The Michael Mann poll

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Mann directed the first episode of this, too.

He's also in pre-production on an Enzo Ferrari biopic starring Adam Driver. The Jez Butterworth screenplay that become Ford v. Ferrari was originally a Mann project.

He's getting up there in age. I hope we'll see another good movie from him.

deep luminous trombone (Eazy), Monday, 14 March 2022 22:57 (two years ago) link

Don't give a poop about a Ferrari movie - leave that shit to Ridley Scott - but I saw something about a Michael Mann sci-fi project ...

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 14 March 2022 23:03 (two years ago) link

Ford v Ferrari was a good movie, though!

mh, Monday, 14 March 2022 23:18 (two years ago) link

I read the book Tokyo Vice is based on - looking forward to this

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 15 March 2022 04:59 (two years ago) link

ugh ansel elgort. i'll watch this but still ugh.

na (NA), Tuesday, 15 March 2022 14:13 (two years ago) link

three weeks pass...

First episode is really good so far. Very Mann. Totally cold open. Looks beautiful.

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 8 April 2022 23:31 (two years ago) link

Yeah, loved the opening, loved the setting and also how dialogue could seem credibly "stilted" given the cultural and language barriers between the characters.

deep luminous trombone (Eazy), Friday, 8 April 2022 23:33 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

echoing the sentiment of THE THIEF being underrated i this poll, a glorious mess of a marxist parable

k3vin k., Monday, 25 April 2022 23:49 (one year ago) link

I watched Hacker (or Blackhat) yesterday and...it was pretty bad.
I LOVE Miami Vice (and mojitos) and this one had some Mann touches that were great (the glorious shots over HK or in the port at night for instance) but the whole thing is kind of a mess and doesn't gel or make sense imo (for instance the silly final fight).
and most of the actors didn't help (particularly bad acting/lack of charism for the heroine).
It all felt like an inferior, botched variation on MV.
It's surprising following the raving comments here but it just didn't work for me.

AlXTC from Paris, Tuesday, 3 May 2022 09:31 (one year ago) link

Pop's been watching the tv Miami Vice for two weeks, so I'm treating him now to the movie.

as shitty as life has been lately, this is the good stuff!

Deez NFTs (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 May 2022 17:21 (one year ago) link

watched the MV movie for the first time a few months ago and v much enjoyed its unabashed dad movie swag, Neanderthal i'm jealous that you are watching it with an actual dad. also the wife and i had great fun for weeks afterward spontaneously announcing to each other that we were fiends for mojitos.

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Tuesday, 3 May 2022 17:41 (one year ago) link

search ilx posts for "fiend for mojitos" and revel in the glory

mh, Tuesday, 3 May 2022 17:46 (one year ago) link

I tried watching Blackhat but scene where the (white) protagonist has the big idea of overlaying the routes of some couriers to the amazement of the Chinese cops was incredibly RMDE.

Human-shaped trash bag (Leee), Tuesday, 3 May 2022 17:49 (one year ago) link

i'm a disco guy

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 3 May 2022 17:56 (one year ago) link

mh it all makes sense now

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Tuesday, 3 May 2022 19:55 (one year ago) link

i'm a disco guy


Ahah aren’t we all ? John Ortiz is so cool in MV. He’s wasted in hackerblackhat

AlXTC from Paris, Tuesday, 3 May 2022 19:59 (one year ago) link

xp mojito eye open

mh, Wednesday, 4 May 2022 02:47 (one year ago) link

Thinking about the parallel between MV and hackerblackhat and about their respective main charachters :
the hero : crockett/hathaway
the sidekick : tubbs/dawai
the love interest : isabella/lien
the boss/colleague : trudy, lieutenant castillo / barrett, US marshal
the lil baddy : yero / kassar
the big baddy : montoya / sadak

They are ALL in a different league in MV, both the charachters and the actors performance.
Like do we even know what kind of music kassar enjoys, huh ?

AlXTC from Paris, Wednesday, 4 May 2022 10:01 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

added Thief to my list of awesome first films, there are many, and if someone wants to do a poll I can give you a lot of recommendations

Dan S, Saturday, 4 June 2022 01:36 (one year ago) link

From another thread:

Feel like someone should recut the end of Manhunter with Paradise by the Dashboard Light instead of In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida.

― sleep, that's where I'm the cousin of death (PBKR), Tuesday, June 7, 2022 3:28 PM (thirty-seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

deep luminous trombone (Eazy), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 16:15 (one year ago) link

Can’t believe Thief and Manhunter scored so low in the poll. His only essential movies alongside Heat

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 18:35 (one year ago) link

I think Thief might have been relatively low profile back when the poll was taken. It's subsequently been Criterion Collection-ed and whatnot so its reputation has grown. But yeah, it absolutely deserves to be number one here.

There's a Blu-Ray of Miami Vice sitting in my PO box right now; gonna pick it up tomorrow.

but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 19:38 (one year ago) link

Tokyo Vice renewed for second season.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 7 June 2022 19:58 (one year ago) link

i was giving them the benefit of the doubt for employing sexual predator ansel elgort for s1, assuming it was shot before those accusations came out (like west side story), but i guess it doesn't bother HBO if they're going to keep him around for s2

na (NA), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 20:18 (one year ago) link

MIAMI VICE (both cuts) is now streaming on HBO Max pic.twitter.com/fkLIPKQQQa

— Chris Evangelista (@cevangelista413) June 1, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 17 June 2022 19:32 (one year ago) link

is anyone here enough of a superfan/dad to read the heat 2 novel that's coming out this summer?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 17 June 2022 19:32 (one year ago) link

McCauley lives!

