Star Trek: Picard

I cannot imagine these series (Disco & Picard) being appealing to newcomers to the franchise.

I just watched two early, generic DS9 eps in a row — one where Dax trains a floppy-haired 90s Trill with Chandler Bing’s voice, and one where Quark’s old Cardassian girlfriend turns up — and the characters have such soul and depth and wit. I miss that! That dissonance - that’s always been there - between the depth of feeling and the corniness of the presentation - seems even more pronounced, watching them now alongside the new shows.

a major problem i have with this show is that @sirpatstew's solution to playing picard-when-old is being @OLDsirpatstew and just playing picard and i don't think it works

"he has an unstable arhythmia, his heart's all over the place"
"what does that mean?"
"it means he's in the middle of a major cardiac event"

thanks doc

lmao

Nice twisty little nugget was Dr. Jemison being paged, who is almost surely Mae Jemison, real-life astronaut inspired to become one by TOS and later had a cameo on TNG.

Also, Seven has had experiences with Q(s).

Hahah yeah at the Jemison moment, I was all "Hey wait, is she in this?"

was that a tesla that soong used to run over picard?

presumably by 2024 everyone just shrugs when a tesla runs over a pedestrian due to the frequency

lol the entire franchise is now contorted to establish musk as someone who matters in its own past history

they shd go back in time and kill baby elon (he's a baby however old he is)

or we can sit in on jlp's therapy session 🙄

this deep space narnia shit is childishly bad sorry if this offends

omg this is boring garbage

the ending of this episode was so pointless and annoying

i liked the rest of it for the most part but just like, boring contrived earth shenanigans to drag the earth stuff out & fracture the group as much as possible interminably is the worst, i hate it every single time unless there are whales involved

dragged-out time spent on earth >>>>>>>>>>>> dragged-out time spent in jlp's MIND AS A CHILD >:(

sorry if thats a spoiler but at least you can don a sleeping cap and get comfy as u watch

https://popicon.life/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/169csbear.jpg

^^^correct posture assumed

dislike james callis

stop wrinkling your forehead at me dude

lol i will always love baltar, i cannot quit him

whatsapp conflab re picard

whatsapper 1: Picard has been enormously divisive amongst ST long term investors
whatsapper 1: And hint is that it is full on sliding to derided
mark s: s1 was a silly mess but it was also reasonably exciting
whatsapper 2: S3 of Picard has had a trail announcing basically all of TNG cast except for Wesley in it
whatsapper 3: I thought TNG was The Night Garden for a second which would be much better. Good old MakkaPakka
mark s: i wonder a bit how much my not enjoying it is bcz i am so very spotty in TNG lore (eg there's possibly a big FIRST CONTACT (1996) callback) (as well as to the whale movie). FIRST CONTACT but its the ppl of the night garden wd be a solid twist tbf

except the ppl of the night garden are 💯the borg

resistance is futile:
https://www.inthenightgarden.co.uk/sites/default/files/styles/teaser_thumbnail/public/0515_itng_web_about_the_show_pinkyponk_retina.jpg

your whatsapp person who thinks Wesley is a character of note in TNG is RONG

I still think he should come back in one of these damn shows though, he's a fucking time traveller now he can come back to any of them!

(and also I do feel bad for how shat on Weaton was by TNG)

Roffle

The big satisfying reveal in Picard is going to be that Dr. Soong based his face on a weird head he dug up in San Francisco.

— Ben Lesnick (@banditloaf) April 22, 2022

raffi sucks so hard. i might even prefer neelix

I don’t MIND her but her whole vibe is Ray Winstone’s character from the fourth Indiana Jones movie, the alleged friend and colleague of many years with a dynamic that forces that issue instead of reflecting it.

i think her being a counterpoint to Seven makes her suckiness even more pronounced

It was kind of dumb, but the scene where Seven tossed a glass bottle on the ground to see what it felt like was funny
‘hmm yeah, that made me feel something. she’s chasing endorphins”

it was but she shd have tossed a second bottle as they left the scene and like shivered or something

maybe at raffi

Q is annoying but he's right abt humans (these ones)

ears pricked up when he said "i prepared myself to be enveloped in the warm glow of memeing" (but he said "meaning", so as you were, the show remains shitpost-free)

Should I bother with this season? Seemed like y’all were into it initially… maybe not so much now

I think if you're willing to stop watching after episode 4, maybe, because that seems to be the traditional shark jumping point.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-0MrEUR9Cy8M/VDhkUiRqkAI/AAAAAAAAIr4/rAqgy0gJUww/s1600/tumblr_ncy76nQdtG1r87tiqo1_500.gif

Not that the script was much help, but this season is at least teaching me that Brent Spiner is not a very good actor, at least when it comes to drama.

ditto sirpatstew imo :(

shouty faustian spiner is ..not great
but i think he’s a good actor normally? having to be a robot for that long surely does something to your sense of the dramatic idk

i feel like oldpatstew is just being old & delivering lines vs being old & being picard & delivering lines

its a bit like he’s going to ask when’s dinner or when will my granddaughter be visiting etc

i feel mean saying that bc i love him

despite everything i still kinda like this season. it’s not driving me to drink like Discovery did with its feelings

How dare you criticize THE FEELS. (This may explain a certain generational split in the fandom I've noticed, but kinda hoping Strange New Worlds is the sop for the rest of us.)

indeed! i am not ashamed to say i am kind of putting all of my hopes on captain pike & crew to do what disco could not. i mean there was so much unpacking they could have charged a per episode copay

we shall see

yeah unfortunately i think sirpatstew may be beyond it at this point. no shame; he is 81 ffs

worried that season 3 will demonstrate that all of them are beyond it

he is 81 ffs

but the paymasters are still willing to cut the cheque and so... excelsior!

Well that was a lot.

why does the BQ consider the word bullshit a "colloquialism", she has assimilated and shares the sensibility of millions who say it all the time

tbf i wd be traumatised if these twits were my parents

"BTW didn't I have a brother?"

I did however appreciate that while I was thinking "Hold on didn't he see his mother in that first season TNG episode?" he then specifically mentions the memories he constructed of her which applied to that very episode.

laris: "think faster jean-luc!"
the viewers: "do everything faster ffs"

ok well that involved a lot of everyone expaining what love is to everyone else

it's grief without perseverance

https://c.tenor.com/I0pX2ENHYlYAAAAC/its-how-you-get-the-army-to-follow-you-my-dear-borg-queen.gif

iirc love has been explained enough already by Alannah Myles

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQOrMzBewG0