NINA NASTASIA

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Fucking hell, guess she already played NYC.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 14 April 2022 17:59 (two years ago) link

Just her and a guitar, had the whole room in the palm of her hand

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 14 April 2022 18:00 (two years ago) link

Do you know what that song is called?

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 14 April 2022 18:05 (two years ago) link

No she didn't say any song titles before she played, wish I would have thought to try go take a pic of the setlist

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 14 April 2022 18:10 (two years ago) link

guess I gotta wait until july. I'm such a sucker for that type of Irish/American plains type sad unaccompanied ballad

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 14 April 2022 18:14 (two years ago) link

Hope she's going to tour again after the release, seems weird to tour in support of a new album three months before it's available

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 14 April 2022 18:15 (two years ago) link

she mentioned that mogwai just asked her and she said yes, seemed like maybe more of a life thing than a marketing thing given where she's coming from, but like i said i'm more much more hopeful that this won't be the last chance i had to see her which is sort of how i went into it

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 14 April 2022 18:20 (two years ago) link

Thanks for popping in to share that. Glad to hear it!

Evan, Thursday, 14 April 2022 19:07 (two years ago) link

Thanks for sharing this, she sounds really incredible, voice very strong.

JifMoose, Thursday, 14 April 2022 20:09 (two years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Discovered something ... interesting. The release on Bandcamp has a preview of the tracklisting - but it's too low resolution to make out the lyrics. But it seems their image server can be persuaded to serve up a high-resolution version which is quite readable. For example - I can see the beautiful acapella track UMS shared above isn't on the new album (so double thanks for posting it).

Here's the low resolution image - does anyone want me to post the high resolution one (or is it too spoiler-y)?

https://f4.bcbits.com/img/0028472930_10.jpg

JifMoose, Monday, 9 May 2022 00:05 (one year ago) link

New This is Love song released on Bandcamp - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB2AyI_bCi0

JifMoose, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 23:27 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB2AyI_bCi0

JifMoose, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 23:28 (one year ago) link

sad story.

does anyone know what the canadian band she's working with is?

sean gramophone, Friday, 13 May 2022 04:10 (one year ago) link

I've registered here just to say thanks to you all. This thread has been the most comprehensive resource online for Nina's limited activity this past decade. All that stuff about Kim Deal and the 2016 art show and the Daniel Knox collaboration was news to me, so thanks.

As ecstatic as I am that Nina is releasing a new album, a lot of these recent developments have been heartbreaking. I was in contact with Kennan via email for about a year from mid-2011 or so. Like a lot of email pen-pals, our conversations just naturally ran their course, to the point where there was nothing left for us to say to one another. But the guy was hilarious. He would often interject our conversations with random asides that would genuinely have me in stitches. I mean... he was filthy AF, but there was never anything mean about what he said. Other than the black humour, he seemed gentle and kind, and appreciative of my work elsewhere. I really grew to like him, and for that brief time considered him a friend. All this stuff... it's been a lot to process, you know?

Anyway, as a thanks to everyone here, I've uploaded a goody on YouTube for anyone who's interested. This is Nina's solo April 2012 gig at Whelan's in Dublin, Ireland. Her last full gig for a decade, before her tour with Mogwai. It's audio only.

Here's the link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFu0psZCd7E

It's Nina acoustic, so it's a fairly "quiet" gig. I genuinely don't think the sound guy had that tiny amp turned on most of the show. If it was on, it was set at a minimal volume. There was an obnoxiously creaky door that the staff occasionally used, and you can sometimes hear the sound of the barman loudly opening glass bottles, and during the very quiet moments in-between songs you can hear the distant thumping of idiotic dance music from the bar next door... but aside from all that, the sound is fine. ;)

There's only one truly previously unreleased song performed. That song is called "Marry Me", which I uploaded it separately for your convenience:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q49ZZCoX7WQ

Sorry for rambling. Hope you all enjoy the bootleg. Best wishes.

Homeostasis, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 01:49 (one year ago) link

thank you so much for posting and for sharing, Homeostasis.

sean gramophone, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 01:51 (one year ago) link

That's awesome, thanks!

