or fine:
it sounds like what it is - indie r&b (really should have taken more offense to me calling this r&b - it's certainly more r&b in the way the-dream is [and that's to say very pop] than in the way ne-yo is) influenced by white people like daft punk, whom they take their name from.
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 23 July 2009 23:28 (fourteen years ago) link
ha, Jordan, you're clear on what I'm picking on here, right?
i like that it sounds like what it is, which is two white indie kids
I mean I don't know the guy's exact background or who his parents are, but it's been bugging me for over a year that everyone just instinctively turns a guy "white" because it better fits their mental categories of class/race/manner.
― nabisco, Thursday, 23 July 2009 23:29 (fourteen years ago) link
^^ this is referring to the person named Rostam Batmanglij who is confirmably Persian on at least one parent's side, if not both
― nabisco, Thursday, 23 July 2009 23:30 (fourteen years ago) link
if you consider Persian people "white," I apologize for raising the issue
― nabisco, Thursday, 23 July 2009 23:31 (fourteen years ago) link
i don't, but race is pretty inessential to how i feel about them anyway - the "indie" part of what i said matters much more in the context of the album
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 23 July 2009 23:33 (fourteen years ago) link
I don't believe that's an entirely honest statement, dude, considering your description of them "two white indie kids doing r&b," which seems to me to clearly be invoking some element of race in the coding of "indie" vs "r&b" -- as far as this music goes I'm actually with you on how that distinction doesn't feel significant with them, but obviously what I was getting at was a total side issue about forcing round pegs into square holes of race-coding
(it's not a big deal and I'm done -- I agree with you about the record!)
― nabisco, Thursday, 23 July 2009 23:39 (fourteen years ago) link
ok, thx for pointing it out tho, i get where you're coming from
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 23 July 2009 23:47 (fourteen years ago) link
i'm white btw
oh shit
― Heric E. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 July 2009 23:55 (fourteen years ago) link
aren't we all these days
― nabisco, Thursday, 23 July 2009 23:55 (fourteen years ago) link
no xpost required
― Heric E. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 24 July 2009 00:03 (fourteen years ago) link
BATMANglij
― ❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Friday, 24 July 2009 00:03 (fourteen years ago) link
If this is quoting any RnB I would say Ryan Leslie. Can You Discover sounds really like Gibberish.
― ❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Friday, 24 July 2009 17:13 (fourteen years ago) link
also Danjahands metronome hihats iirc
― ❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Saturday, 25 July 2009 11:42 (fourteen years ago) link
From this candid interview, it's easy to see what a great guy rostam is:
The night would not have been complete without Rostam Batmanglij, the grumpiest Vampiric Weekender. Did he ever finish that song I always heard him working on when he lived directly below my boyfriend?
“Yes, I did. It’s number seven on Hype Machine.”Is it for your solo project?“Are you writing this down? Can you not quote me?”
http://www.nypress.com/article-19805-bash-compactor-this-bites.html
― s. p. erkel, Saturday, 25 July 2009 18:09 (fourteen years ago) link
lol
― The Reverend, Saturday, 25 July 2009 19:47 (fourteen years ago) link
http://twitter.com/mileycyrus/statuses/3706721085
It's been fun, indie rawk. Good night, sweet prince.
― Cunga, Thursday, 10 September 2009 08:09 (fourteen years ago) link
New album in January. Contra.
01 Horchata02 White Sky03 Holiday04 California English05 Taxi Cab06 Run07 Cousins08 Giving Up the Gun09 Diplomat's Son10 I Think Ur a Contra
― The Devil's Avocado (Gukbe), Tuesday, 15 September 2009 23:38 (fourteen years ago) link
IS THAT ALBUM COVER A JOKE???
I THINK I LIKE IT!!
― surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Tuesday, 15 September 2009 23:47 (fourteen years ago) link
I hope it's the real cover, because I'm going to buy it and stare at it for hours.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 15 September 2009 23:49 (fourteen years ago) link
cool, but deserves its own thread. still really like that album.
― Bee OK, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 00:24 (fourteen years ago) link
nice cover pic of preppy girl and reaganesque title--way to tweak the haters!
― iago g., Thursday, 17 September 2009 02:17 (fourteen years ago) link
I THINK UR A CONTRA
O I GET IT LIKE CONTRAPUNTAL LOLZ
In [life], counterpoint is the relationship between two or more [people] that are independent in contour and rhythm and are [sexually] interdependent.
