well we still got agent johnson as elrond, to be fair.
― Bobkate Goldtwat (darraghmac), Thursday, 23 July 2009 23:42 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah Viggo's some perfect casting, they lucked out with him. Actually they lucked out with most of the casting really, I can't recall anyone who's certifiably bad. John Rhys Davies maybe.
― girlish in the worst sense of that term (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 23 July 2009 23:43 (fourteen years ago) link
blanchett!
― Bobkate Goldtwat (darraghmac), Thursday, 23 July 2009 23:45 (fourteen years ago) link
i don't think there's a single bad performance in the trilogy. gimli could have been played as more than what he mostly was (comic relief) but considering everything he was fine.
― "he said...all things passantino the night" (omar little), Thursday, 23 July 2009 23:45 (fourteen years ago) link
aragorn in the rankin/bass 'return of the king'
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a3/ROTKTVAragorn.jpg
― "he said...all things passantino the night" (omar little), Thursday, 23 July 2009 23:46 (fourteen years ago) link
Just imagine if John Rhys Meyers instead of John Rhys-Davies had played Gimli.
― Heric E. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 July 2009 23:47 (fourteen years ago) link
no way she's perfect - her freakout at the magic mirror scene is awesome
― girlish in the worst sense of that term (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 23 July 2009 23:47 (fourteen years ago) link
Denethor kind of sucked in the third movie, he should've been more like how he is in the book
― same dog, different leg action (Mr Raif), Thursday, 23 July 2009 23:49 (fourteen years ago) link
her freakout at the magic mirror scene is awesome
i defend to the death your right to say it, etc etc but this was cringeworthy overacting.
― Bobkate Goldtwat (darraghmac), Thursday, 23 July 2009 23:52 (fourteen years ago) link
i think the cringey shit was more special effects-based.
― "he said...all things passantino the night" (omar little), Friday, 24 July 2009 00:01 (fourteen years ago) link
(with that specific scene)
Showing him already collapsed rather than on the verge of it was a telescoping for sure. (There's the bit in the extra footage of Two Towers that's as close as we'll get to that.) But John Noble did pretty well with the part as written, and the whole dismissal of Faramir/obsessive eating/"Can you sing, master Hobbit?" part is on point, as was that last defiant sneer and flinging of the torch onto the pyre. All of which was sadly undermined by the 'I can flyyyyyyyyy!' bit, admittedly.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 July 2009 00:04 (fourteen years ago) link
i liked sean bean basically reprising his role from ronin
― julien schNAGL (s1ocki), Friday, 24 July 2009 00:06 (fourteen years ago) link
i felt there was more of his trevlyan from goldeneye in it, tbh. but he was pretty good, surprisingly.
― Bobkate Goldtwat (darraghmac), Friday, 24 July 2009 00:07 (fourteen years ago) link
i dunno, the whole "big man on campus in over his head" thing is straight outta ronin imo
― "he said...all things passantino the night" (omar little), Friday, 24 July 2009 00:09 (fourteen years ago) link
along with the couple of scenes where he's sonned by the elder, cooler compatriot
it's straight outta sean bean in hollywood, imo
― Bobkate Goldtwat (darraghmac), Friday, 24 July 2009 00:10 (fourteen years ago) link
i just ambushed you with a cup of mead
― julien schNAGL (s1ocki), Friday, 24 July 2009 00:13 (fourteen years ago) link
The first one because it has the least egregious use of Liv Tyler and her non-acting pout.
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 24 July 2009 00:29 (fourteen years ago) link
I spent a weekend a few months ago watching the extended versions of all these, back to back, and I want to do it again. These are SO GOOD.
I think they threw in Liv Tyler to give moviegoers an opportunity for safe bathroom breaks.
― bad-boy cartographer (Abbott), Friday, 24 July 2009 02:20 (fourteen years ago) link
I've seen Fellowship and The Two Towers a good amount and prefer Two Towers. I only saw Return of the King once...I need to see it again soon. I'm totally in the mood for a Lord of the Rings-a-thon right now!
