Come On Let's POLL - ILM Artist Poll #114 - BROADCAST (Polling and Lobbying Thread)

I think Misc isn't on The Future Crayon because it isn't very good, ymmv etc.

Haha. It's a great soundtrack to this footage, at the very least.

"make my sleep his song" is something wonderful

Nag! Nag! Nag! at 2:03 25 Apr 22
Haha. It's a great soundtrack to this footage, at the very least.

There's another channel similar to that one which was attempting to upload a video for every Broadcast track although the last time I looked all the uploads had been blocked by overly aggressive copyright claimers (the same purge that took all Stereolab's videos down for ages). Must've been reinstated at some point though as they're back now.

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3D767DF83686F484

Love how even some of the most amorphous Witch Cults segments made it into that batch. :)

Forgot to post something today, so here's an early track from the Maida Vale sessions CD, just an astonishing bit of music to throw away, maybe they thought it was a bit too 'Mysterions' but I think it's much better than that - Forget Every Time

Yes! Seeing as the BBC stuff (plus most of the remixes you pointed out) was my big weird blind spot, I've only been acquainted with it for maybe 6 weeks. But it almost instantly went onto my shortlist.

I hope the post-Witch Cults Ghost Box single won't go overlooked. Not least Inside Out. The Focus Group helps ensure it's agreeably incoherent lol. A fine smeary, quasi-motorik mess imho.

*bump*

Randomly selected track: Minim

(Well, I used Spotify to select it -- probably not truly random.)

Also, just in case it wasn't clear: there doesn't seem much appetite for excluding compilations from the albums ballot, so go for it!

gonna get a ballot together for this, but need to do some listening

Will Unchanging Window/Chord Simple votes get folded in with Unchanging Window votes?

I was just thinking about this! I'd say that's probably the most sensible way to go. Might even go so far as putting "Chord Simple" votes in the same basket, should there being any?!?

Makes sense but I wouldn't throw in Chord Simple - I think its voters will be voting for it deliberately separately.

Probably true. All three variants are certainly retaining distinct identities in my records, for counting purposes. I finalised my own ballot earlier and gave points to one of them! It's more a question of presentation at rollout time, I think.

Though that leaves the option open for voting for all three, I guess. Perhaps unlikely, but wouldn't necessarily want to preclude votes for "UW" and "CS" on the same ballot, at least. Any thoughts on this CaAL?

Anyway, I certainly think people should vote for the combined version just because it's purty. I'm pretty sure it didn't even register that "Chord Simple" had been an elaboration on a section of "UW" until they merged them, and then 22-years-ago me was like Ross here for a while:

The version of "Unchanging Window (Chord Simple)" from EP2 is probably my favourite Broadcast track ever.
― Ross, Tuesday, December 6, 2016

Just thinking about how each track on The Book Lovers EP had another unrelated track as a coda, a bit like a precursor to Microtronics, think my favourite is the one at the end of Message From Home.

artisan and blackwing. i edited them out into separate tracks on my copy, but not sure where i got the names.

they are mentioned in discogs and take their names from the recording studios they were recorded in

Vaguely related: I dig this take on one of their other bonus instrumental interludes, and their instrumental side more broadly.

https://thevinylfactory.com/features/beat-bandit-10-slept-on-psych-breaks-that-will-bend-your-mind/

I was only aware of a couple of these!

https://www.whosampled.com/Broadcast/sampled/

Incidentally, please don't count on any significant extension beyond the given deadline. We'll aiming for the week after that for the rollout. There's still a pretty generous ~3 weeks left, so let's pretend that we 'built in' the near-obligatory extension at the outset. :)

"WE'RE aiming" rather.

A curio today, here is a remix of a Badly Drawn Boy track, think I honestly prefer it to every BDB original - Another Pearl (Broadcast Remix)

starting to dive back into the catalog and it's making me want to re-watch lodge 49

amazing use of broadcast in several episodes, in particular "the book lovers" in one flashback scene

Fun Fact: very earliest ballots have cited 62 distinct tracks and 11 albums thus far. #ExtremelyPrematureFunFacts

I have a playlist of 40 songs ready to go. Feeling good about my choices, but still need to work on ordering them. I'll go through the playlist in the next few days to sort that out.