― LEGOS by Atlas Sound (coming eventually, 2009 or 2010) (Future_Perfect), Thursday, 17 September 2009 03:06 (fourteen years ago) link
Haha. The collar on her yellow polo shirt is turned up. JUST LIKE PREPPIES IN THE 80S!
I have no real interest in this band, but that album cover is going to make me a fan.
― Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 17 September 2009 03:10 (fourteen years ago) link
― LEGOS by Atlas Sound (coming eventually, 2009 or 2010) (Future_Perfect), Thursday, September 17, 2009 3:06 AM (16 hours ago) Bookmark
No dice! It's Contra as in an oh-so-cheeky inversion of Sandinista! You've heard of the Clash, right? And the girl looks like the hottie in Caddyshack...
― iago g., Thursday, 17 September 2009 19:19 (fourteen years ago) link
is this from the new album?http://hypem.com/track/905801/Vampire+Weekend+-+Ottomancause it's a pretty bad song
― Zeno, Thursday, 24 September 2009 16:50 (fourteen years ago) link
↑ ↑ ↓ ↓ ← → ← → B A
― deus ex lawnmower (latebloomer), Saturday, 26 September 2009 06:24 (fourteen years ago) link
I really like that track! Can't wait for this album
― Dan S, Saturday, 26 September 2009 06:36 (fourteen years ago) link
Ottoman is from the Nick and Norah's Infinite Playlist soundtrack, but I agree... it's a great song.
― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 26 September 2009 06:42 (fourteen years ago) link
new song on vampireweekend.com
curious to hear thoughts.
― akaky akakievich, Monday, 5 October 2009 21:03 (fourteen years ago) link
Love it. I've already listened to it 10 times or so. Also, I've never had horchata, and now I'm going looking for some.
Vampire Weekend: stimulating the local economy.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 5 October 2009 21:04 (fourteen years ago) link
Music's . . . okay, tho unmemorable. But I hate this group's cod-rock vibe.
"In December, drinkin' hawtchowddddaaaaa . . . " Blech.
― Daniel, Esq., Monday, 5 October 2009 21:11 (fourteen years ago) link
Oh, sorry. It's "drinkin' Horchata," not "drinkin' hot chowda."
The facts may change, but my opinion never will.
― Daniel, Esq., Monday, 5 October 2009 21:19 (fourteen years ago) link
ugggggggggggggggggggggggggggh
― Mr. Que, Monday, 5 October 2009 21:19 (fourteen years ago) link
"In December drinking horchata/ I look psychotic in a balaclava,
― Mr. Que, Monday, 5 October 2009 21:20 (fourteen years ago) link
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i'm indebted enough with these guys to like this song a lot but i can't help but think that they are explicitly trolling with these lyrics
― autogoon delight (J0rdan S.), Monday, 5 October 2009 21:54 (fourteen years ago) link
In December, drinking horchata/I’d look psychotic in a balaclava. Winter’s cold is too much to handle/Pincher crabs that pinch in your sandals.In December, drinking horchata/Look down your glasses at that aranciata/With lips and teeth to ask how my day went/Boots and fists to pound on the pavement.Here comes a feeling you thought you’d forgotten/Chairs to sit and sidewalks to walk on.You’d remember drinking horchata/You’d still enjoy it with your foot on Masada.
In December, drinking horchata/Look down your glasses at that aranciata/With lips and teeth to ask how my day went/Boots and fists to pound on the pavement.
Here comes a feeling you thought you’d forgotten/Chairs to sit and sidewalks to walk on.
You’d remember drinking horchata/You’d still enjoy it with your foot on Masada.
― Daniel, Esq., Monday, 5 October 2009 21:58 (fourteen years ago) link
Vampire Weekend Secures Place As The Jimmy Buffet Of The Oughts.
― Daniel, Esq., Monday, 5 October 2009 21:59 (fourteen years ago) link
the thing is, the rhyming and phrasing is really pleasant, which is something that is def carried over from the first album but there's no way that the imagery isn't two big middle fingers to their haters
― autogoon delight (J0rdan S.), Monday, 5 October 2009 22:05 (fourteen years ago) link
also i think it's important to note that ezra is kind of a goofy guy (cf his fake horror film that is the original 'vampire weekend', his jokey rapping in college) and i think rhyming shit like horchata and balaclava is his way of writing 'fun' carefree music. certainly i think that he uses his lyrics to play around with language moreso than try and rouse the listener's emotions (in this sense it's not that far from a lot of rap music)
― autogoon delight (J0rdan S.), Monday, 5 October 2009 22:08 (fourteen years ago) link
Indie schmindie.
