Rolling Stones' Goats Head Soup - is it underrated because it came after Exile?

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Goodness or greatness has nothing to do with qualifying for a New Jersey, though.

And plenty of critics think Honkey Chateau, Goodbye Yellow Brick Road, and Captain Fantastic... qualify as good to great albums, incidentally.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 8 April 2022 15:35 (two years ago) link

I was still going by the original post in this revive: "end of a magical run".

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 8 April 2022 15:47 (two years ago) link

Caribou had "Don't Let the Sun Go Down On Me"--which is magical enough for me

Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Friday, 8 April 2022 17:02 (two years ago) link

also Caribou came out 8 months after GYBR, which is ridiculous by today's standards

Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Friday, 8 April 2022 17:04 (two years ago) link

OK, but Goats Head Soup had "Angie", that makes it even more of a match.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 8 April 2022 17:29 (two years ago) link

but Angie sucks

Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Friday, 8 April 2022 17:38 (two years ago) link

yeah

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 8 April 2022 17:40 (two years ago) link

this is maybe a 70s mini-genre of albums where drug fatigue caught up with the artist

This is a significant factor and maybe more what I am going for (cf Presence).

Angie, is awesome wtf.

So time for my Angie story. Girl I went to prom with in HS was named Angie and so I gave her a cassette of GHS even though I didn't know the album. She looked at it and gave it back to me saying, "my last boyfriend gave me this album." I didn't listen to it for 20+ years after that.

reassessing life after bookmarking a Will Smith thread (PBKR), Friday, 8 April 2022 17:42 (two years ago) link

What a heartbreaker!

(Doo doo doo doo doo)

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 8 April 2022 17:48 (two years ago) link

imagine what Amanda went through

Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Friday, 8 April 2022 18:05 (two years ago) link

Coincidentally enough, the first two Elton John albums I bought were Madman Across the Water and Rock of the Westies (which must have been his latest at the time). Talk about a study in contrasts.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 8 April 2022 18:08 (two years ago) link

I suppose you could add Aerosmith's Draw the Line

Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Friday, 8 April 2022 18:08 (two years ago) link

"Draw the Line was untogether because we weren't a cohesive unit anymore," guitarist Joe Perry admitted in the Stephen Davis band memoir Walk This Way. "We were drug addicts dabbling in music, rather than musicians dabbling in drugs.

Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Friday, 8 April 2022 18:10 (two years ago) link

Aerosmith had a run of two great albums--well, okay, two great albums and one almost great album. Admittedly, the two were great fucking albums, but it's been 46 years now.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 8 April 2022 18:19 (two years ago) link

I would argue that every Aerosmith album from the debut through Rock in a Hard Place is at least worth hearing, nothing they've done since has even risen to the level of mediocrity, and some of it is among the worst music ever recorded in English.

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 8 April 2022 18:44 (two years ago) link

Aerosmith was great until they signed with Geffen
Though I would love to hear mid 70s version of “elevator,” that song is great even it *sounds* like sh1t

calstars, Friday, 8 April 2022 18:51 (two years ago) link

Sped up and roughed up around the edges, that tune would kick

calstars, Friday, 8 April 2022 18:54 (two years ago) link

Rats in the Elevator

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 8 April 2022 18:55 (two years ago) link

Yes!

calstars, Friday, 8 April 2022 19:09 (two years ago) link

There's Glitter In Me Cocaine!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOUetwr3h04

Love Charlie's "This Fuckin' Guy Over Here..." reaction cutaways.

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 8 April 2022 19:55 (two years ago) link

^^Which is basically Charlie in all their '70s promos.

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 8 April 2022 19:56 (two years ago) link

End of Prince's magical run (relatively) would be Lovesexy, right?
Also Grateful Dead Wake of the Flood

J. Sam, Friday, 8 April 2022 20:13 (two years ago) link

Love that video. (Love most of the Stones' proto-music videos from the '70s.) Mick Jagger looks like someone's aunt in a lip-sync contest. Mick Taylor looks 14. Bill Wyman looks like he's in Black Sabbath. Charlie Watts looks like he wants to throat-punch everyone else. Keith is...present.

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 8 April 2022 20:18 (two years ago) link

"Hand of Fate" is a banger as well.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 8 April 2022 20:58 (two years ago) link

I'm a afraid Keith is going to spray teeth everywhere every time he steps up to the microphone.

Is Wake of the Flood considered a disappointment?

reassessing life after bookmarking a Will Smith thread (PBKR), Friday, 8 April 2022 21:01 (two years ago) link

I’m listening to this for the first time because of this thread.

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 8 April 2022 21:33 (two years ago) link

What do you think?

reassessing life after bookmarking a Will Smith thread (PBKR), Friday, 8 April 2022 22:18 (two years ago) link

He's probably still asleep.