― ARAGORN SON OF ARATHORN (Z S), Friday, 24 July 2009 02:26 (fourteen years ago) link
i liked the third one the best
― Panera - Vulgar Display Of Flour (latebloomer), Friday, 24 July 2009 02:27 (fourteen years ago) link
i think the first is the best, the riders hunting the hobbits thru the shire and its outskirts is terrifying, and also the fucking Balrog!
the second has the awesome battle but i got tired of watching the rohan dudes, looked like smelly heavy metal guys and the acting of the king was kinda lame
― velko, Friday, 24 July 2009 02:36 (fourteen years ago) link
first one = bestsecond = very goodthird one = those fucking pirates gahhh
― (*゚ー゚)θ L(。・_・) °~ヾ(・ε・ *) (Steve Shasta), Friday, 24 July 2009 02:37 (fourteen years ago) link
No they are all garbage option?
― He was only 21 years old when he 16 (Alex in SF), Friday, 24 July 2009 02:43 (fourteen years ago) link
Second is probably the least boring though.
― He was only 21 years old when he 16 (Alex in SF), Friday, 24 July 2009 02:44 (fourteen years ago) link
but which one is the best
― julien schNAGL (s1ocki), Friday, 24 July 2009 02:46 (fourteen years ago) link
in the spirit of morbs, but without the artistry i'm afraidxpost
― velko, Friday, 24 July 2009 02:47 (fourteen years ago) link
xp The one I saw in Paris Christmas Eve where the entire audience was either sleeping or laughing.
― He was only 21 years old when he 16 (Alex in SF), Friday, 24 July 2009 02:59 (fourteen years ago) link
like they were all having funny dreams
― julien schNAGL (s1ocki), Friday, 24 July 2009 03:04 (fourteen years ago) link
christmas in paris? what are you, unamerican?
― ian, Friday, 24 July 2009 03:06 (fourteen years ago) link
i broke my vegetarianhood on christmas in paris
― julien schNAGL (s1ocki), Friday, 24 July 2009 03:09 (fourteen years ago) link
I don't really have much invested in LOTR and haven't seen any of these more than once, but the second was the only one I enjoyed watching.
― iatee, Friday, 24 July 2009 03:11 (fourteen years ago) link
"like they were all having funny dreams"
Possibly they were dreaming about seeing a good movie.
― He was only 21 years old when he 16 (Alex in SF), Friday, 24 July 2009 03:16 (fourteen years ago) link
possibly they were trying to avoid the ugly american in the room
― Panera - Vulgar Display Of Flour (latebloomer), Friday, 24 July 2009 03:21 (fourteen years ago) link
back when they came out i probably woulda said the third one cuz it gave me, like, emotions - NOOOO MISTER FRODO ;___; - but in retrospect the first one is the most memorable so idk. mixed feelings about the second one - omar's right in that the rohan stuff kinda owns what with brad dourif and all those cats but at the same time it feels really out of place to me, like something snipped from the fucken 13th Warrior or somethin. i never read the books so i have no attachment to any of this shit, they probably could've just made one REALLY bitchin movie out of all that material tho
― the shitbirdification of america's youth (cankles), Friday, 24 July 2009 03:28 (fourteen years ago) link
d*mn sean bean owns too
btw what is the scouring of tha shire
― the shitbirdification of america's youth (cankles), Friday, 24 July 2009 03:33 (fourteen years ago) link
In brief: in the book, Saruman and Wormtongue are left isolated under the watch of the Ents but eventually are let free by Treebeard. They end up going to the Shire, where Saruman's been corrupting some of the populace, and take over the place with some leftover half-orcs/hillmen/thugs, and pretty much wreck it (the bit in the movie in the Mirror of Galadriel showing that the Shire's been trashed is Jackson's nod to this). Frodo and company return and inspire an uprising against all this and win, though Frodo's pretty wearied by the war already and doesn't directly participate. Saruman and Wormtongue die kinda like in the movie (no Legolas) after Saruman tries to kill Frodo, and the Shire is eventually restored.
