Sault - What's the story?

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Glad if anyone digs this, and props to them for following their muse, but I feel like I went to the ice cream store and Sault was like, “Sorry, no ice cream today, all we’re serving up is pretzels,” and I was like, “You do you, but Phil Glass’s place down the street does better pretzels. I’ll pass.”

war mice (hardcore dilettante), Saturday, 16 April 2022 05:04 (two years ago) link

hope you can get your money back

beepy fridges (sic), Saturday, 16 April 2022 05:13 (two years ago) link

Sounds like someone bought some new plugins for Logic.

29 facepalms, Saturday, 16 April 2022 08:18 (two years ago) link

this is fine for what it is but not something i'll want to come back to

ufo, Saturday, 16 April 2022 08:52 (two years ago) link

I wouldn't be surprised if this was all VST's. I don't think this is an attempt to confound expectations as much as showcasing what they can else they can do, maybe with an eye on a movie soundtrack/t.v. music gig. It can be a very lucrative platform to get into, especially when you are a prodigious studio producer and a creative, technical vocalist that seem to be reticent about performing live shows. I might be wrong but aren't Cleo and Inflo now husband and wife or partners with kids? moving in this direction makes sense to me, given their talents and options.

Swanswans, Saturday, 16 April 2022 13:10 (two years ago) link

given that this is basically a homage to David Axelrod, i think i will be listening to this a lot more than anything else for a while.

mark e, Saturday, 16 April 2022 16:43 (two years ago) link

Glad you like it so much. What about it reminds you of David Axelrod?

(I'm a huge Axelrod fan and know his records extremely well. Nothing on Air recalls Axelrod. I'm curious what you're hearing.)

Let's disco dance, Hammurabi! (Austin), Saturday, 16 April 2022 18:14 (two years ago) link

it's not a direct groove,
but the use of excess orchestral and choral vibes,
definitely makes me think this is the kind of thing that the axe would make had he had the chance again.

mark e, Saturday, 16 April 2022 18:27 (two years ago) link

I feel like an Axelrod or Jankovic sound (i.e. with drums, bass and guitar surrounded by orchestration) would've been more ehat I would've expected in a wide-screen Sault record. Might've sounded something like an Adrian Younge/Midnight Hour sound. But the beat-less/bass-lessness seems intentional...

Soundslike, Saturday, 16 April 2022 20:40 (two years ago) link

Oh, absolutely. Axe's 90s recordings are mostly without drums, but very dissonant. Can definitely hear how some of the weirder high register harmonics on Air are somewhat reminiscent of Earth Rot. If pressed, I'd say Air reminds me of Charles Stepney meets Alice Coltrane, but if you just broke both of those core sounds down to their barest of bare essentials.

Let's disco dance, Hammurabi! (Austin), Saturday, 16 April 2022 21:02 (two years ago) link

Yeah this is not my cup of tea but I still love they aren’t afraid of pushing themselves in a different direction.

I’m going to imagine this is like Pink Floyd’s “more” and the best is yet to come.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 17 April 2022 03:22 (two years ago) link

I simultaneously am impressed that they are always willing to try new stuff while secretly wishing they had continued on the vibe of 5 and 7, which were just two perfect little albums.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Sunday, 17 April 2022 09:04 (two years ago) link

really like "heart," but i feel like the vast majority of the stuff on the album has been done better elsewhere

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Monday, 18 April 2022 16:55 (two years ago) link

Yeah, I'm always going to check out anything they release, but this is the first time I'm not going to fork out for a physical version. I totally respect the experimentation and will anxiously await the next project, but this is just not my cup of tea.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 18 April 2022 16:59 (two years ago) link

this certainly can be my cup of tea at times lol, i will definitely return to "heart" often and "solar" less occasionally.

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Monday, 18 April 2022 17:09 (two years ago) link

i don't think i'll get the physical release of this either. i do appreciate it but don't imagine i'll return to it too often.

this Bandcamp review made me chuckle.


.... I love all your previous albums. LOVE THEM. But man....I am just dumbfounded. I wanted some smooth soul and something to dance to to make me forget the stresses of this world...and I didn't get that from this.

stirmonster, Monday, 18 April 2022 19:43 (two years ago) link

Now watch the next album is the one where they go physical only and the one preview song available online just absolutely kills.

Let's disco dance, Hammurabi! (Austin), Monday, 18 April 2022 19:57 (two years ago) link

That silly Bandcamp review makes me think, maybe a small motivation for this record could be sensing they were starting to be critically/popularly pinned down, and they don't strike me as having been interested in being defined and hence constrained. I always expect the unexpected from them.

Soundslike, Tuesday, 19 April 2022 02:14 (two years ago) link

i think it's just inflo doing whatever he wants really

ufo, Tuesday, 19 April 2022 02:46 (two years ago) link

Guardian review seems to imply only Inflo is involved with this one

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2022/apr/19/sault-air-review-a-daring-act-of-creative-rebirth-pays-off

groovypanda, Tuesday, 19 April 2022 13:45 (two years ago) link

cleo is definitely on at least “time is precious”

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 19 April 2022 13:47 (two years ago) link

i think she's on the title track, too?

