The catch-all JRPG thread : "Y'know, this game is not anime or spreadsheet-y enough"

now I want to go see if there's any economics work that's been published on comparing those two types of goods

2 fast, 2 furious

plying thru persona 3 fes again

not close to bonking mitsuru

yet

shes the 2nd to last chick u can get with

fyi other SEES chick whose name escapes me 4 LYFE

lol i wanna say asuka but i *know* thats not it

also lol if any1 else gets that ref - does cankles read this thread??

chihiro?

persona 3 soooooooo fkn good btw

like srsly

http://static.gamesradar.com/images/mb/GamesRadar/us/Games/P/Persona%203%20FES/Bulk%20Viewers/PS2/2008-03-13/44--article_blog_image.jpg

YAKURI \\

ws

WHAT

Playing Zenonia on the Iphone. It's fun so far! Not bad for $3!

Found Suidoken III for $15 used randomly at a Gamestop. I think I like this version better...

Found Suikoden Tactics for $8. Is this going to suck?

its... not great.

resonance of fate vs ffxiii

which do i buy? shld be a poll really but this is a good thread

FF for old time's sake

bizzump

Playing thru Chrono Trigger again. Kinda curious if any sprite RPGs will be shown at E3 or not.

Currently playing Radiant Historia, which is actually really great.

so i bought final fantasy iii, the DS remake. it's fun! but i've just got to the first point where the game kind of opens up a bit - the ship - and there's a vast cosmic ennui settling over me; i just want to let these little polygonal people alone to sort themselves out. i feel little compulsion to reopen the DS. i don't know if that's because of the big scheme of things -- some kind of evil is apparently taking over the world, but i'm not exactly sure how or who or what it is doing, since there is very little evidence as yet; or if it's because, i don't know, i have to wait three seconds every time a battle starts or ends, and mentally i find myself going, well, say two dozen fights per chunk of the game, and say two dozen chunks, say hey wait THAT'S A WHOLE HOUR OF MY LIFE I'M WASTING TO DO NOTHING

i mean, not that i'm wasting an hour playing the game -- i have no problem with that -- i will probably waste 25-50 hours playing the game, if it is about as long as i would expect it to be long -- but that i'm wasting an hour in which i am doing nothing at all for the privilege of wasting the other 24-49

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also some mechanical stuff is bothering me. there's no stat or skill holdover between jobs bar HP, and no bar to joining a particular class -- so i can spend the first half of the game with someone as a white mage and then turn them into an advanced fighter class as soon as those are unlocked, and bar the HP thing they'll be as good a fighter as someone who spent the whole game a warrior. whereas if i turn that warrior into a mage they'll be a better mage (well, one with higher HP.)

also if you put everyone into the back row they all take less damage and argh that is stupid if there is only one row

this would bother me less if i hadn't just finished a dungeon where you have to be under a status effect causing yr physical attacks to do nothing, so the game requires you, basically, to make an all-magic team and put them all on the 'back' 'row'. grrrrr

there's no stat or skill holdover between jobs bar HP, and no bar to joining a particular class -- so i can spend the first half of the game with someone as a white mage and then turn them into an advanced fighter class as soon as those are unlocked, and bar the HP thing they'll be as good a fighter as someone who spent the whole game a warrior. whereas if i turn that warrior into a mage they'll be a better mage (well, one with higher HP.)

well there is transition time as bar to joining every class, as well as resetting your character's effective job level (which is typically more important than base stats in dealing damage). generally i think its frustrating that the game punishes you so much for playing around with classes - i.e. that you get 30 job levels into white mage & have a really effective healer, switch to a devout and to start you're actually worse at healing.

