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the weird thing, is that with the big and rich song, there has to be a swagger, same with the messina, and well no swagger at all, they care too deeply to be loose with the material,

and well, lets not talk about the guy who did the charlie daniels, the desperation and exhaustion and sadness and esmaculation and all of it hiding behind this played out masculinity...its a hard song to sing, and he was so safe, people shouldnt play broken hearted drinking songs until theyve had enough time to be well be broken hearted and drunk--last week the same thing happened with tequilla, unless you actually have spent time on a bender, the lavisoucness just doesnt slither out...

and cowboy troy is just awkard, he doesnt know where to go and what to say...

anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 08:13 (eighteen years ago) link

> Brox: best record since 24 Hours A Day, which is probably their best record over all<

Really? *Blue Sky* is the only album by them that's ever really clicked for me, and that one only half way; I mean, I liked "Baggage Claim" just fine, but despite their trappings they always seemed to wind up on the wrong side of the alt-country vs. southern rock divide to my ears. Haven't listened to the new one yet, though. And perhaps I should listen to their old ones more (though outside of *Blue Sky,* none are around here anymore.) (I was thinking I liked some almost pub-metal/Count Bishops song they did in the mid/late '90s with "rural route" in the title, but I'm not finding it on AMG; maybe I'm confusing them with somebody. Either way, I always wished their guitars were louder, a la the Cactus Brothers.)

ps. I never knew Bottle Rockets' nickname was "the Brox" til now. But I figured it out!

xhuxk, Wednesday, 22 March 2006 12:08 (eighteen years ago) link

"Rural Route" is on their first album, which could be out of print for all I know. I'm not sure what you mean about the alt-country vs. southern rock divide though. Maybe not enough r&b in their sound? If that's the case, then you might like that sobriety tune on the new record--first Bottle Rocket song with female back up vocals? But "Baggage Claim" always struck me as stilted--I have no beef with Bread but that's not why I listen to this band. I think you'll like the guitars on the new one.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 13:14 (eighteen years ago) link

Not enough rock in their sound is more what I mean, Roy. "Kinda rock for an alt-country band" is nice, but not enough. But yeah, I'll check out the new one, and I can see how some funk or soul might help matters too. (And though "Baggage Claim" is the track that sticks in my head from the last album, I'm not claiming that was necessary its best cut. Don't think I've played that CD since the year it came out.)

xhuxk, Wednesday, 22 March 2006 13:52 (eighteen years ago) link

It's a mark of my taste that I tend to get interested when (especially) Chuck mentions on this thread that something "doesn't have enough rock in it". I can't really stomach the rock, or the rock end of country.

There's no reason whatsoever you should be interested in this fact.

Tim (Tim), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 14:14 (eighteen years ago) link

Don, as far as I know, "Plane Wreck at Los Gatos" is the correct title of the Woody song that people tend to refer to as "Deportee." The plane crashed by the South Bay, the newscaster described the victims as "just deportees," that's what inspired the song. (I wouldn't be surprised if there were several songs called "Deportee," but I doubt that they'd be by Guthrie.)

Xhuxk, I was thinking that "Devil" was Kid's first. I think American Badass is the one I was calling his second. And of course I don't necessarily believe it needs to be Rage-type guys who back him up. Just someone to lay down some fire. My impression (and this may be very wrong, since I haven't listened to nearly enough of it) is that his singing nowadays is trying to be straight-up legitimate, whereas I think he needs something to provide him cover so that he can do what he does best, which is to do some variation on sing-talking. As I said, this could be all wrong, including my opinion on what he does best.

"Picture" felt like slow, dead sentimentality pinned to the near calm sky. But I've not heard it more than 3 or 4 times, and not recently.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 16:11 (eighteen years ago) link

(I listened to the Rage Against the Machine because I was impressed with how Flyleaf seemed to be finding the dance in Rage and Nirvana and using it to lift a live-wire wailer to the spotlight, where she pours her melodic-harmonic heart out in the higher registers, and roar with the wolves in the lower. But I wouldn't claim that Flyleaf are close to country, so if I need to say more I'll take it to the teenpop thread.)