Slowzy LOLtidore (Neanderthal), Friday, 17 June 2022 19:33 (one year ago) link

I'm kind of inclined to listen to Heat 2 as an audiobook on long walks, just to experience the voices instead of sitting with it.

deep luminous trombone (Eazy), Friday, 17 June 2022 19:55 (one year ago) link

Also, did my annual-ish viewing of Miami Vice last night, and what stood out this time is the reflections of clouds on the water in a couple of scenes, especially the one on the first flight back that goes over...is that the Everglades?

deep luminous trombone (Eazy), Friday, 17 June 2022 19:59 (one year ago) link

Oh, I am waiting for that book.

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 17 June 2022 20:05 (one year ago) link

shocked they didn't get it out in time for father's day tbh

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 17 June 2022 20:07 (one year ago) link

preparing the "Great Ass!" collector's edition and they ran behind

Slowzy LOLtidore (Neanderthal), Friday, 17 June 2022 20:08 (one year ago) link

Also, did my annual-ish viewing of Miami Vice last night, and what stood out this time is the reflections of clouds on the water in a couple of scenes, especially the one on the first flight back that goes over...is that the Everglades?

The sound on the Blu-Ray is astonishing. There were some explosions early on, when the Nazis murder the federal agent, that I swear lifted my couch off the floor. My wife came in from the next room, behind a closed door, to see what the fuck had just happened.

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 17 June 2022 22:02 (one year ago) link

oh hell yeah, I haven't seen the cold open theatrical cut in years

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 17 June 2022 22:35 (one year ago) link

doing this tonight, but with the theatrical cut

me at 19: i need to watch new film a day so i can build extensive film knowledge in every category
me at 25: every single night im gonna get drunk and watch the first 30 minutes of miami vice until i pass out

— robert franco, wandering ronin (@responsiblerob) June 2, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 17 June 2022 23:19 (one year ago) link

The guy who plays the Nazi who says "pure, not that powdered shit you get in Nuyorico" is a local actor here. The week before the movie came out he was telling us he didn't know if he'd make the final cut.

Slowzy LOLtidore (Neanderthal), Friday, 17 June 2022 23:30 (one year ago) link

uh plz tell me about the heat 2 novel?

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 18 June 2022 03:21 (one year ago) link

June 17th HEAT will screen in 4K at Tribeca, preceded by a conversation with myself, Al Pacino, Robert DeNiro and Art Linson, moderated by Bilge Ebiri. The 4K remaster of the film on Ultra HD disc is out August 9th, same day my novel HEAT 2 written with Meg Gardiner hits shelves. pic.twitter.com/PM9TWU8Vj8

— Michael Mann (@MichaelMann) June 12, 2022



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— Michael Mann (@MichaelMann) January 19, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 18 June 2022 03:34 (one year ago) link

omg
i just added this to my local library hold list :D

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 18 June 2022 03:43 (one year ago) link

The 80s-ness of both Thief and Manhunter is kind of thrilling in retrospect

Dan S, Sunday, 19 June 2022 00:49 (one year ago) link

the serious demeanors of the characters, the overwrought phrases (“someone should blow this sick fuck out of his sox”), the clothes, idealized home life and sentimentalized home furnishings, the macho man obsession, music, lurid photography, and everything else about it feel like a kind of peak for that era of mainstream Hollywood in retrospect

Dan S, Monday, 20 June 2022 00:50 (one year ago) link

(speaking of Manhunter)

Dan S, Monday, 20 June 2022 00:50 (one year ago) link

although I hate In-a-Gadda-Da-Vida every time I encounter it

Dan S, Monday, 20 June 2022 00:52 (one year ago) link

Loved hearing Shriekback and "This Big Hush" because of Manhunter. Though it also has the worst end-credits song ("Heartbeat").

deep luminous trombone (Eazy), Monday, 20 June 2022 01:01 (one year ago) link

I didn't hate that

Dan S, Monday, 20 June 2022 01:22 (one year ago) link

Sometimes I,
Sometimes I,
Sometimes I understand it very clearly

those lyrics were kind of a summation of that movie

Dan S, Monday, 20 June 2022 01:36 (one year ago) link

I sometimes wonder who had the better grasp of musical undercurrents in the '80s, Michael Mann or John Hughes.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 20 June 2022 02:22 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

But while Heat 2 is arriving as a book first, Mann tells Empire that he very much intends to make it for the big screen too.

“It’s totally planned to be a movie,” Mann says in a major new interview in the upcoming Avatar: The Way Of Water issue. He’s aware that a cinematic version would be one hell of an undertaking – and though he ventured into serialised territory with this year’s Tokyo Vice series, he doesn’t see Heat 2 as a small-screen proposition. “Is it a modest movie? No. Is it a very expensive series? No,” he says. “It’s going to be one large movie.”

There are just a few sticking points. For one, De Niro and Kilmer wouldn’t be able to reprise their roles (“I love those guys, but they’d have to be six years younger than they were in Heat”).

Number None, Tuesday, 5 July 2022 20:44 (one year ago) link

More work for Pattinson.

deep luminous trombone (Eazy), Tuesday, 5 July 2022 22:28 (one year ago) link

Please send it to me! I have an action is the juice tattoo please pic.twitter.com/0xQJw398Hs

— Dylan Ellis (@dylellis) July 7, 2022

deep luminous trombone (Eazy), Friday, 8 July 2022 18:02 (one year ago) link


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