And I like indie.
"(in this sense it's not that far from a lot of rap music)." Somewhere, the Wu-Tang Clan is groaning with disbelief.
― Daniel, Esq., Monday, 5 October 2009 22:10 (fourteen years ago) link
nah i mean, if you look at a lot of lil wayne's mixtape stuff or late 90s/early 2000s jay-z or 08/09 gucci mane, you see guys who are mostly writing lyrics where rhyming and phrasing and creating images that are evocative but not necessarily meaningful or connected are more important than conveying like concrete feelings which is obv what a lot of indie rock is about
(it's easy too to draw a connection between like some of ghostface's solo work and craig finn)
― autogoon delight (J0rdan S.), Monday, 5 October 2009 22:19 (fourteen years ago) link
It is a natural comparison:
Lil Wayne: F--k The WorldLook, look, lookA young nigga screaming fuck the world and let 'em dieBehind tints, tryna' duck the world and smoking rieGot my bandanna 'round my head and pants to my feetAnd got my eyes fire red and glock on my seatI'm tryna' stay under intoxication'Cause I lost my father, and got a daughter, plus I'm on probationI'm drinking liquor like it's water, getting pissy drunkAnd staying away from them lil' broads that trying to give me someI keep a chopper in the trunk and my heat on my wastelineDucking the law, 'cause I ain't tryna' do no FED timeSometimes I just wish I could be awayBut I gotta take care of Reginae and keep macita straightSo I just maintain the struggle and I keep tryingBut how can I when my closest people keep dyin'I ain't lying that the law tryna' bust my cliqueBut I scream fuck the world man, I'm too young for this
Look, look, lookA young nigga screaming fuck the world and let 'em dieBehind tints, tryna' duck the world and smoking rieGot my bandanna 'round my head and pants to my feetAnd got my eyes fire red and glock on my seatI'm tryna' stay under intoxication'Cause I lost my father, and got a daughter, plus I'm on probationI'm drinking liquor like it's water, getting pissy drunkAnd staying away from them lil' broads that trying to give me someI keep a chopper in the trunk and my heat on my wastelineDucking the law, 'cause I ain't tryna' do no FED timeSometimes I just wish I could be awayBut I gotta take care of Reginae and keep macita straightSo I just maintain the struggle and I keep tryingBut how can I when my closest people keep dyin'I ain't lying that the law tryna' bust my cliqueBut I scream fuck the world man, I'm too young for this
Vampire Weekend: HorchataIn December, drinking horchata/I’d look psychotic in a balaclava. Winter’s cold is too much to handle/Pincher crabs that pinch in your sandals.In December, drinking horchata/Look down your glasses at that aranciata/With lips and teeth to ask how my day went/Boots and fists to pound on the pavement.Here comes a feeling you thought you’d forgotten/Chairs to sit and sidewalks to walk on.You’d remember drinking horchata/You’d still enjoy it with your foot on Masada.
― Daniel, Esq., Monday, 5 October 2009 22:24 (fourteen years ago) link
(Okay, okay, I assume you meant the people on Lil Wayne's mixtapes, not Lil Wayne himself.)
― Daniel, Esq., Monday, 5 October 2009 22:25 (fourteen years ago) link
I think what he means is just "liking fun/interesting rhymes for their own sake"
― nabisco, Monday, 5 October 2009 22:25 (fourteen years ago) link
Yes, but you're killing my buzz with "reasoned argument."
― Daniel, Esq., Monday, 5 October 2009 22:26 (fourteen years ago) link
(j/k . . . I get J0rdan's point)
― Daniel, Esq., Monday, 5 October 2009 22:27 (fourteen years ago) link
and like, i would be willing to believe that ezra 'freestyles' a lot of his lyrics. the opening line of "horchata" flows so smoothly & easily is & is so tied to that tinkling melody that it sounds like to me he came up with it in almost one take
― autogoon delight (J0rdan S.), Monday, 5 October 2009 22:41 (fourteen years ago) link