the hp thing feels like a wash tho since you shouldnt be spending enough turns in battles for higher HP totals to offset the cost in 'wasted' job levels for your support characters ime

i dunno about the transition time. i was looking at how the original does it -- you earn and then spend points from battles -- and that seems like a better barrier to constant respec than the transition time does, since (it seems like) every time you're required to do it you can just hang out somewhere near an inn / heal pool and just fight a half dozen easy fights

it hadn't occurred to me (from the faq i was skimming, oy) that yr white mage to devout example is a corollary to the no carry-over rule. that is also pretty annoying sounding

yeah transition time is mostly avoidable but i feel like its the games attempt to do what your talking about - classes with similar affinities require fewer 'penalty' battles than those with disparate skills - but in the end it only makes the game less strategic. like there were a couple of situations where i might have liked to switch classes before the final boss in a dungeon but either had to grind out 7 or so additional battles in order to get my stats back to normal or just power through w/ the classes i was using for the dungeon proper.

i think they replaced the point-buy system with job levels which yeah, is probably a worse system but harder for the player to fuck up.

also the producer and director kind of look like asian fry and laurie

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fe/Hiromichi_Tanaka_and_Tomoya_Asano.jpg

hum. i think this might be relegated to insomnia and train journey coping device

No that is kind of true! I see Fry more than Laurie thpugh.

haha yeah i was going to say asian fry & asian guy standing beside fry (laurie by default)

i'm now playing four heroes of light instead, which so far has almost exactly the same plot / is probably what a remake of ffiii should have looked like

actions all come from a common stock of AP, which replenish at one per turn, two if you defend. attack takes one, spells take two; ie. the effective cost of attacking is 0, defending is -1, magic is 1. however, your job can affect this: black mages only use 1 to cast offensive magic being probably the most helpful example, also white mages only 1 to cure. also, you can set your battle actions to repeat indefinitely; you can leave this running over more than one battle. SO you can then set up 'magic enemies here are weak to / attack / cure' for your team to do and not have to i. worry about "saving" mp for bosses / ii. enter the commands for the xth time once you've figured out the most efficient thing to do in a given area

^ this means i like it

HOWEVER no one has done a hyper-nerdy analysis of the hidden numbers involved, which makes me a little twitchy. i don't even know if my job class is affecting stat gains, how can i live

ah, I was thinking of starting a thread on how that kinda stuff on the internet ruins games for me... not really the plot spoilers so much as the levelling & strategy guides

i dunno, i think there's a lack of transparency in games of this sort which bothers me a lot

-- i. manuals/ingame instructions have to be readable by your average ten-year-old and her mother
-- ii. they want to sell the official strategy guide
-- iii. they're aware that a vast internet culture exists to do your work for you

if u play one of the old d&d games like 'eye of the beholder' or 'warriors of the eternal sun' then you know that when yr fighter gains a level he gains 1d8 hit points, this seems essentially fair

when one of my characters gains a level in ff:fhol they gain ... some numbers

i think kieron gillen wrote a big screed somewhere about how mechanics spoilers should be afforded the same / more weight than plot spoilers.

agree with that, many (most?) game plots are just flimsy cover for the development of the mechanics anyway

sweeping generalisations ahoy of course...

it is? the mechanics of most RPGs don't change terribly from the opening hour... maybe I'm not understanding you guys correctly...

SUP BROS GUESS WHO BOUGHT DISGAEA 4: A PROMISE UNFORGOTTEN

http://i52.tinypic.com/2cpt8g3.jpg

hmmmm

50 hours into Xenoblade now
game just keeps on giving

http://whatculture.com/gaming/ni-no-kuni-coming-to-north-america-early-2012.php

get hype

whoa, may have to buckle down and get a ps3 for that

i have been waiting FIVE YEARS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AilUYs52DXY
go to youtube for the HD version

oh wait, you can do that from here

oh, Lamp hyped this game 4 days ago. My bad

75 hours on Xenoblade now
don't want this to end :/
this is the game FFXIII should have been

This is an import?

zappi might live in Austrailia

yeah, can't play this on a US wii right?

EU, mofos
if you are in US its simple to mod yr console http://gwht.wikidot.com/for-dummies