that abdul-jabbar essay is horrible
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 30 March 2022 16:10 (two years ago) link
it's like a summary of the worst twitter takes cf.
As for the damage to show business, Smith’s violence is an implied threat to all comedians who now have to worry that an edgy or insulting joke might be met with violence. Good thing Don Rickles, Bill Burr, or Ricky Gervais weren’t there. As comedian Kathy Griffin tweeted: “Now we all have to worry about who wants to be the next Will Smith in comedy clubs and theaters.”
an implied threat to all comedians, heavens
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 30 March 2022 16:16 (two years ago) link
As someone who previously eye-rolled at Griffin's take, I probably sound like a bit of a hypocrite by endorsing this piece, but I felt that overall, he was coming from a place more sincere and nuanced than her "Won't someone please think of the comedians?!"
― Les hommes de bonbons (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 30 March 2022 16:18 (two years ago) link
i suppose i’m not coming from a position where i could read a paragraph like that evenly
also need to stop reading about this at all
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 30 March 2022 16:21 (two years ago) link
Fair. I felt like I was done talking/thinking about this some time around Monday afternoon, so I should probably just stop engaging with it, whether the source is reasonable (Kareem) or batshit (Armond).
― Les hommes de bonbons (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 30 March 2022 16:24 (two years ago) link
should've figured that was who "AW" was
Kareem's take was sensible imo
― Nhex, Wednesday, 30 March 2022 17:50 (two years ago) link
I agree.
also, this growing Twitter consensus that no other celebrities (let alone people in general) should be allowed to voice an opinion about this is fucking weird to me.
― akm, Wednesday, 30 March 2022 19:20 (two years ago) link
The Smith Stan Army turned out to be more dangerous than the K-Hive or Swifties.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 30 March 2022 19:34 (two years ago) link
BTS Army could still probably take them though
The incident was way beneath the oscars - it was really disheartening and it cast a pall on everything that came after it, in retrospect even more so
but the whole ceremony was also beneath the oscars: the shocking disregard for and dismissal of films, the horrible sound quality of the musical numbers, the relegation of multiple categories to pre-taped segments, the allowance of random non-film people to banter at length while winners like Hamaguchi were played off the stage (three times!)
― Dan S, Thursday, 31 March 2022 06:15 (two years ago) link
Too many sex criminals have won Oscars for anything to be beneath them.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 31 March 2022 06:16 (two years ago) link
wait Jessica Chastain won best actress for Eyes of Tammy Faye? it felt like she was doing a bad SNL character that whole movie.
― frogbs, Monday, 11 April 2022 13:38 (two years ago) link
Wait 'til you see what took the two screenplay awards...
― Max Hamburgers (Eric H.), Monday, 11 April 2022 13:42 (two years ago) link
I think this was the worst bunch of nominated best pictures in decades.
― bookmarkflaglink (Darin), Monday, 11 April 2022 15:43 (two years ago) link
Yea these flicks just don't slap
― scientific method man (Neanderthal), Monday, 11 April 2022 15:53 (two years ago) link
Hard to compare 10 films against 10, but scanning the last few years, some of them look just as mediocre to me.
― clemenza, Monday, 11 April 2022 16:09 (two years ago) link
I've seen far worse years.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 11 April 2022 16:12 (two years ago) link
what was the Crash year
― scientific method man (Neanderthal), Monday, 11 April 2022 16:12 (two years ago) link
really incredibly great:power of the dogdrive my carwest side storylicorice pizza good but wandered into the wrong class:dunenightmare alley
no:king richarddon't look upcoda
absolutely fucking not:belfast
better than most years for me idk
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 11 April 2022 16:13 (two years ago) link
I only saw five of the 10, but four of them were somewhere between okay and good, and that's about a normal year.
― clemenza, Monday, 11 April 2022 16:18 (two years ago) link
2018 was waaay worse.
2018's Oscar Nominees
― Max Hamburgers (Eric H.), Monday, 11 April 2022 16:19 (two years ago) link
Haven't seen Drive My Car or Licorice Pizza yet, but on the whole this year's batch looked to be just about as decent-to-mediocre, on the whole, as most other recent years. The Power of the Dog is better than anything from the 2020 lineup, but even though I really disliked King Richard, I don't think it is really a whole lot worse than, say, Mank.
― Les hommes de bonbons (cryptosicko), Monday, 11 April 2022 16:20 (two years ago) link
guess i agree with BradNelson here at least w/r/t to things I saw with the exception that I thought Belfast was good (though not great). finally watched Nightmare Alley this weekend and enjoyed it but it's no best picture fare.
― akm, Monday, 11 April 2022 16:24 (two years ago) link
Good to Great
Drive My CarThe Power of the Dog
Sound, Solid
Licorice PizzaDuneWest Side Story
Meh
Nightmare AlleyBelfastKing RichardDon't Look Up
The Hague
Coda
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 11 April 2022 16:30 (two years ago) link
I give you 2008:
The Curious Case of Benjamin ButtonSlumdog MillionairesFrost/NixonMilkThe Reader
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 11 April 2022 16:32 (two years ago) link
Oh, come on: I'm no fan of CODA, but King Richard is definitely worse (for reasons I've gone on about upthread).
And yeah, 2008 is the all-time worst. That 2018 list at least had BlackKklansman.
― Les hommes de bonbons (cryptosicko), Monday, 11 April 2022 16:34 (two years ago) link
CODA is shorter though.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 11 April 2022 16:36 (two years ago) link
2008 was the slate that made us all irate.
― Max Hamburgers (Eric H.), Monday, 11 April 2022 16:43 (two years ago) link
1975
Barry LyndonDog Day AfternoonJawsOne Flew Over the Cuckoo's NestNashville
Personally, there's probably more there for me than the last decade of BP nominees.
― clemenza, Monday, 11 April 2022 16:53 (two years ago) link
I've heard 1975 held up as the best BP lineup ever, and it is hard to disagree.
― Les hommes de bonbons (cryptosicko), Monday, 11 April 2022 16:56 (two years ago) link
It's got two all-time top 10 movies, so it scarcely matters that I run pretty cool on the other three.
― Max Hamburgers (Eric H.), Monday, 11 April 2022 16:58 (two years ago) link
Cuckoo's Nest (the winner) might actually be my least favorite of the five, and that is about the strongest thing that I can say against that film.
― Les hommes de bonbons (cryptosicko), Monday, 11 April 2022 17:00 (two years ago) link
Well, 2021 may not be the worst year, but I think it's going to be the most forgettable.
― bookmarkflaglink (Darin), Monday, 11 April 2022 17:08 (two years ago) link
There are 4 or 5 decent choices. I think Drive My Car will be remembered as the rare foreign film that got a worthy nomination.
― adam t. (abanana), Monday, 11 April 2022 17:32 (two years ago) link