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 16:17 (eighteen years ago) link

did nathalie merchant do a cover of ...los gatos?

anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 16:24 (eighteen years ago) link

Maybe Flyleaf belong on the metal thread, too, Frank! (Girlie says they're sending me the album, but I haven't seen it yet. And oh yeah, I'm going to call you about your review of it later today.)

Turns out I goofed; there's no Kid Rock LP called *American Bad Ass*. Shows what I know. That was the single off *The History of Rock,* which was mainly sort of an odds-and-sods early years comp, duh:

http://www.villagevoice.com/music/0027,eddy,16173,22.html

"Picture"'s beautiful-loser bullshit actually sounds fairly lush and billowing and good-humored to my ears, not dead or draggy at all.

xhuxk, Wednesday, 22 March 2006 16:32 (eighteen years ago) link

And oh yeah, I'd say his "legitimate singing" attempts (which I often enjoy, often more than his rapping attempts) are still more the exception in Kid's repertoire than the rule. (And I love where RJ says Kid raps better than George Jones and sings better than Jay-Z.)

xhuxk, Wednesday, 22 March 2006 16:34 (eighteen years ago) link

Not enough rock in their sound is more what I mean

That totally baffles me, which only means I'm all the more interested to hear your take on the new record!

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 16:43 (eighteen years ago) link

Has Gina Villalobos been mentioned yet? I just heard her new record "Miles Away," and a lot of it kicks, not unlike Miranda or Gretchen, but with a scratchy still wide-open voice. "Somebody Save Me" would sound great on country radio.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 19:07 (eighteen years ago) link

>That totally baffles me<

A couple songs into the new one, I'd classify them more as "loud folk music" (or, in Chris Cook's great old Pearl Jam formulation, "loud mush") than as a rock band. The guitar blur is there; the rocking from drums and bass is not. Basically, they sound like an alt-country band with louder guitars. I'm gonna shelve them for a little bit; will come back to it some other time. Hope that's not too baffling!

xhuxk, Wednesday, 22 March 2006 19:20 (eighteen years ago) link

They sound weak-kneed, somehow. (Actually, who they were making me think of wasn't Pearl Jam at all. More like an alt-countrified late Soul Asylum, maybe. And I wish Soul Asylum were more rock, too!)

xhuxk, Wednesday, 22 March 2006 19:24 (eighteen years ago) link

The Soul Asylum comparison is interesting--something I never thought about before, but, yeah, I can kinda hear that, especially on the first track.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 19:31 (eighteen years ago) link

xpost yeah, I realized as soon as I'd posted, that I'd listed two dif titles for the same Guthrie song. Anthony, I don't know if Natalie's recorded "Los Gatos (AKA Deportee)," but Dolly Parton did a good version of it, although involved some 80s synthesised strings, as I recall: the wrong flavor of cheese,for me(though many peoples like it). Natalie was good on the Mermaid Avenue albums (surprising me, as did all the other performers, except Corey Harris, who's usually good). So maybe she should record this too; very timely. I guess Woody might say we really need Industrial Workers of the World to sign everybody up, and make sure they don't have to flee to the land of the carpetbaggers to try and make a living wage (good luck). There were at least two versions of "Picture" that got some airplay (also maybe CMT played the version from that Kid Rock/Hank Jr. Crossroads I sent you on VHS, xxhux). Dif duet partners, presumably cos Sheryl's people didn't want her own product crowded by the single. One of these may've been worse than the other (and may've been heard more by Frank than by xxhux or whomever)

don, Wednesday, 22 March 2006 19:37 (eighteen years ago) link

Side note on Deportees: Woody wrote the lyrics, but there was no melody till Martin Hoffman, a cohort of Judy Collins, put it to music in the late '50s. A few years after that, Hoffman killed himself.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 19:46 (eighteen years ago) link

I only know "Deportee" from the Byrds' version on "Ballad of Easy Rider," isn't it?