And yes, that was in brief.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 July 2009 03:39 (fourteen years ago) link
what is going on with that hobbit movie?
― akm, Friday, 24 July 2009 05:29 (fourteen years ago) link
scouring of the shire is like some bizarre afterward and is a total letdown dramatically, thank god it wasn't in the movie, it had enough endings as it was
― akm, Friday, 24 July 2009 05:31 (fourteen years ago) link
Fully underway, Guillermo del Toro directing and Jackson producing, filming starts next year, two films being planned (it'll be the story covered over both films, but with various things supplementing it drawing on the rest of what was happening at around the same time via Tolkien's retconning of the background in later years). http://theonering.net will have everything you need to know.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 July 2009 06:03 (fourteen years ago) link
i think I'm just gonna ask you about it, okay, cuz I don't want to get sucked into theonering black hole
― akm, Friday, 24 July 2009 06:04 (fourteen years ago) link
Two Towers, easy. it really blew my mind the first time i saw it and how well they pulled off Gollum.
― blame it on the jews, got you feelin' cankles (some dude), Friday, 24 July 2009 06:13 (fourteen years ago) link
Wise man. (Even I'm not going to completely obsess over the filming this time around -- ten years back I think I was already checking the site daily.)
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 July 2009 06:24 (fourteen years ago) link
agreed.
I probably like Two Towers the least, for how they portrayed the Ents and Faramir (or whatever the fuck his name is)
― Highly trained BBQ chef (rockapads), Friday, 24 July 2009 06:25 (fourteen years ago) link
My wife had never read the books and didn't know it was all one story in three parts. She was so pissed when we walked out of the theater after the first one, raging about how she'd been waiting for three hours for them to get rid of the damn ring and then suddenly the movie just ended.
We bought a new TV last Christmas and watched all three extended editions over a three day period of utter sloth and it was the best. I've got to go with the Two Towers, though the Moria / Balrog stuff in Fellowship was probably my favorite segment of any of them.
― joygoat, Friday, 24 July 2009 06:26 (fourteen years ago) link
i think two towers, for sort of the same reasons it was my least favorite of the books. in longform, it has the shortcomings of a middle chapter -- it just feels like it's getting you from one place to another, and it doesn't have the excitement and discovery of the beginning or all the grandeur and significance of the end. but in the movie, that means it's just like wall to wall action, with minimal thomas kinkadey elfin pastoralism. and the battle of helm's deep is A+ stuff.
plus there's the great wizard of oz nod at the black gate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuhSRGYyBJU
― flying squid attack (tipsy mothra), Friday, 24 July 2009 06:27 (fourteen years ago) link
I need to see the long versions of all of them. But only the third one brought actual tears to my eyes. It's the triumph that gets me, not the deaths.
― Nate Carson, Friday, 24 July 2009 08:30 (fourteen years ago) link
Fellowship one is the only one that's not a travestied fucking betrayal of the books.
― ledge, Friday, 24 July 2009 09:09 (fourteen years ago) link
If you Google you can find some other ones
I have the full Folio Tolkien set and yep, her illustrations are pretty great.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 5 January 2024 21:53 (three months ago) link
I think its interesting that Tolkien was this language fanatic yet somehow out of that came this rich treasury of advanture tales. Make me wonder what CHomsky has in him waiting to become high fantasy -
― | (Latham Green), Thursday, 11 January 2024 13:31 (three months ago) link
Manufacturing Ents
― craning to be leather (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 11 January 2024 14:52 (three months ago) link
Lectures on Government and Binding, co- author Sauron
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Thursday, 11 January 2024 15:04 (three months ago) link
Rings as a System of Power
― | (Latham Green), Thursday, 25 January 2024 13:39 (three months ago) link