Phil McCracken (Tom D.), Friday, 8 April 2022 22:22 (two years ago) link

xp With Prince it depends how you think about it. His sales basically declined, album to album, from Purple Rain through Lovesexy, with the cover nude basically cementing the "Prince is Weird" mainstream narrative. His commercial fortunes then actually improved with Batman and Diamonds & Pearls, before another tumble. Artistically it's arguable but I'd venture that many Prince fans think his godlike run definitely includes Lovesexy; if it had a different cover I think fewer people would consider it a falloff.

Freeze Instr., Saturday, 9 April 2022 00:17 (two years ago) link

In Europe he did better during the late '80s than in America, and look at his album hits in England after that.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 9 April 2022 00:25 (two years ago) link

I like Elton John, but he's mostly a singles artist to me - beyond a handful of deep cuts, the only albums I really enjoy as albums are Honky Chateau, Goodbye Yellow Brick Road and Rock of the Westies. I want to say "Sorry Seems to Be the Hardest Word" may be the last memorable single of his "classic" run, even though I don't get the impression many fans like the album it came from. (I don't.)

Prince is a little more complicated because he kind of rebounded a few times, but as a massive Prince fan, I collected "everything" from his self-titled second album all the way to The Truth. (I do have "Soft and Wet" and the title track from For You on a homemade compilation.) But except for The Gold Experience, things were kind of uneven from Lovesexy to the end of that period. He was so prolific that with some pruning those years could've had some rock solid consistency, but you had stuff like Tony M being the weak link in the NPG, soundtracks like Batman and Graffiti Bridge that weren't going to be major works given how they came together, a three-hour album that had at best 90 minutes of great music, etc...

birdistheword, Saturday, 9 April 2022 01:39 (two years ago) link

That's a lot of Elton John to love, actually.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 9 April 2022 01:48 (two years ago) link

It’s pretty good, particular Side B.

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 9 April 2022 02:24 (two years ago) link

xp Except for a few big omissions, I thought To Be Continued was an excellent box set and somewhat underrated - it's almost a perfect Elton John collection, and that's four CD's packed to the brim. Sounds modest compared to the gargantuan sets released now, but for a consistently top shelf career retrospective, four CD's is a lot.

birdistheword, Saturday, 9 April 2022 02:39 (two years ago) link

I just realized I misread "That's" as "There's" hah...yes, guilty as charged!

birdistheword, Saturday, 9 April 2022 02:40 (two years ago) link

Is Wake of the Flood considered a disappointment?

The release fared better on the pop charts than their previous studio album (1970's American Beauty), reaching No. 18.[7]

ass time permits (morrisp), Saturday, 9 April 2022 02:56 (two years ago) link

it's worth it for "winter" & "coming down again" & most of the rest is ok.
lots of people (critics, anyway) say "listen to the music" & "dancing with mr d" are rotten, right? i like both those. "angie" is very bad tho, turn off the radio time.

the coming of prince kajagoogoo (doo rag), Saturday, 9 April 2022 20:26 (two years ago) link

When the guitar riff first appears by itself in the opening of "Dancing with Mr. D," it's pretty awesome. The lyrics get a lot flak, but they were kind of hard to make out - I didn't even know what Jagger was singing until I read a lyric sheet.

"Winter" is pretty nice - I think Glyn Johns loves that track more than anything else on the album - and Billy Preston is especially good on "Coming Down Again."

birdistheword, Saturday, 9 April 2022 21:49 (two years ago) link

Been digging on this cover. It's such a stomper. Sorry back to the soup...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYvYrN6sxaA

Heartbreaker is some legit 70s funk. Maybe it's the lyrics but you know that Jagger was trying to get Superfly as f on that tune. It sounds like it should be in some lost NY exploitation crime movie with Robert Blake and Roy Schieder. It would be the theme to the 70s @ Satriale's

earlnash, Sunday, 10 April 2022 03:21 (two years ago) link

Roy Schieder as a young uncle Junior. That would kick ass.

earlnash, Sunday, 10 April 2022 03:21 (two years ago) link

Billy Preston is especially good on "Coming Down Again."

...so good he steals the credit from Nicky Hopkins!

Halfway there but for you, Sunday, 10 April 2022 04:24 (two years ago) link

Jesus, I mixed it up with "100 Years Ago" (which ALSO has Hopkins, but I'm thinking specifically of Preston on the clavinet).

birdistheword, Sunday, 10 April 2022 04:38 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

HIDIN IN A CORNER IN NU YORK SITTY
LOOKIN DOWN A 44 IN WEST VIRGINNY

ꙮ (map), Sunday, 17 March 2024 21:07 (one month ago) link

"Winter" is a jam.

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 17 March 2024 21:55 (one month ago) link

Sometimes I wanna wrap my coat around ya

brimstead, Monday, 18 March 2024 00:58 (one month ago) link

other times I worry you'll stain it

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 18 March 2024 00:59 (one month ago) link

"Winter" is a jam.


like “sway” and “moonlight mile,” a Jagger/Taylor joint. what might have been…

poster of sparks (rogermexico.), Sunday, 31 March 2024 23:47 (three weeks ago) link

I don’t hear the half magic in “winter” that I do in the other two

calstars, Monday, 1 April 2024 00:05 (three weeks ago) link


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