I like the Shawn Camp record OK...Nashville in its second Billy Swan, or Roy A. Loney, phase, perhaps? A rockabilly record from 1979? anyway, someone (they left the byline off the online version, and the print Scene don't make it up on the ridge here on Wednesdays) did an interesting piece on it today. turns out the guy wrote half of Josh Turner's latest record, so he's not lacking for rockabilly boots or panties, I suppose (and there's something by me in same issue on Jamey Johnson):

http://www.nashvillescene.com/Stories/Arts/Music/2006/03/23/Swingin_/index.shtml

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Thursday, 23 March 2006 01:16 (eighteen years ago) link

I only know "Deportee" from the Mofungo version on *Messenger Dogs of the Gods*! (I am such a secret Lower East Side bohemian it's not funny anymore.)

xhuxk, Thursday, 23 March 2006 01:20 (eighteen years ago) link

i dont know who mofungo is

anthony easton (anthony), Thursday, 23 March 2006 01:24 (eighteen years ago) link

The Scene Is Now-connected second-generation NY no wave band of a commie persuasion. Frank could tell you more than I can about them. Not to be confused with: ""mofongo," a fried plantain concoction which Julio introduced on Sanford and Son."

http://bomplist.xnet2.com/0204/msg03130.html

However, interestingly enough:

http://home.sprynet.com/~galligan/sietsema.htm

xhuxk, Thursday, 23 March 2006 01:33 (eighteen years ago) link

lindsey & kathy, 4-song teen-pop country bubblegum rock EP by two teen florida sisters said on their cdbaby page to also be former child actors on a PBS kids' show called "the huggabug club" not to mention daughters of a pro baseball player i never heard of: first song is yet another "walmart parking lot" song, different than chris cagle's and probably closer spiritually to shannon brown's "cornfed"; in this one, you get things-frank-would-(probably accurately)-call-lies like "no one's complaining about nothing changing here" and stuff about how the local paper only has a page or two which is enough for the news in such a small town and there's only one button on the radio dial which of course plays country so it's "kinda like livin' in the past," okay, the usual myth, but who the hell said songs were supposed to be honest anyway? sound is like a fast early tom petty tune or something, though maybe somebody can figure out a more accurate '80s pop-rock referent for the guitar parts. second song is about a breakup the singer wishes didn't happen, very nice, and helped out what i believe to be a bassline from the doobie brothers' "listen to the music." third song is more bluegrass/folk trad, and the place the sisters' sibling harmonies most shine. and the last song is maybe the most interesting -- not country at all, way more like lisa lisa losing herself in emotion or deniece williams hearing it for the boy in the mid '80s. updated '60s girl group, in other words; in fact, the updating might be accidental. and it works; people who've listened to that *one kiss leads to another* box more than me should figure out what REAL girl group singer it sounds like.

xhuxk, Thursday, 23 March 2006 19:32 (eighteen years ago) link

oops, lindsey & KRISTY, not Kathy:

http://cdbaby.com/cd/lindseykristy

And it's a picture disc!

xhuxk, Thursday, 23 March 2006 19:38 (eighteen years ago) link

Niedenfuer was a pitcher for the Dodgers and Twins. I'm sure I have a couple of his baseball cards at my mom's house.

Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Thursday, 23 March 2006 19:56 (eighteen years ago) link

But I hear as much Amazulu as Lisa Lisa in that last song, and little to no '60s girl-group referent, I'm afraid.

Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Thursday, 23 March 2006 20:13 (eighteen years ago) link

Wow, you could be right, seeing as how I have no idea whether I've heard Amazulu, Joseph. (Would that make this the first Amazulu-influenced country track in history? I checked AMG, and Amazulu has a very weird haircut!) As for the girl-group thing, all I can say is that I thought "this sounds like a '60s girl group song" BEFORE I thought "this sounds like an '80s Lisa Lisa update of a '60s girl group song." I'm sure it's there; maybe eventually I'll think of a way to more precisely explain where I hear it. (Unlike Frank and some other folks on this thread, I'm not great at explaining what singing voices are doing.)

xhuxk, Friday, 24 March 2006 00:27 (eighteen years ago) link

RIP Cindy Walker. She was 87 years old. Willie's tribute to her this year is good and timely. "You Don't Know Me" is a desert island song, in more ways than one.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Friday, 24 March 2006 15:53 (eighteen years ago) link

from metal thead:

http://cdbaby.com/cd/kathyx

Kathy X, *Ready for Anything*: minimalist clippity-clop semi-hopped-up rockabilly rhythm from two not-so-young guys who keep their mouths shut provides frame for a not-so-young woman to both rant in endearingly tuneful semi-hiccuped british accent and steal noisy link wray twangs in short songs about cat fights and demon possession, plus one joan jett cover. energetic, in a way closer to girlschool than the stray cats. i like "love they neighbor," "i love rock'n'roll," "ready for anything," "let the devil in," "bitch like you," "black box" (for starters.)