And condolences and sympathies are for everything with Kennan. That is a lot to process.

Really great, thanks so much for posting these Homeostasis. For years I had the tune of "Marry Me" rattling around in my head - I saw Nina performing it as an opener to a gig in Bristol in 2010, but of course couldn't find it anywhere. It says something that the songs are so striking that years later "come now and come quickly" is immediately recognisable.

Nina performed some of these songs on a small set at the Electrical Audio anniversary back in 2017. The recordings have disappeared from youtube, but I've got them downloaded - I can load them back up if people are interested.

JifMoose, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 09:15 (one year ago) link

Thank you so much you guys for posting the live songs by Nina .they are flipping amazing. It’s kinda incredible that she has so many songs floating about not captured on record. I’ve been a fan since the blackened air was on the virgin listening post. Ugly face from peel acres was when the penny dropped.I’ve been devoted ever since. Like all you I was overjoyed when I heard the news of Nina’s return but also sad when I heard the news of what happened. I’ve caught her many times in uk always incredible …except the famous gig where her guitar was fucked up …

It’s amazing how Nina has been so honest in recent interviews about her like and I just feel bad the I had no idea how much she had suffered for the music and been really broke sometimes ..anyway really hope she comes to uk

Also I’m really interested to hear so many people with reservations about Mogwai ….in uk they get universal adoration from press and punters alike but I find them boring in the most part.lol

Again thanks for posting the live Nina stuff and here’s to the new album

David, Wednesday, 1 June 2022 19:31 (one year ago) link

Jif moose please upload any other songs you have mate 🙏🙏🙏🙏😇

David, Wednesday, 1 June 2022 19:32 (one year ago) link

Hi David, no problem - I've been digging through my hard drive and come up with these couple of interview/performances, which I don't think are available anywhere online any more. No totally new songs, but another rendition of "Where We Go", which was unreleased.

First one is from the now defunct RockFeedback TV back in 2010, mostly stuff from Outlaster, performing 4 songs with Matt Szemela:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0DAPjKXa78

Looking back I was amazed to see the other one actually discussed on this thread way back in 2012 - looks like MaresNest worked on engineering it. This is the Arctic Circle radio (on Resonance FM) - very interesting interview this, and lovely performances:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-03Z2BOfbM

JifMoose, Monday, 6 June 2022 22:07 (one year ago) link

Oh look, it's my old studio. Yeah, I engineered that.

That was a fabulous day, they both stayed on afterward. I bought a bottle of whisky for Nina as a thank you and we all hung out for a few hours sipping with her and Kennan.

Maresn3st, Monday, 6 June 2022 23:06 (one year ago) link

Wow thanks MaresNest, it's a great recording

JifMoose, Monday, 6 June 2022 23:20 (one year ago) link

I think I have the songs somewhere in the archive I created, if you'd like them without the compression.

Maresn3st, Monday, 6 June 2022 23:23 (one year ago) link

Oh yes - that would be really fantastic. Very much appreciated!

JifMoose, Monday, 6 June 2022 23:25 (one year ago) link

XP to David, I wonder if the gig where her guitar fucked up was at Cafe Oto, it was a super warm day and the side door was open to her left to let cool air in and there was a dyson fan on top of the piano on her right and coupled with the humidity it was playing merry hell with the guitar's tuning.

My mate went to see her play the day after our Arctic Circle session and said she was a bit all over the place and I kinda got the blame for buying her the bottle of whisky the day before (our session was on a weekend afternoon). I remember Kennan jokingly saying, 'Go easy, you're gonna be drunk as shit'

Maresn3st, Monday, 6 June 2022 23:41 (one year ago) link

Hi I remember she was good at cafe oto .it was very hot I remember .I also saw her at a private gig she did above a pub just for fat cat subscribers. Again amazing . The gig where the guitar was all off was definitely with Jim white. And his drums were too loud ….members of the audience tuned the guitar but to no avail…. I saw her at the bush hall in London and we all sat on the floor and it was like some school assembly and she was the most talented music teacher

David, Thursday, 9 June 2022 19:57 (one year ago) link

Jiffmoose thank you so much for uploading these ..great interviews …I tuned into resonance to here her …wonderful stuff

