This show did that a LOT and it was very baffling.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 21 March 2022 22:02 (two years ago) link
it's not as pithy, but "jump cut to the ready room where everything is soft focus and ferns and water features, and Michael and Saru gently touch each other's upper forearms and express their appreciation for togetherness at this difficult time" ranks beside "make it saab" in the canon of unforgettable ST summaries. It's taking me forever to get through this damn series.
― stet, Friday, 9 September 2022 14:20 (one year ago) link
First episode of S5, still not great. Less terrible therapy talk but the dialogue (and way they shot dialogue scenes) was stilted and awkward.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 5 April 2024 13:05 (three weeks ago) link
Oh wow, didn't even know it was back
― groovypanda, Friday, 5 April 2024 13:59 (three weeks ago) link
First ep was ... so busy. I've been watching a lot ofold trek + lower decks lately, so going back to the shaky-cam and lens-flare CGI everything tone of DISC was a bit of whiplash.
But!
I was pleased to see a lot more Trek fanservice in ep 2. Self sealing stem bolts! Picard! Mentions of the Breen! A Soongian android! (he was great - wish they hadnt killed him off) The progenitors! If that/they will be the main storyline btw I am all for it. Now, I guess I need to rewatch "The Chase" to get it in my head again.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 5 April 2024 23:27 (three weeks ago) link
In summary, I feel like the showrunners may have actually learned something from the reception SNW and LD has had, and started applying it here too?
How did I miss this was back? They must’ve done zero promo… I bought pizza last night and actively wished that I could eat it watching a schlocky ep of Disco (ended up watching Repo Man fyi)
― Kraal Disorientation Chamber (emsworth), Friday, 5 April 2024 23:41 (three weeks ago) link
i like the story but same w trayce the style felt jarrong this time. and the action sequences especially all felt like sooo stupid! it was like they were going for starwars pod race vibes. super dumb space surfing? please fuck off.
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 6 April 2024 03:17 (three weeks ago) link
*jarring
Yeah Burnham riding the outside of a ship in warp? GTFO with that. And yeah I had Star Wars vibes all thru this ep as well!
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Saturday, 6 April 2024 04:31 (three weeks ago) link
OH. And reading a recap just now, reminds me of the scene where the new cap'n on the Antares exclaims "70% for the win!" which REALLY clanged. That stupid phrase is dated NOW, let alone 100s of years from now, ugh.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Saturday, 6 April 2024 04:39 (three weeks ago) link
lame
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 6 April 2024 04:48 (three weeks ago) link
still LOVING cronenburg thohe is a delight
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 6 April 2024 05:24 (three weeks ago) link
I tuned out during the desert speed racer seen. You’re not just ripping off Star Wars, you’re ripping off the WORST Star Wars.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 6 April 2024 05:27 (three weeks ago) link
After Strange New Worlds, it’s jarring how little anyone outside of Michael and maybe 2-3 other people matter.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 6 April 2024 05:30 (three weeks ago) link
Ive been reflecting more on it ,having just watched a few STNG eps. One was basically a whole-episode meditation on Worf dealing with being a single dad (shittily, natch). But it made me think: with 25+ eps a season, you had *time* to spend a whole ep on one character's arc, story, persona. This has prob been said loads I'm sure but the streaming era sucks in that they have to cram everything in with only 8-10 eps per season and insisting on season-long story arcs. Its hard to feel any connection to anyone when we're busy watching them just react to the situation all the time and not stopping to just exist once in a while. I'd argue even SNW/LD have this problem!
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Saturday, 6 April 2024 05:42 (three weeks ago) link
TL;DR: old crone yells at cloud, no one takes the time anymore, yadda yadda.
no that’s just itstrange new worlds can give a whole episode to a story, and yes maybe thats a function of it being a throwback but disco feels like it’s always running 4 plots every episode and doing all of them half justice. it makes me not care abt any of it!
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 6 April 2024 06:16 (three weeks ago) link
Strange New Worlds was worse on the fun episodic content in the second season (still loads better than Discovery, of course).
― papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 6 April 2024 07:15 (three weeks ago) link
I mean it had the LD crossover and the musical episode alone!
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 6 April 2024 16:49 (three weeks ago) link
yeah idk milo maybe you forgot more of s2 than u remembered
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 6 April 2024 19:55 (three weeks ago) link
The musical episode was the opposite of fun (though episodic). They did way more Discovery feelings talk this season.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 6 April 2024 20:19 (three weeks ago) link
this show can be pretty dumb but I still feel a sneaking fondness towards it
first two episodes were fine but I did have a sinking feeling when the segments of the season-long story arc started clunking into place
― Kraal Disorientation Chamber (emsworth), Sunday, 7 April 2024 02:02 (three weeks ago) link
like another mcguffiny quest and at the end we will for sure be staring in awe at a cgi aurora borealis contemplating the wonder of creation in a canonically non-conclusive way
and saru will be back just to up the hugs and feelings quotient
― Kraal Disorientation Chamber (emsworth), Sunday, 7 April 2024 02:05 (three weeks ago) link
I mean probably that is just Star Trek and I should relax into it
― Kraal Disorientation Chamber (emsworth), Sunday, 7 April 2024 02:06 (three weeks ago) link
lol otm no lies told
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 7 April 2024 02:24 (three weeks ago) link
briefly wondered, in the finale, if tilly and vance were gonna bang
― mookieproof, Thursday, March 17, 2022 8:13 PM (two years ago)
this should have happened imo
― mookieproof, Sunday, 7 April 2024 02:40 (three weeks ago) link
another map with x locations they need to visit to uncover a secret, just like the red angel in season 2. hopefully no time travel this time.
also has the star trek v problem in that there is no way the progenitors stuff has a satisfying payoff.
ep2 had some breathing room for banter with saru. i liked that. is saru gone now?