I was thinking again about "What You Want" aka "Dulcimer Jam" in the middle of the night. It's immensely unfortunate that we have no studio version of that, as I think would be quite popular in such an alternate universe. Freaked me out, it did, what with Keenan banging her twangy instrument and chanting "don't bleed (plead?) for the things you don't need", etc.

Given that it was seemingly the closer or penultimate track for over a year in their duo performances, it was surely becoming one of the most performed songs of their entire career. The crispest available recording might be the very last performance as the festival was, er, broadcast on the wireless. Anyway, it's on my ballot even though we have no definitive recording.

Whoops, that Youtube time index might the end of the song. It begins about 28:40, if that's the case.

Listening through today, Ominous Cloud is the one I had to bump up my list. I could listen to that outro forever.

It's also way higher on my ballot than I might have expected before this exercise! A *lot* of Haha Sound is, for that matter. I fear I underrate that whole LP when it's not playing.

Yeah, a few Haha Sound tracks have risen up my list too. It's always been my least favourite of the three main studio albums, but it really is an astonishing album.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOobFF1mXLU

ellenmeilee
7 years ago
A little backstory for fans of this song... Trish, who I was friends with for many years, used to come to my house during the day when I was out at work to write songs. My cat, Corky, is very shy, and at first he would just poke his head round the door of the room where she was sitting, and then run away. As the day went on, curiosity would overcome him and he would finally try and make friends with her. Hence, the lyrics of the chorus. We filmed some of the vid at my house and I appear in the vid for about 2 seconds. What a thrill and an honour for me and Corky xxx

: )

2005. Can we call them 'seminal figures' in the history of the cat video?!

Gee, the sound quality of this recording of a short LA set circa EP1 is ridiculously high. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekzAM56YVBw

Interesting how often an orphaned version of the bloopy post-"Where Youth & Laughter Go" interlude featured in sets around this time. Makes its omission from The Future Crayon all that more perplexing.

Started my dive back into their discography this morning with Work and Non-Work. So far, every single song from that album is in contention.

My feelings too, then every LP I was waiting for the drop in quality and it never came.

I love Broadcast so much and the idea of even just ranking their albums, let alone tracks, fills me with anxiety

Started my dive back into their discography this morning with Work and Non-Work. So far, every single song from that album is in contention.

― sctttnnnt (pgwp)

Yeah, I am absolutely voting for every track on this compilation. I am also realising that if this was a regular album, it would probably be in my top five albums of all time.

XP: Feel free to go with unranked tracks! (Albums too, if you really want lol. I've stated 'unranked or unranked' for albums as well in the past, with shorter ballots, but there's been zero demand for it, so simply left the word out this time.)

But, yeah, I get that none of this really addresses the problem of their oeuvre being pretty solid all the way through. :)

"ranked or unranked" rather, aaargh

voted. my god that was tough. still second guessing myself but I honestly love every single song I put down. Its just the order I can't nail down

Same for me. I love the 40 songs I have but I'm not going to ever be happy with the order. I'm still not even fully decided on my number one.

I really skimped on WANW in my submitted ballot due to some spurious sense of it being a bit 'early vaguely unformed sketches' relative to later albums and then I played it this morning and was rapt for 40 mins, so, yeah. There is no way of ranking Broadcast that does not short-change massive chunks of Broadcast.

"ranked or unranked"

forgot how much I adore the outro to “Look Outside”

Yes! "Look Outside" is great, but I too needed to remind myself of this fact.

LOL mattkkkk. Probably a "tide raises all boats" sort of move with this particular discography, but given we've had people ruling out voting for years now I'm happy to accommodate every possible quirk if it means an extra ballot or two. :)

After handful of ballots, 71 distinct tracks and 14 LPs/EPs have already got the nod from voters.

Shall I send you a quick summary, CaAL?