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 19 April 2022 14:29 (two years ago) link

looking on Tidal, she has co-credits on both those songs

I should probably bump the hyped releases diss thread now that there's a 5-star review to complain about rather than my fellow ilxors' opinions, but I would really love for that Guardian reviewer to draw me a diagram explaining how this album sounds anything like World Galaxy

rob, Tuesday, 19 April 2022 15:31 (two years ago) link

World Galaxy comparison is a BIG reach, as is A Rainbow In Curved Air

a few of the comments compare it to Atom Heart Mother which i didn't really get from it either.

stirmonster, Tuesday, 19 April 2022 15:49 (two years ago) link

it sounds like a hans zimmer 2004 score or a massage cd

kurt schwitterz, Tuesday, 19 April 2022 17:21 (two years ago) link

xp i'm glad that alice coltrane is more popular than ever before but the annoying flipside is how lazy writers use her as an automatic touchstone reference anytime they hear a harp

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Tuesday, 19 April 2022 17:33 (two years ago) link

i mean: big string charts with sparse harp passages and quasi-religious chanting. it doesn't sound exactly like any alice coltrane records. but it doesn't sound exactly like any charles stepney records either.

still very reminiscent of both.

(and that's okay. i like all parties involved.)

Let's disco dance, Hammurabi! (Austin), Tuesday, 19 April 2022 17:57 (two years ago) link

Gonna be fun watching music reviewers who don’t know anything about modern classical music or black music tripping over their dicks with this one

Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 19 April 2022 21:29 (two years ago) link

ftr i like this a lot and its cool that sault does whatever tf they want and its free so why complain!? sheesh

kurt schwitterz, Tuesday, 19 April 2022 21:32 (two years ago) link

Yeah, this is cool

Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 19 April 2022 21:35 (two years ago) link

Koyaanisqatsyperbolicsyllabicsesquedalymistic

Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 19 April 2022 21:36 (two years ago) link

I don't see many complaints here tbh, just people acknowledging this isn't their thing, which I don't think is bad.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 19 April 2022 21:36 (two years ago) link

i predict next one will be more esg meets d'angelo and then like a transcendent black metal album. plz venmo chakifunk $10 if im right about this.

kurt schwitterz, Tuesday, 19 April 2022 22:05 (two years ago) link

Good counterpoint to the new Johann Johannsson

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCpCGeKkoRQ

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 20 April 2022 17:47 (two years ago) link

listened again and it's growing on me. also inspired me to go back and listen to some old rotary connection and axelrod, so we're all winners here

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 20 April 2022 17:57 (two years ago) link

otm

Let's disco dance, Hammurabi! (Austin), Wednesday, 20 April 2022 18:17 (two years ago) link

yeah same - I tried again and I guess I went in with a different mindset, not bad

TWELVE Michelob stars?!? (seandalai), Wednesday, 20 April 2022 21:30 (two years ago) link

Not into this at all. Fitting that Pitchfork finally gave them a BNM for this.

Indexed, Thursday, 21 April 2022 20:41 (two years ago) link

i like choral music and contemporary classical and i don't really like this very much

oh well, different strokes!

sean gramophone, Friday, 22 April 2022 03:33 (two years ago) link

Is This Sault?

Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 April 2022 03:35 (two years ago) link

Not into this at all. Fitting that Pitchfork finally gave them a BNM for this.

― Indexed

Lol, I don’t follow pitchfork actively but this is somewhat hilarious. It’s the only Sault album I wouldn’t recommend to someone as an introduction to them… hopefully most people reading pitchfork were already familiar with them.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 22 April 2022 06:08 (two years ago) link

It feels like a consolation prize. “Hey sorry we slept on this project’s amazing run of albums in the past years, here’s a BNM to make up for it”

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 22 April 2022 06:12 (two years ago) link

They did review two others…

begrudgingly bound by duty of candor (morrisp), Friday, 22 April 2022 06:18 (two years ago) link

Untitled albums got reviewed like 7 months after they came out - possibly for reader’s eoy lists? It was a strange move to release a review so many months later… no idea the reasoning behind it - And neither got BNM.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 22 April 2022 15:23 (two years ago) link

I so would like to at least, see Cleo perform live sometime. I keep checking her website but to no avail. sadface

― Swanswans, Tuesday, April 5, 2022 11:35 PM (one month ago)

!!!

Hiiiii my first headline show in London 🇬🇧
Tickets go on sale tomorrow at 10am
Looking forward to seeing all your beautiful faces ☺️ pic.twitter.com/v0NihwP0ef

— Cleo (@cleosol) May 5, 2022

groovypanda, Thursday, 5 May 2022 11:13 (one year ago) link

Thanks for the tip! I have high expectations for this one.

mmmm, Friday, 6 May 2022 09:25 (one year ago) link

Luos Higher made me think of Biophilia (Moon / Solstice) and is the track that stood out for me

Nabozo, Friday, 6 May 2022 11:37 (one year ago) link

amazing, except I'm not in London, hives me hope she'll do a European tour tho

Swanswans, Friday, 6 May 2022 16:03 (one year ago) link

This new single's a Cleo Sol cowrite

https://davisgalvin.bandcamp.com/track/loved

Ned Raggett, Friday, 6 May 2022 23:42 (one year ago) link

'Barry' on HBO used "Foot On Necks" as the over-credits track on the newest episode. Hope a lot of people Shazam'ed them...

Soundslike, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 00:53 (one year ago) link


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