David, Thursday, 9 June 2022 19:58 (one year ago) link

That interviewer looks smitten makes me smile .. maresnest I think the gig where nina guitar failed was the scala in London

David, Thursday, 9 June 2022 20:03 (one year ago) link

members of the audience tuned the guitar but to no avail

This has always been my gig dream - artist I love having trouble with a guitar and I’m all like “step aside, I know how to adjust the truss rod”

assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 9 June 2022 20:57 (one year ago) link

Well I just heard the new song afterwards and it’s wonderful , sad ,and honest ,

David, Tuesday, 14 June 2022 18:54 (one year ago) link

Cheers David - enjoy!

JifMoose, Tuesday, 14 June 2022 23:35 (one year ago) link

Wow, yeah that new song is quite something

JifMoose, Tuesday, 14 June 2022 23:37 (one year ago) link

There's a good-sized new interview on Stereogum - https://www.stereogum.com/2189722/nina-nastasia-riderless-horse/music/

JifMoose, Wednesday, 15 June 2022 22:15 (one year ago) link

Great interview. Glad Nina is loving life and looking to the future ….

David, Thursday, 16 June 2022 21:39 (one year ago) link

I never looked for biographical details during her 00s run, and maybe they weren't available - this interview makes it sound like she didn't share much before.

I'm finding it really heavy to learn this backstory. I had no idea the records were such a collaboration. As I learn that Gudjonsson contributed so much but with problematic intensity, that beloved run of albums suddenly feels much different, like a weird reveal in a plot-heavy movie. The blackened air, the small rooms, the details of hurt feel much less metaphorical, much closer to the means that created the tracks. I'd taken her storytelling to be a reflection of memory, since she wasn't young when she started recording. But it sounds like the suffocation and survival instinct was active as the songs were created. That they edited and refined such personal narratives together shows this frightening self-awareness of the relationship. I guess that explains how the albums could be coal black without being despairing - the music was the cause and the solution to the controlling and obsession.

bendy, Friday, 17 June 2022 14:03 (one year ago) link

Hi bendy great post you pretty much said it for me .I feel I was naïve. I thought here’s this lovely lady singing amazingly with such a happy relationship .it’s hard to live with a perfectionist .and someone so critical that you stop making music altogether just to keep the peace..Nina has been candid like never before and it’s now it’s going to be weird listening to those songs again knowing what we know.. weirdly. I didn’t love the last album I thought it was too heavy handed on the orchestration. Anyway the new stuff sounds good ..I really think the best will come in a few years ..just hope she keeps making music. Lord knows it’s hard to make a living from it …

David, Friday, 17 June 2022 17:11 (one year ago) link

Getting some great press with this record.

It looks like there's something in the new issue of Uncut. The website just says "Nina Nastasia: Album by album with the Californian songwriter." I assume that means a feature/interview where Nina gives talks about all her previous records. Will pick it up if I see it somewhere.
https://www.uncut.co.uk/publications/magazines/uncut-august-2022-138845/

Also an interview with the Italian version of Rolling Stone:
https://www.rollingstone.it/musica/interviste-musica/nina-nastasia-musica-dopo-un-trauma/643516/

There's not much we haven't read in the English interviews with The Guardian and Stereogum. Main take away was a paragraph about Nina's first tour, I'm assuming from after the release of Dogs but the writer doesn't say when, so it could've been the 90s. Nina wanted to do a solo acoustic tour, but Kennan was adamant she tour big venues with a 9-piece band, and the whole thing ended up costing over $30k. She was playing catch-up from the start. Sounds awful.

Also, according to Rolling Stone Italy, the album is completely acoustic: just Nina and her guitar. The last track on the record, "Creek and Chimes", is "the sound of running water". And the album wasn't recorded at Electrical Audio, but "in a kind of water tower, a beautiful circular building in New York that is also a guest house owned by a friend of mine, with a magnificent spiral staircase that goes all the way to the top."

