why don’t you drive an EV?

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I wanna test drive a Mach-E and nobody has any

Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 3 April 2022 19:39 (two years ago) link

My state has 2,000 all-electric vehicles on the road.... and 34,000 Chevy Silverados.

pplains, Sunday, 3 April 2022 21:33 (two years ago) link

Soon you'll be able to have both:

https://www.chevrolet.com/electric/silverado-ev

Lee626, Sunday, 3 April 2022 22:54 (two years ago) link

hott

call all destroyer, Monday, 4 April 2022 00:20 (two years ago) link

kachow

class project pat (m bison), Monday, 4 April 2022 00:31 (two years ago) link

Couple of notes on Mach-E ordering...

Check out the "No ADM (Additional Dealer Markup) Dealer List" thread on Mach-E Forum. Don't even consider going to a dealer that's not on the list as you're just going to waste your time and money.

If you're in the USA, once you reserve an order online spend the $30 to join the Mustang Club of America. After 90 days of membership you'll qualify for X-Plan pricing from Ford. Depending upon what state you live in, X-Plan can get you up to $2500 off of MSRP along with some additional discounts. Here in CA, I got the max MSPR reduction along with all my DMV fees waived - a big savings!

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 4 April 2022 00:40 (two years ago) link

love a good deal, love it more when i learn about it from the forums

class project pat (m bison), Monday, 4 April 2022 00:41 (two years ago) link

Also, check to see if the Ford Options lease program is available in your state. Even if you were planning on just paying for the car outright, the program gets you a $2500 reduction on the total price. Even if you pay it off in the following month it is still advantageous.

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 4 April 2022 01:10 (two years ago) link

Cool!

reassessing life after bookmarking a Will Smith thread (PBKR), Monday, 4 April 2022 02:04 (two years ago) link

Introducing the newest #EV face in the family, the #GenesisXSpeedium Coupe. Take a sneak peek at what the future holds for us.#GENESIS #GenesisX #ConceptCar #GenesisHouse #NewYork #CarDesign #CarPhotography pic.twitter.com/BWmsM6iavR

— Hyundai Motor Group (@HMGnewsroom) April 14, 2022

, Friday, 15 April 2022 17:55 (two years ago) link

gross

Tracer Hand, Friday, 15 April 2022 22:06 (two years ago) link

Mercedes EQXX breaks 1000km on a single charge
https://www.caranddriver.com/features/a39714749/mercedes-benz-eqxx-621-mile-road-trip/

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 16 April 2022 08:11 (two years ago) link

I think EVs were already supposed to hold their value better bc of fewer wear and tear issues, but yeah that's still wild

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Sunday, 17 April 2022 05:08 (one year ago) link

that’s true about the motor, but EV batteries project to hold their capacity for about 8 years iirc so buying a 3-yo EV with 20K miles on it feels like… you’re getting a lot less for your money? idgi

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 17 April 2022 07:57 (one year ago) link

Most EVs come with an 8 year performance warranty on their batteries. Warranties are conservative because manufacturers don’t want to pay out. Range will be down but you won’t have a dead car.

Manufacturers are stuffing unnecessary extra range in, to keep prices up, so in 8 years you’ll still have more than you need.

American Fear of Scampos (Ed), Sunday, 17 April 2022 09:40 (one year ago) link

that’s good to know.

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 17 April 2022 10:51 (one year ago) link

think i read youll lose 2-3% capacity a year, so eight years ~20% its not nothing but its not like the car wont work

lag∞n, Sunday, 17 April 2022 12:01 (one year ago) link

when i was researching last year abt this, this has been a trend for a lot of ppl who buy the prius primes already bc they get so many rebates/tax credits in some states that they could buy a new prius for under $20k, then would turn around and flip for a new year's model the next year with profit. i've had my car for a year and i could likely sell mine in this market for $7-8k more than what i paid for it.

class project pat (m bison), Sunday, 17 April 2022 13:43 (one year ago) link

Spotted in Denver. Talk about a sea change moment. pic.twitter.com/7bCHe7aduV

— Cresten Mansfeldt (@drmansfeldt) April 16, 2022

Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 17 April 2022 20:38 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFHvq-8np1o

Punster McPunisher, Saturday, 30 April 2022 05:49 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/vw-id-buzz-price-electric-van/

, Thursday, 19 May 2022 15:44 (one year ago) link

ugly as sin & far too expensive

like a schick razor married a cuisinart

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 19 May 2022 16:13 (one year ago) link

https://www.atlasevhub.com/weekly_digest/the-march-continues/

sales on the west coast approaching 20%

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 19:15 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

just talking to a guy from a big european car maker who says flatly that level 5 autonomous driving will never exist

Tracer Hand, Monday, 13 June 2022 14:16 (one year ago) link

he says level 4 will, and will save a lot of lives if it's done right

Tracer Hand, Monday, 13 June 2022 14:16 (one year ago) link

but we're still very far from level 3 at the moment

Tracer Hand, Monday, 13 June 2022 14:17 (one year ago) link

check back in five years for him to tell you level 4 will never exist

lag∞n, Monday, 13 June 2022 15:01 (one year ago) link

coding horror... i havent heard that name in a long time

lag∞n, Monday, 13 June 2022 15:04 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

Almost exactly 90 days later after purchasing the Mach-E, I received my check from the California state clean energy program - $4500 thank you for giving up the gas burner. Yay! It all gets redirected to Ford Credit.

