Elden Ring: YOU DIED on a horse

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Man, I keep discovering stuff in places i thought I'd stepped over a million times

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Tuesday, 22 March 2022 02:20 (two years ago) link

If I'm favoring a magic build over melee, whats the diff between levelling up FP, vs Intelligence? And should I have put some into faith? I figured the staff spells were enough but Ive seen some amazing looking high-level holy swords.

I am finding the heavy D&D stat wrangling HELLA confusing.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 22 March 2022 03:30 (two years ago) link

If I'm favoring a magic build over melee, whats the diff between levelling up FP, vs Intelligence? And should I have put some into faith? I figured the staff spells were enough but Ive seen some amazing looking high-level holy swords.

I am finding the heavy D&D stat wrangling HELLA confusing.


Levelling Mind will give you more FP so you can cast more spells/cast better spells/use more skills before needing to use a blue flask (it’s also useful for spirit ashes as some require lots of FP to summon).

Levelling intelligence let’s you use different spells/weapons as they may have a minimum intelligence requirement. It will also make your spells and some attacks more powerful if you use an item which scales with intelligence.

With my magic build I prioritised intelligence but threw vigour and mind points every few levels until they were at a point I was happy enough with my HP/FP. Once I reached 800 HP and 100 MP I just ploughed everything into intelligence pretty much. I’d defo recommend finding a melee weapon which scales with intelligence so you have that option as well without being super underpowered because you have like 10 strength or whatever.

crisp, Tuesday, 22 March 2022 08:40 (two years ago) link

My partner has just bought this game and we share played the first couple of hours together. She's already foubnd a ton of stuff that passed me by entirely (like an easy way to kill and farm the troll at the beginning of Stormgate by shooting it with a bow from the left hand side of the cliffs where it can't get you).
Then I played my own game from 6pm-2am, mostly just retracing parts of Limgrave and the Weeping Peninsula and finding tons of hidden caves. I think maybe my favourite thing to do in this game is tracing my way around cliff edges looking for secret paths down.
Then I went to bed and dreamt about Elden Ring all night.

And I STILL am no further in the game than I was three days ago.

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Tuesday, 22 March 2022 09:36 (two years ago) link

I have just acquired sorceries though... I'm level 40 FFS

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Tuesday, 22 March 2022 12:42 (two years ago) link

The thing that annoys me in Souls games is you're in a shop eyeing up some armour or a weapon, but there's no easy way to compare it to the weapon you already have without memorising all the stats, leaving the shop menu, going into your own inventory and looking at what you have. Or am I wrong here? How am I meant to know whether something is worth buying without a lot of tediousness? I'm terrible at memorising numbers for a start, so this annoys me a lot

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Tuesday, 22 March 2022 12:44 (two years ago) link

You're not wrong, there is no quick stat-compare in shops, and it is super annoying. I never buy any weaponry or armor for this very reason, and most of the best gear is stuff you're going to find out in the world anyway. I spend all my runes on the crafting cookbooks and useful items like the lantern.

feed me with your chips (zchyrs), Tuesday, 22 March 2022 13:08 (two years ago) link

the inverted carian study hall was the most frustrating part of this game for me so far. genuine demons souls-era mental agony.

adam, Tuesday, 22 March 2022 13:15 (two years ago) link

I find it frustrating that the shop menu will indicate the number of usable items you possess, but not the same for weaponry or armour. "Do I already own a broadsword, I wonder?" Sorry, you have to leave the shop and access your inventory (or your hope chest) to find out!

flow, my crimson tears (flamboyant goon tie included), Tuesday, 22 March 2022 14:22 (two years ago) link

Tree Sentinel felled, Bloody Finger Nerjius felled. And suddenly the big trolls are easy pickings for farming. There's one near Third Church I can just spam and get runes from so this is useful

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Tuesday, 22 March 2022 14:26 (two years ago) link

Some more fun invasion clips, I just can't get enough of the magic parry shield skill:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-II0OXR0KMY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3P_ACeWf9A

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 22 March 2022 14:58 (two years ago) link

the inverted carian study hall was the most frustrating part of this game for me so far. genuine demons souls-era mental agony.

― adam, Tuesday, March 22, 2022 8:15 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

Oh fr? I remember it being short but maybe I missed a bunch. Do you mean the npc who keeps shooting magic arrows at you?

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 22 March 2022 14:59 (two years ago) link

yup, idk why. i just couldn't counter the loretta's greatbow spam. finally got her, then fell to my death and died to some spider hands before retrieving my runes. vintage souls.

adam, Tuesday, 22 March 2022 16:07 (two years ago) link

Haha. I just sat there trying to parry her shots with the shield art in those videos I just posted (worked pretty well!).