― formerly abanana (dat), Sunday, 7 April 2024 02:54 (three weeks ago) link
I liked the first two seasons well enough but tapped out a few episodes into the third season because Michael was so boring without a Spock/Jason Isaacs/Michelle Yeoh to play off.
I think I’ll skip 3&4 and watch this last season though. Did I miss anything? Why is David Cronenberg wearing a 20th century suit? Did Michael and Book ever threaten to become interesting?
― Chuck_Tatum, Sunday, 7 April 2024 15:02 (three weeks ago) link
I hope the reveal is that the Cronenberg character is actually David Cronenberg...
There's something super-Canadian about latter day Trek (not that Trek was ever lacking Canadian-ness via Shatner) that gives it an off-brand forgettableness. I think Callum Rennie was even in ExistenZ(!)
― Philip Nunez, Sunday, 7 April 2024 17:28 (three weeks ago) link
Yeah Red Angel all over again was what came immediately to mind for me too xpsAlso stunned that the first clue points to Trill, just after Adira says she's happier separated from Gray
― groovypanda, Sunday, 7 April 2024 19:12 (three weeks ago) link
i torrented the first two episodes but in the highlights from last season someone 'felt seen' and then in the first scene all the annoying characters (i.e. *not* owosekun or at least detmer) are being sad/bitchy and you know what? fuck that, i'm out
*almost* want to keep watching just for cronenberg but it's not enough
― mookieproof, Monday, 15 April 2024 05:34 (one week ago) link
I watched S05 E03 but have no real memory of it
― Kraal Disorientation Chamber (emsworth), Monday, 15 April 2024 05:54 (one week ago) link
Trill mindmeld and cloaking monster and puzzle piece something something something (why have Klingons disappeared in the 32nd century?). It's still bad but now I'm stuck and have to finish the season.
Amazing how the then-seemingly-bad first couple of seasons seem solid in comparison, at least you had Jason Patrick and Space Hitler chewing scenery.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 15 April 2024 09:17 (one week ago) link
S3 was really weird and the plot is feeling horribly clumsy. It seems to basically be turning into zelda triforce fetchquest. Ugh.
Oh and as someone on IMDB pointed out, whats the point of finding any of this now when they had a Genesis device in S3 of Picard?
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 04:30 (one week ago) link
Sorry I meant EP 3, dammit.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 04:32 (one week ago) link
But having said that - Culber-as-Jinraal was pretty fun, Wilson Cruz acted that up really well, and I liked how it was a callback to when all the DS9 crew had to go around manifesting Curzon and all Dax's other peeps.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 04:34 (one week ago) link
oh man the actor who manifested joran(?) for ezri in DS9 s07 was almost unbearably over-the-top
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 04:37 (one week ago) link
Was he the serial killer one the whole point it was for? I cant actually remember it now lol, and I only watched it last year.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 05:00 (one week ago) link
yes! so bad
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 05:47 (one week ago) link
Joran, the pick-me serial killer
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 14:05 (one week ago) link
Discovery this season seems like a video game, collect all the pieces of the puzzle type quest. The graphics seem kinda gamey too cf Michael surfing on a spaceship in a "warp bubble".
― BrianB, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 16:01 (one week ago) link
So, I thought I didn't enjoy last nights episode for various reasons, but...it turns out its one of the most liked/popular of the show!? Clearly I missed something. All I kept thinking was "if Burnham and Stamets kept reappearing in the past how come they dont remember it happening before? Why isnt Burnham fighting herself breaking the frickin timeline? What have I missed?" Apparently the whole thing was a callback to a VOY episode called "Shattered" which completely escaped me, so ok.
Also bummed they mentioned Lorca but he was conveniently out on a mission *kicks dirt, grumbles*
The bit where Stamets was desperately trying not to fuck the timeline up by saying the wrong thing was pretty funny, tbf. Also Reno's one appearance. "ah no, are you stuck in a time loop?" *rolls eyes*
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 18 April 2024 22:48 (one week ago) link
i know this is an ongoing thing but it just takes so much longer to DO LITERALLY ANYTHING on this ship in this seriez because everyone has to use the right tone & let everyone’s voice be heard and omg this episode would be half as long on a normally fuctioning ship that just fucking takes orders lol
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 19 April 2024 03:54 (one week ago) link
covert anti-woke series in the guise of a woke one
― stet, Friday, 19 April 2024 16:53 (one week ago) link
kind of fond indulgent lol at the idea that I am invested enough in these characters and their GROWTH to welcome a time-travelling retrospective looking back on how much they've all changed
like, the robot woman who not a day goes by that we don't think about - I could barely remember her - although I looked her up and remembered that she was a completely anonymous character until she got given a back-story about 5 seconds before she was killed off
― Kraal Disorientation Chamber (emsworth), Monday, 22 April 2024 04:28 (six days ago) link
totally!
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 22 April 2024 05:21 (six days ago) link
Remember Michael and Spock talking about their feelings and childhood trauma for ten important minutes when they were supposed to be saving all of human existence? lol
― papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 22 April 2024 05:26 (six days ago) link
he was a completely anonymous character until she got given a back-story about 5 seconds before she was killed off
Haaha yes that bit was the worst. I was all "wait, did I miss an episode or 2? Who is this again!?"
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 22 April 2024 06:01 (six days ago) link
death of robot lady episode is the only thing i can remember about this show that isn't jason isaacs or michelle yeoh
did they get isaacs back for this last season - isn't his non-mirror-version unaccounted for? failure if not
― Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 22 April 2024 12:54 (six days ago) link