xhuxk, Friday, 24 March 2006 16:01 (eighteen years ago) link

(band is based in berlin, and their record label is in warsaw, apparently. drummer has a pretty impressive resume', judging from the cdbaby page--wonder if he worked with all those rock'n'roll immortals on oldies tours, or what. and i know, "i love rock'n'roll" is technically an arrows cover, not a joan jett cover.) (just like "tainted love" is gloria jones and "bette davis eyes" is jackie deshannon, right.)

xhuxk, Friday, 24 March 2006 16:23 (eighteen years ago) link

First off, pay your respects:

RIP BUCK OWENS

second off, i just got back from princeton record exchange, where i unloaded somewhere between 15 and 20 huge boxes of CDs I don't need. on the way there and back i decided that dale watson's *whiskey and god,* which even has a funky country rap song about a transvestite not to mention a song about a woman with the impossible dimensions 38-21-34, is probably my favorite '06 country album so far unless maybe if carrie underwood counts. also, i bought/traded for these (mostly but not all country) CDs, which i am listing in descending order of how much i predict i will wind up liking them. if you know something about them that i don't, feel free to predict otherwise, but realize first that i cheated a little bit by listening to parts of maybe half of them on the way home. (also, the prices listed are the sticker prices; since i traded in CDs, they're actually cost me less):

1. toby keith *honky tonky university* 2005 $3.99 (i never heard "big blue note" before, and i like its sing-talking but was surprised to find out its music apparently contains no big blue notes. also i'm realizing i much prefer funny toby to sincere toby, which means, outside of the three hits, my favorite track so far is "just the guy to do it," where he picks a fight with a knucklehead in a bar. also i'm sad to learn the album does not contain toby's current billboard c&w hit with the intriguing drinking title, which i have still yet to hear.)
2. akon *trouble* 2003 $2.99 (not country)
3. status quo *heavy traffic* 2002 $3.99 (not country, but probably boogie)
4. *texas bohemia: polka-waltzes-schottisches: the texas bohemian moravian-german bands* (tritonkt german import compilation) 1994 $3.99
5. lee ann womack *lee ann womack* 1997 $1.99 (autograhed by her on the CD cover!)
6. carlene carter *i fell in love* 1990 $2.99 (title track sounds familiar, so i guess maybe it was a hit? it also sounds like a nick lowe song, though he apparently didn't write it)
7. smegma *ism* 1993 $1.99 (not country, and i may well wind up hating it, i dunno)
8. kaci brown *instigator* 2005 $1.99 (who is she? she looks young. and i'm assuming she's country because that's where three copies of her CD were filed, and i think i heard of her before, possibly either in billboard or on one of these rolling country threads.)
9. cock robin *after here through midland* 1987 $3.99 (not country, but with harmonies anyway. i've long wondered what their deal was. maybe joe mccombs can explain them to me. who was their audience? i've long wondered if maybe they were like a lesser version of quarterflash or something, but the guy's voice on the couple tracks i listened to sounds british or aussie--maybe more like dream academy or icicle works, whatever that means.)
10. sweethearts of the rodeo *beautiful lies* 1996 $4.99 (on sugar hill records, but didn't they have country chart hits earlier? i've never heard an album by them before; bought this because "midnight girl in a sunset town" has long been my favorite song on the k-tel dance country CD i mention upthread. the songs i heard on this so far are not bad, but also nowhere near that good. they do cover "muleskinner blues," though - -that's a jimmie rodgers classic, right? but why the hell would somebody want to skin a mule, anyway?)
11. jamey johnson *jamey johnson* 2006 $3.99 (i could wind up liking this more than this placement suggests, but "the dollar," which i'd never heard before, disappointed me on first hearing after all the compliments it's received on this thread and even from christgau. seemed sappy. the cat's in the cradle with the silver spoon, little boy blue and the man in the moon when you coming home dad i don't know when, we'll get together then son etc.)

xhuxk, Saturday, 25 March 2006 23:04 (eighteen years ago) link

The Status Quo album is fair and a lot better than the mostly toothless things preceding it for a great many years. It's very poppy and catchy but there is a little boogie chug to it. Nothing like the early to mid-70's but not without some merit. They're in the same place as Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers in terms of toughness. They look denim but it's middle-aged and upscale. There is some country to it, too, since Rossi has been incorporating it in his writing for a good long while.