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 22 March 2022 16:09 (two years ago) link

I have a magic glintblade that does similar to that parry - it can hit things you cant otherwise, cos it comes from up high and whams down on the target.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 23 March 2022 01:17 (two years ago) link

Godrick felled on fourth go! Whooo

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Wednesday, 23 March 2022 01:36 (two years ago) link

fire giant just took me exactly 40 tries. 40 rune arcs.

bridge of donkeys, Wednesday, 23 March 2022 02:39 (two years ago) link

Felled the wee Leonine beastie at Castle Morne fairly easily, but apparently I was meant to speak to Edgar first and missed him completely lol whoops. I gave him his daughters letter now but he didnt want the sword. Ive quit for now (work, sigh) ad hopefully he'll take it when I reload.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 23 March 2022 02:57 (two years ago) link

Given the lack of questlogs it feels like it'd be easy to break some side quests in this game, if you half get a quest, forget it/pass by a part of it/kill the wrong NPC.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 23 March 2022 02:58 (two years ago) link

You can break a big side quest really easily with Edgar, apparently, not his quest, but another quest he's needed for. I'd suggest doing a little guide-sniffing about him so you don't ruin it, as I did!

flow, my crimson tears (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, 23 March 2022 04:08 (two years ago) link

Well I wont kill him if thats what you mean - people seem to like doing that to NPCs!?

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 23 March 2022 04:32 (two years ago) link

Dang, think I must have missed Edgar as well

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Wednesday, 23 March 2022 08:51 (two years ago) link

He's easy to miss. I killed the boss before going back though and finding him (I was v anxious, I don't like having a letter that I've said I'd deliver in my pocket. And I think at that point it was the only thing I was sure I had to do in the game).

woof, Wednesday, 23 March 2022 10:23 (two years ago) link

okay just met the freaky bull/insect thing (which kicked my arse, naturally), definite Bloodborne Elder Gods vibes

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Wednesday, 23 March 2022 11:11 (two years ago) link

Spoiling for Edgar:

A particular sequence of events (that is easily broken) causes Edgar to blame you for his daughter's death, and then his phantom invades you in the Lake District. Kill the phantom and you get a key item for another quest, a larger more important endgame quest. But: it's easy to break this sequence, it seems, and many players are finding themselves un-invaded by Phantom Edgar, and thus locked out of a big endgame quest, as I was. Consensus in the community seems to dictate that it's safest to kill him after clearing Morne, and/or be fastidious about ensuring that this plot line plays out precisely

flow, my crimson tears (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, 23 March 2022 15:05 (two years ago) link

huh that seems weird. i just finished up castle morne and tried to do what he wanted so we'll see how it pans out down the road. it's annoying that to go back to him after defeating the leonine boss, you have to redo like half the castle.

finally got around to making some attempts at magrit yesterday but couldn't get him down to more than 1/3 of his HP. gonna save up for the shackle before i try again, probably.

i'm so bad at remembering to use all the tools at my disposal. like i'll get into dodging and striking and completely forget to do any blocking. and i have all these extra tools in my inventory (like the various greases) that i never remember to use. i just now started getting in the habit of using the wondrous flask. there are so many things to try.

na (NA), Wednesday, 23 March 2022 15:14 (two years ago) link

I'm pretty sure I messed up Edgar's quest too, as I have many of the npc quests, as I usually do.

okay just met the freaky bull/insect thing (which kicked my arse, naturally), definite Bloodborne Elder Gods vibes

Is this the one from the underground poison lake area? That's where I'm at too.

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 23 March 2022 15:16 (two years ago) link

I need to mess around with the wondrous flask more, I haven't even tried out the ruptured tear yet (which makes you explode).

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 23 March 2022 15:17 (two years ago) link

xp no up at Volcano Manor, not as far in as you by the sounds of it

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Wednesday, 23 March 2022 15:25 (two years ago) link

I haven't reached Volcano Manor, so I don't think I'm as far as you, haha. I've just been following Ranni's quest.

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 23 March 2022 15:31 (two years ago) link

are you at "astel, natural born of the void"? got there last night, got wrecked, went to bed.

adam, Wednesday, 23 March 2022 16:13 (two years ago) link

Yes! Looks like something out of Doom. He clearly doesn't want you hanging out below him, so the usual approach doesn't work. I think he won't be too bad if I can only learn to avoid that instant death grab attack.