Hope Sandoval's last album was also recorded in a circular building, one of the Martello Towers in Dublin. There's something about that environment that creats really beautiful audio dynamics: the sound just reverberates gently off the walls back in to the microphone. Naturally very church-y sounding, and sounds beautiful on headphones. Can't wait to hear it.

Homeostasis, Tuesday, 21 June 2022 23:13 (one year ago) link

Thanks homeostasis. We have two Martello towers where I live .when I was young and a stoner me and my mates use to plan to buy one and turn it into a arts centre and venue….that was the plan until we came down then promptly forgot all about it. First time I saw Nina was with the full band orchestra early on and it . Sorry it skinted her …but it was awesome…it was when she toured the blackened air and every detail was lovingly reproduced…I. Was very impressed.
I can’t wait for the album ..I guess we will see …I’m happy with her and an acoustic…but it would be a shame if that was how it would be from now on which I doubt. I really liked that band sound she had going . I will try and track down the uncut magazine

David, Wednesday, 22 June 2022 15:14 (one year ago) link

I doubt she'll be entirely acoustic from now on. That's not the impression I'm getting from the interviews anyway. Maybe it's the Guardian one where the interviewer says something about the songs being "stark" and Nina responds along the lines of "that's just how these songs needed to be". Which makes sense, considering the background and lyrical subject matter. I'm pretty sure with one call, every one of the musicians who appeared on her first 6 records would be more than happy to drop everything they're doing to record another one.

I was never lucky enough to see Nina live with a full band. I came across a preview of "Stormy Weather" on a lyrics site called Always On The Run back in 2005, and was immediately hooked. I saw her live in Dublin twice since then. At the Crawdaddy in 2008, I think, and at Whelan's in 2012. Both acoustic, and fantastic. If she does tour Europe with this record, it'll probably be acoustic too. I doubt we've seen the last of her performing with a band though.

Homeostasis, Wednesday, 22 June 2022 22:37 (one year ago) link

three weeks pass...

One week to go ….it’s very exciting

David, Friday, 15 July 2022 16:31 (one year ago) link

Five star review in Mojo - https://archive.org/details/mojo-augest-2022/page/88/mode/2up?view=theater

JifMoose, Saturday, 16 July 2022 12:33 (one year ago) link

Another nice review in The Skinny! https://www.theskinny.co.uk/music/reviews/albums/nina-nastasia-riderless-horse

The Uncut article is really interesting - lots of new things (at least I hadn't heard at all) about the earlier albums:

At the start of recording, we were having trouble getting “Nobody Knew Her” to sound great. And Steve said, “I have a suggestion. Everybody take your balls out.” So everybody did, and that was the take we used.

The song that I’m most proud of is “Stormy Weather” ... the lyric writing, how it gets across certain things that I grew up with – my mother, and her illness [Nastasia’s mother died when she was 18]. She would go through cortisone psychosis due to the steroid medications she took for her lung condition. Some of those episodes were quite scary – there was a moment where she pulled me out of the shower and said, “Oh, my God, the house is on fire,” or she’d be talking on the phone and nobody was there.

JifMoose, Wednesday, 20 July 2022 00:05 (one year ago) link

Thanks so much for these articles …I learned so much …I’m very happy she wants to come back to uk to play some shows…

David, Wednesday, 20 July 2022 22:43 (one year ago) link

No worries - I've never seen her have so much press! There's a long interview in Line of best fit today: https://www.thelineofbestfit.com/features/interviews/nina-nastasia-in-conversation

JifMoose, Thursday, 21 July 2022 12:30 (one year ago) link

I'm glad she's getting so much attention, even if part of it is obviously the horrific backstory. But she sounds so good and centered in talking about it. I hope the experience of being out playing the songs over and over isn't too painful. Hopefully it's mostly cathartic.

Another from the Independent - https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/reviews/nina-nastasia-review-riderless-horse-b2127384.html. Reading this I'm embarrassed to admit I never realised it was Kennan on the cover of Dogs. That's some face-blindness, I don't know who I thought it was!

JifMoose, Thursday, 21 July 2022 22:45 (one year ago) link

Probably one for the Things you were shockingly old when you learned thread, actually

JifMoose, Thursday, 21 July 2022 22:53 (one year ago) link


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