of whether they have childhoods but most of these top players are so deep in the basketball system already its more offering them a better system than the typical aau prep schools weird quasi agent guys hanging around

particularly these guys just playing a million games is not great for their bodies and can cause injury issues, just giving them access to professional trainers, nutrition etc would be a huge plus, not playing so many games, focusing on skills development and so forth

i support the change to 18 on principle but otoh it’s possible the current system is….fine? not perfect but good enough?

i feel far less passionate about this subject now that there’s stuff like g league ignite & NIL etc. as a fan i’m not dying to accelerate the timeline on these kids by one year, i don’t see how it would change the viewing experience in any real way

i’m kinda surprised that silver is so passionate about this… ignite seems like a real success and i think for the league there is a benefit to players like zion, trae, scoot, wembanyama etc cultivating stardom for a year before entering the league

yeah i dont think drafting 18 year old is really good for anyone except maybe the players, from a purely entertainment standpoint having players do two years of college would prob be the best cause theyd be better and more famous by the time they hit the league, and itd be better for the college game, of course there are so many non college options now so its a little different, but thats not going to happen anyway

entertainmentwise drafting high school kids is i think a pretty strong negative you get too many busts and even good players take so long to develop

and yeah agree now that there are legit ways for them to get paid its less exploitative

only two of the top five prospects in this years draft are even in college, got big victor in europe, scoot on ignite, and ausar thompson is on the tiktok team (overtime elite)

it feels like refs just no longer call guys for not having two feet behind the line when inbounding the ball after a made basket anymore? obv i have no problem with this but i feel like i’m constantly noticing guys breaking this “rule”

Yah they don’t even bat an eye as long as you pass it in with confidence

i have not noticed this but i will keep an eye out

jokic is bad about this

lets fuckin do this lol

The NBA and Adam Silver have considered “relegation” as a punishment for tanking teams, where two of the worst NBA teams would be demoted to the G-League and two of the best G-League teams would be put in the NBA.

(via @Baxter, https://t.co/H4DDgFZutw) pic.twitter.com/Jo0yc3iHE5

— ProCity Hoops (@ProCityHoops) October 22, 2022

something tells me the kings will vote no on this proposal

the idea of random g league teams with shitty little stadiums losing every game in the nba and nba teams winning every game in the g league is pretty funny they should give it a shot

in all seriousness tanking is usually a bummer story for the nba but i think the wembanyama hysteria is prob good pr

everything about this proposal is correct and nothing is wrong

im not opposed to pro/rel in principle if the 2nd division was like euro soccer, but the g league is more like minor league baseball and p much every team is owned by another franchise, this is bad

like if the nba wants to expand to 32 teams and make 16 teams the top flight and the bottom 16 the 2nd (with the bottom 16 eligible for the lottery) then have them play against each other in the tournament thing they want to do, i think they'd get some owner buy-in, but the g-league is a joke

Just make the lottery for the top few picks a true lottery - every team in the league gets one ping-pong ball. (Okay maybe every team but the team that wins the title, they get no ping-pong balls cause they're the only team that doesn't need the help.)

bison is right—it’s as if no one has explained to them how relegation actually works

Yah in theory it is cool but a lot of other changes would need to take place and I don’t see it happening. I actually think the bottom three teams getting even odds has helped as well as the play in tourney. This year may be diff tho w scoot n ‘Yama as prize. Just feels like tanking was way worse a few seasons ago.

silver's obsession w/ european soccer is really tiresome