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 23 March 2022 16:23 (two years ago) link

Yeah I've not really used the Wondrous Flask thing much yet either although my partner informs me it's great for farming

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Wednesday, 23 March 2022 16:27 (two years ago) link

this game rules

gbx, Wednesday, 23 March 2022 20:51 (two years ago) link

definitely ended up OP (lvl 55? or so?) when i faced godrick because i beat him first try (after losing many times to margit previously)

had initially planned to try this out w/o using guides and what-not, but i know that if i'm actually going to finish it sometime in the next hmmm year i need to get tips/tricks

that said, i've been impressed with the level design, at least w/r/t getting you where you need to go. dungeon-y games can, for me, be unplayable if you're spending all your time wandering around lost and i put off going into stormveil for a long time under the assumption that it was going to be horribly complicated. i did consult a map/walkthrough a few times but actually getting to godrick would've been manageable without i think

gbx, Wednesday, 23 March 2022 20:59 (two years ago) link

I like how getting to Godrick (or the main boss in general in these dungeons) is very straightforward, but finding the multiple secret paths and hidden bosses/items/npcs is not.

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 23 March 2022 21:09 (two years ago) link

Kill the phantom and you get a key item for another quest, a larger more important endgame quest

If you mean the grape, somehow I ended up with one without killing Edgar or pising him off, I dont quite know how!

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 23 March 2022 21:42 (two years ago) link

Oh BTW if you have killed Leonine and not spoken to Edgar just save at a site of grace and pass a day and go back to him then it works.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 23 March 2022 21:43 (two years ago) link

And btw if you have to go back to him, a tip: you can basically sneak past that pile of bodies/weirdos supplicating on said pile, and sneak past the sleeping pumpkin head and go up the ladder. BUt yeah you still have to fight those irritaing flying things.

A side note: RATS, amirite why are they some of the worst enemies I hate them.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 23 March 2022 21:45 (two years ago) link

This whole Edgar / Irina plotline is weird. I killed Lionel before even speaking to Edgar. I just went to find him at Castle Morne and he's not where he's meant to be. I went to Bridge of Sacrifice and Irina is dead but according to guides, Edgar is supposed to be there and he's not. Kind of annoying

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Wednesday, 23 March 2022 23:14 (two years ago) link

Oh wait I should have read Trayce's posts

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Wednesday, 23 March 2022 23:14 (two years ago) link

But time has definitely passed since I killed Lionel as I did it ages ago

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Wednesday, 23 March 2022 23:16 (two years ago) link

Ah I'm not fighting those flying Mick Hucknall things again only to find he's still not there

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Wednesday, 23 March 2022 23:22 (two years ago) link

"flying Mick Hucknall things" lol

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 23 March 2022 23:28 (two years ago) link

And btw if you have to go back to him, a tip: you can basically sneak past that pile of bodies/weirdos supplicating on said pile, and sneak past the sleeping pumpkin head and go up the ladder. BUt yeah you still have to fight those irritaing flying things.

A side note: RATS, amirite why are they some of the worst enemies I hate them.


rats are and always have been complete assholes in souls games. these ones do seem to be even more irritating.

im going to try and get round as much of liurnia as possible having boundaried it out now, and the project now has to be fuckin smarag. i know i can just use the same tactics as i did with the one in limgrave but it’s not happening at the moment.

might explore one of the belfry towers as well.

Fizzles, Thursday, 24 March 2022 07:21 (two years ago) link

the rats that make you go CRAZY are extra annoying, thanks Miyazaki-san

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Thursday, 24 March 2022 09:11 (two years ago) link

I found the rat spirit summons, and while I haven't tried it I can only assume it's the most powerful spell in the game (possibly only second to dog spirits, if that exists).

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 24 March 2022 12:46 (two years ago) link

Left Godrick for a while and came back overlevelled with a stronger, better jellyfish and that nice Nepheli person. He went down pretty easily, but I can't really take credit - I just ran up a few times and put in the odd blood slash.

Scoping out Liurnia now & it feels comfortable but not easy, which is where i want to be.

Still poking around corners of Limgrave/WP. Thought I'd seen most things but then DEATHBIRD jumped me.

Got the Carian armour, so finally looking good.

woof, Thursday, 24 March 2022 14:27 (two years ago) link

Still feeling awkward about killing dogs in front of my dog.

woof, Thursday, 24 March 2022 14:32 (two years ago) link

Haha. I only just found Nepheli, but the creepy wizard guy who wanted me to find her has died of natural causes, so oh well. Probably as a result of finishing Ranni's quest, which was truly a wild ride.

I clipped my fight with Astel, since I thought it went pretty well. It's nice that he actually gives you time to heal, it's pretty chill in comparison to some others.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nm_XZUUlue4

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 24 March 2022 14:57 (two years ago) link


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