Martha, My Dear: ILM's All-Time Video-Poll Results Thread

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just rewatched 2pac/scarface 'smile' and was curious who directed it.

Paul Hunter: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Hunter_(director)

forgot about usher 'my way'. also that black eyed peas 'joints and jams' was a fav of mine at that time.

jammin on the dud (Spottie), Monday, 21 March 2022 17:04 (two years ago) link

paul hunter videography genuinely ridiculous

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Monday, 21 March 2022 17:07 (two years ago) link

truly. we shoulda just polled him and hype williams videos.

jammin on the dud (Spottie), Monday, 21 March 2022 17:15 (two years ago) link

Forgot another early one that I really enjoy: the Stones' Jumpin' Jack Flash, though there are a few variants. It got a restoration that looked awesome when I saw it at MoMA's program celebrating the Stones' 50th anniversary, but I don't think it was officially made available for home viewing outside of its usage in the so-so Crossfire Hurricane documentary. The only place I can find it online is on Facebook, though you don't need an account to view it.

birdistheword, Monday, 21 March 2022 18:00 (two years ago) link

My unranked ballot:

Tom Tom Club - Genius of Love
Yo La Tengo - I'll Be Around
A Tribe Called Quest - Electric Relaxation
Ann Steel - My Time
Aphex Twin - Come to Daddy
Autechre - Gantz Graf
Beck - Deadweight
Björk - Human Behaviour
Björk - Triumph of a Heart
Cabaret Voltaire - Sensoria
Carly Simon - Why
Chemical Brothers - Let Forever Be
Chemical Brothers - Star Guitar
Cibo Matto - Sugar Water

Cléo - Les Fauves
Cure - Close to Me
Daft Punk - Around the World
De La Soul - A Roller Skating Jam Named Saturdays
Deee-Lite - Groove Is in the Heart
Fall - Eat Y'Self Fitter
France Gall - Laisse tomber les filles
Kate Bush - Wuthering Heights (trees version)
Kate Bush - Wuthering Heights (trails version)
Kraftwerk - Musique Non-Stop
Kylie Minogue - Come Into My World
Lio - Sage Comme Une Image
Lucas - Lucas with the Lid Off
Madonna - Frozen
Mick Jagger - Memo from Turner
Moloko - The Flipside
Pet Shop Boys - Heart
Pet Shop Boys - West End Girls
Portishead - Only You
Roisin Murphy - Overpowered
Saint Etienne - Only Love Can Break Your Heart
Serge Gainsbourg & Jane Birkin - 69 année érotique
Serge Gainsbourg & Brigitte Bardot - Bonnie and Clyde
Siouxsie & the Banshees - Spellbound
Sparks - When Do I Get to Sing 'My Way’?
Sparks - When I'm With You
Talking Heads - Love for Sale
Tears for Fears - Head Over Heels
Todd Terje - Inspector Norse
Moloko - Fun for Me
Oneohtrix Point Never - Problem Areas
Boards of Canada - Everything You Do Is a Balloon
Trans-X - Living on Video
Ronika - Wiyoo
Stice - Ollygoshawda
Scott Walker - Epizootics!

eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Monday, 21 March 2022 19:23 (two years ago) link

Thanks Clemenza, Viborg, anyone else with a role, co-voters! A sign of a comprehensive and significant poll is that some people are a bit miffed with the results. (If it wasn't comprehensive they wouldn't have heard of it; if it wasn't significant they wouldn't have cared.)

anatol_merklich, Monday, 21 March 2022 23:36 (two years ago) link

I will probably go through all of the top 100 at some point in the next month. Grateful that an all time video list finally happened here, and just as I was hoping, the stuff I haven't seen yet (so far) is all really bizarre and interesting. I wouldn't call a lot of these worthy of an all time list, but for me that's not really the point.

I totally forgot about that Hot Chip video. But it also reminds me of the Beach House video with Ray Wise that I was so sure would place.

billstevejim, Tuesday, 22 March 2022 02:11 (two years ago) link

I know the song, and I figure I must have seen some of the video at some point, but the revelation of the poll for me was "Unfinished Sympathy".

Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 22 March 2022 02:30 (two years ago) link

I was a #1 vote for "Sabotage" btw, didn't see the email. Given that my son makes me play him that video over and over again, it definitely has legs.

Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Tuesday, 22 March 2022 14:16 (two years ago) link

I feel like I could make a separate list of "movie scenes that I wish could be music videos."

Andy Warhol's Vinyl for Martha Reeves & The Vandellas' "Nowhere to Run"

James Benning's 11 x 14 for Bob Dylan's "Black Diamond Bay" (two scenes actually)

Martin Scorsese's Mean Streets and GoodFellas for "Then He Kissed Me," "Mickey's Monkey," "What Is Life," "Jumping Jack Flash," "Atlantis" and probably many others

Kenneth Anger's Scorpio Rising for "He's a Rebel"

etc.

birdistheword, Tuesday, 22 March 2022 14:35 (two years ago) link

"Subterranean Homesick Blues" in this list is one example.
I feel like part of the attraction of scenes like that is that they're not independent works; the songs come in, blend with the movie and leave. Watching them on their own feels like it's inflating them somehow.

Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 22 March 2022 14:57 (two years ago) link

I've written a book on the subject (pop music in films), and my interest in the two subjects is connected I'm sure. (Another voter has also written a book on the subject...I won't link to his without checking.)

clemenza, Tuesday, 22 March 2022 15:16 (two years ago) link

But then Kenneth Anger's use of the Paris Sisters' "Dream Lover" in Kustom Kar Kommandos strikes me as a special case because it's not an excerpt from the film, it's the entire film. I didn't vote for it bc I was trying to honor the distinction between that and videos that were made to promote a record, but I guess that is the principal difference between that and, say, Bruce Conner's film for "Mongoloid" by Devo.

Josefa, Tuesday, 22 March 2022 15:25 (two years ago) link

the subterranean “video” has surely been seen by far more people than the entirety of don’t look back, and certainly passes the iconicity test (based on how often it’s been parodied and imitated)

it’s a bit different from scenes from narrative films that prominently use a song

roflrofl fight (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 22 March 2022 15:31 (two years ago) link

To me, "Subterranean Homesick Blues" works fine as a (legitimate) standalone video. If Don't Look Back didn't exist, but MTV had existed in 1965, I could see where Dylan would have come up with exactly the same thing as his idea of what a video should look like.

clemenza, Tuesday, 22 March 2022 15:43 (two years ago) link

(The "Like a Rolling Stone" video that I voted for, which was probably done six or seven years ago, I would love to know the extent of Dylan's involvement with that. Other than commissioning and ultimately approving it, my guess is nil--I just can't imagine him coming up with anything like what materialized.)

clemenza, Tuesday, 22 March 2022 15:53 (two years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gib916jJW1o

ledge, Tuesday, 22 March 2022 15:58 (two years ago) link

I think Bob Roberts came out before "Subterranean" became an "official" video, so I vaguely remember being thrilled just to see the Don't Look Back sequence referenced. (Didn't care for the film at the time, got better when I watched it years later.) Looking at it now, it's just weird that the women look like the Robert Palmer women--reference overload.

clemenza, Tuesday, 22 March 2022 18:07 (two years ago) link

Bob Roberts did it a few years after INXS iirc

Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Tuesday, 22 March 2022 18:13 (two years ago) link

The Maxell advert is one of the best TV adverts of all time. There’s another one which uses Desmond Dekker’s ‘Israelites’ along same lines to diminishing returns.

Dan Worsley, Tuesday, 22 March 2022 18:55 (two years ago) link

That would be this, then. As with “Into The Valley”, I could never hear the track the same way again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KShjB5jyjM

mike t-diva, Tuesday, 22 March 2022 23:57 (two years ago) link

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Lucero

realized while watching the video for the odb remix of "woo-hah got you all in check" that i love this dude's work, always creative if on a more modest level than say a hype williams, sucks he died so young. tha alkaholiks video he did ("the next level") is pretty much as good as "'93 til infinity"

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Wednesday, 23 March 2022 15:11 (two years ago) link

oh yeah thats a good videography. he loved him some contrast.

jammin on the dud (Spottie), Wednesday, 23 March 2022 18:38 (two years ago) link

kush is a GREAT video

jammin on the dud (Spottie), Wednesday, 23 March 2022 18:39 (two years ago) link

always loved the song/video for xzibit's "paparazzi"

xp lol

roflrofl fight (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 23 March 2022 18:53 (two years ago) link

this is making me want to do a poll for just hip-hop music videos

jammin on the dud (Spottie), Wednesday, 23 March 2022 20:45 (two years ago) link

would participate

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, 24 March 2022 16:19 (two years ago) link

after i finished my ballot i made a youtube playlist of it, then i had the bright idea to expand it to 100 places, so here's the finished product:

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLlRIBtlBJdQ_IZV5yzhr1MnbzHhjbes9-

pretty proud of it, very rewarding project! i've wanted to do something like this since youtube first came into existence and now a majority of the videos have hd upgrades

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, 24 March 2022 16:20 (two years ago) link

that link doesn't work because of the weird hyphen at the end, so here's the real link:

brad's all-time top 100 favorite music videos ever

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, 24 March 2022 16:22 (two years ago) link

Good selecting. I'm happy anyone else has seen and loves "Y Control."

billstevejim, Thursday, 24 March 2022 16:32 (two years ago) link

nice brad! lots of crossover with my favs

jammin on the dud (Spottie), Thursday, 24 March 2022 18:03 (two years ago) link

Totally forgot something I'm almost certain I would have voted for: Paul Simon's "Me and Julio Down by the Schoolyard." I think it was made a couple of years after Graceland; it starts with Big Daddy Kane and Biz Markie. When Mickey Mantle shows up, it's as sublime a moment as Paul McCartney in "They Don't Know"--obviously Paul Simon's dream as a kid, to be pitching to Mickey Mantle, and suddenly there he is. Near the end, another sports icon.

clemenza, Saturday, 26 March 2022 16:13 (two years ago) link

two months pass...

I didn't vote in the Broadcast poll, because I really only remember (and love) "Echo's Answer," but I wish I'd known about this for the video poll.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yEz1eZmUco

clemenza, Sunday, 5 June 2022 01:03 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

AV Club predictably making some eye rolling choices. https://www.avclub.com/50-greatest-music-videos-ranked-1850820669/slides/52

Dan Worsley, Tuesday, 12 September 2023 21:42 (seven months ago) link

Very quickly scanning, but yeah. If you could generate a Masterpiece Theatre equivalent of a greatest-videos list, this would be it. (Which is not to imply that most of the famous ones here are boring but good--they're boring and bad.)

clemenza, Tuesday, 12 September 2023 22:19 (seven months ago) link


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