Incidentally, if I don't acknowledge your ballot by email (hopefully within a few hours unless it was the middle of the night here) something may have gone awry, so feel free to raise it. (I'm yet to experience this, but the occasional ballot has definitely gone astray in the long history of these polls, so please excuse this most tedious administrivia!)

Oh my, I just realised I didn't get mattkkkk's joke on the first pass. LOL.

I think that's it for nominations, NNN do you have any more in the inbox?

votes not nominations gah

Nope. So the present contents of the spreadsheet are basically it.

Just submitted a ballot, hope it's not too late. No worries if it is tho!

Yep. I'm about 10 minutes from my proper computer, so I'll rush home and enter it, CaAL!

ok with me

Thanks! Apologies for the last-minuteness

That concludes the data collection, by the way. Stay tuned for the rollout.

And thanks for voting, voters! I expected a faaairly lean turnout, and hesitated for years, given the conspicuously chilly reception to the idea in the poll coordinating thread. I think it's likely I would have just let it rest indefinitely without Camaraderie at Arms Length occasionally agitating for it over there!

24 ballots is healthier than I dared to expect. A whisker short of, say, a Prefab Sprout. :)

Look there has been plenty of time for everyone to discover Broadcast, so if 24 is the most we can muster, I am actually forming a judgement of ILXors on this matter.

Haha. 24 is not really a suuuper-low turnout by ILX 2022 standards. eg. Daft Punk apparently attracted 30 participants last month and they surely shifted some serious units and made news bulletins when they disbanded!

Something that came up repeatedly (starting years ago) is the "I love them but the discography is too tiny for this" thing. I guess there aren't many ostensibly 'pop' acts who are actually NOT really that at all for half of their discography.* For some, a lot of the vocal-free stuff and messy later stuff may be almost sub-consciously dismissed at the outset. I think I get how one might end up with a pre-shrunk pool of plausible candidates.

*obligatory Stereolab comparison: I feel like they more reliably retained hummable wordless vocal melodies and driving rhythms when meandering away from the land of lyrics.

. Daft Punk apparently attracted 30 participants last month...

What do you mean apparently? No, THEY did get 30 ballots when all was said and done.

I simply meant "I just went and found a source that told me that's what happened". If I gave the impression I doubted this claim, it was not intentional. It'd be pretty peculiar thing to dispute tbh!

No harm no foul. It just stuck me as weird to put "apparently" in that sentence as if I made up some ballots or something. All is well...

Oh god, no! Nothing like that!

I'd be prepared to believe that my word choices are odd. Like, quite often. Language processing is legit a bit of a mess for me nowadays, lol.

My apologies, I should've brought it up.

Good luck with this poll, it sounds like they have a dedicated fan base. Which should make for a great poll.

Twas a fair query!

Something just occurred me: two consecutive polls for artists with an early release on Duophonic, sort of.

Camaraderie at Arms Length is busily preparing for the rollout!

I've a question in the meantime.

A voter mentioned, when submitting their ballot, that that original second section of "Where Youth and Laughter Goes" (or the interlude after it, if you prefer) was likely kept off The Future Crayon because of an uncleared sample. Anyone know what they might have sampled?

I feel like I've alluded to it a comically large number of times in this thread but perhaps not linked to it directly. THIS BIT :)

CaAL has advised that a rolllout thread will be initiated around Sunday, with the rollout proper likely being Mon-Fri.

I know all the things, but I'm no less excited lol.

Very excited for this rollout!

Here's another unacknowledged borrowed melody. (Mostly in the final 30s.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtqDsZ8skNk

Apologies for radio silence over here, frantically making images when I can find time between busy work week, my wife's visa documents, my mix for 1942, etc. (No worries, I've cleared next week almost entirely)

(If anyone has any images they would like to suggest, feel free to post them here, no promises on using of course, but good to have a decent stock to work from)

Results thread here:

TEARS IN THE TYPING POLL: ILM Artist Poll #114 - BROADCAST (Results Thread)

all very well linking from that thread to here but it's this one that people have bookmarked