Meanwhile, the recall notice (see: "Ford Mustang Mach-E Electric Vehicles Recalled for Power Loss While Driving") has unsurprisingly kicked over an anthill of fear, uncertainty, and doubt on the forums and subreddits. One class-action lawsuit is already in progress and everyone is taking sides. Hilariously, Mach-E internet fandom has acronymed the issue to - - - HVBJB. You may know it stands for High Voltage Battery Junction Box, but as for the rest of the internet? Neither NASA nor the CIA ever had a KICKME program, but saying it right now may just quantumly invoke into being a file inside some cabinet somewhere in sub-level 8 in a disused but fortified office building.

The OTA update mentioned in the Consumer Reports link doesn't really solve the issue, it only improves the fail-state conditions to something more graceful. The word seems that Ford will swap out the low-tolerance *ahem* HVBJBs on the GTs, so I'm keeping my fingers crossed. Mach-E Internet has already ID'ed the Ford part number for the beefier HVBJB, documented getting it done at the dealership, etc.

I *think* my driving habits won't invoke the problem. I don't really fast charge. I mostly just plug-in into my 110 level 1 at home or at the free level 2 in downtown Pasadena. Protip: open up PlugShare and filter for >50 kWh and uncheck Show Pay Locations.

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 14 July 2022 06:37 (one year ago) link

F-150 Lightning Internet Fandom highly recommend that potential Lightning buyers get the max towing package. Even if you have no plans you tow anything, the extra cooling/warming hardware for the battery is worth the cost.

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 14 July 2022 06:49 (one year ago) link

Meanwhile if you can wait and check your need for giant F-150, there are signs of an electric Maverick truck on the way.

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 14 July 2022 06:58 (one year ago) link

a ranger EV too as i understand it

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Thursday, 14 July 2022 15:46 (one year ago) link

4k used EV credit?

The deal includes a methane fee and a 4K tax credit for the purchase of used EVs, among other provisions per two Dems familiar with the agreement https://t.co/pUr9Bd56Rr

— Marianne LeVine (@marianne_levine) July 27, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 27 July 2022 23:59 (one year ago) link

From that article about the Merc that did over a thousands k's on a single charge:

"The roof-mounted solar panel is fashioned from a lightweight composite."

How come EVs don't all have solar? Seems like the most obvious thing ever. Most have rooves that look like solar panels anyway.

Bellend Sebastian (S-), Saturday, 30 July 2022 06:55 (one year ago) link

you mean the transparent glass? There were designs to coat glass with absorbers/re-emitters that would guide to the edge and be absorbed by cells there.

look like Farley smoke like Marley (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 30 July 2022 07:50 (one year ago) link

I googled, pretty interesting analysis here

https://www.solarquotes.com.au/blog/electric-cars-solar-roofs/

Bellend Sebastian (S-), Saturday, 30 July 2022 08:16 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

Dodge debuts a Charger Daytona SRT EV concept. I guess I appreciate the effort to make a Hot Wheels car, but I already pre-hate and mock the loudspeaker engine noise.

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 18 August 2022 04:53 (one year ago) link

there it is

California air regulators are expected Thursday to issue stringent rules to ban the sale of new gasoline cars by 2035 https://t.co/qW5hl4xRcD

— CNN (@CNN) August 24, 2022

lag∞n, Wednesday, 24 August 2022 22:05 (one year ago) link

whole industry is now free to step on the... accelerator

lag∞n, Wednesday, 24 August 2022 22:17 (one year ago) link

I think this is going to piss off some people even though CA flexing their muscle is not new in this area.

Abel Ferrara hard-sci-fi elevator pitch (PBKR), Wednesday, 24 August 2022 23:07 (one year ago) link

good

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 25 August 2022 07:35 (one year ago) link

in a global context this is not super weird. the EU ban comes in 2035. and the uk will actually be 5 years earlier. car companies are already preparing for this.

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 25 August 2022 07:38 (one year ago) link

For sure.

Abel Ferrara hard-sci-fi elevator pitch (PBKR), Thursday, 25 August 2022 11:16 (one year ago) link

(another good trend in CA that's been happening in plain sight)

California cities ban new gas stations in battle to combat climate change

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 25 August 2022 20:43 (one year ago) link

whoa

Few realize how explosive the growth of EVs has been in China in the last 24 months. EVs now account for 26% of all car sales, up from just 3.5% in Q1 2020.

Below is a short 🧵 on this highly consequential revolution. (1/8)

Cc: @Noahpinion @ramez @JesseJenkins @paulg @erikbryn pic.twitter.com/t0UCBiemPo

— Science Is Strategic (@scienceisstrat1) August 30, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 30 August 2022 20:03 (one year ago) link

usa: i guess well adopt evs to help the environment in like ten years
china: we will adopt evs now for business reasons

lag∞n, Tuesday, 30 August 2022 20:15 (one year ago) link

you can only tip your cap

lag∞n, Tuesday, 30 August 2022 20:25 (one year ago) link


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