The live DVD of 'em doing their modern show really kills though. The band just shreds when the two Telecasters get going on the stomping parts. But they don't do that so much on the contemporary records.

George 'the Animal' Steele, Sunday, 26 March 2006 00:02 (eighteen years ago) link

Chuck, Toby Keith releases albums too quickly for your own good! His new one *White Trash With Money* hits on April 11. That's the one with "Get Drunk and Be Somebody" (which I likewise haven't heard).

Cock Robin, I lump in with sophistipop of the period like Prefab Sprout, Danny Wilson, Blow Monkeys, and Style Council. And indeed, Dream Academy. I'm partial to that kind of stuff but then again I've never been accused of rocking too hard.

Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Sunday, 26 March 2006 02:04 (eighteen years ago) link

(In other words, their audience was the kids who were in band, rather than the kids who were in a band.)

(Oh, and add Double ["Captain of Her Heart"] to my list above.)

Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Sunday, 26 March 2006 02:08 (eighteen years ago) link

Great description of Cock Robin's audience, Joseph, thanks! And yeah, they sound like a band that would have been played at band camp, I get that. As for Toby: That's frustrating!

Best songs on Dale Watson album: "Whiskey or God" (vs. "Drugs or Jesus," though Dale picks both -- in another song he mentions pills too by the way); "No Help Wanted" (as in "Get a Job" or Gary US Bonds's "Out of Work', with Dale stuck in a truckstop in Pittsburgh PA -- only thing is, for some reason I can't imagine truckdrivers being unemployed! Seems there could never be enough of them, but what the hell do I know?); "Truckin' Queen (I Got My Night Gown On..)" (imagine Jerry Reed in "Amos Moses" mode doing "Where's the Dress" crossed with "C.B. Savage" and you'll maybe get the idea -- the tranny is a trucker DJ in KC, and the song ain't remotely homophobic by the way near as I can tell; Dale seems in awe of the guy); "I Wish I Was Crazy Again"; "Heeah!!". Second tier: "Sit and Drink and Cry," "I Ain't Been Right Since I've Been Left," "Tequila and Teardrops," "38-21-34"; "Outta Luck." I'm still wondering if this album's a huge leap, or if he's always been this good.

Of those Princeton Record Exchange albums, the Bohemian Texas polkaholics seem to be winning. The Toby album has four or so great tracks surrounded by too many sincere love ballads. An interesting move for him, but not always an entertaining one. But maybe the slow songs'll kick in later -- Toby's showing off his voice, which deserves to be shown off.

xhuxk, Sunday, 26 March 2006 16:19 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm a fan of Dale Watson, so long as he keeps off the subject of Princess Diana.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 26 March 2006 16:31 (eighteen years ago) link

Tea Leaf Green's Taught to Be Proud finally showed up. It's pretty much as xhuxk said months ago. I keep hearing "China Cat Sunflower" in it. Best material seems to be the last three tunes, don't know why, maybe it's worn a hole in my brain by that point. Nice Rhodes pianner playing which is slightly roadhouse in style and the guitarist has a dirtier, more explosive tone than the usual Dead axe fanatics. All of it's midtempo which works for them. I generally have no taste for jam bands but this one I'll be keeping around, perhaps because no one in the band sounds like Jerry Garcia. Their promo says they have Faces influences but if so, they're mostly impaginary to my ears, except for the piano.

And they will be coming to NYC in April.

George 'the Animal' Steele, Sunday, 26 March 2006 16:55 (eighteen years ago) link

they're not really a jamband, despite some similiarity to Dead (studio) approach(see my post upthread).xpost xxhux, did you ever try googling the term "Tex Czech"? Some good stuff they did (a Rounder polka comp, I heard once, OOP I think), though a localized scene. Seems to've incl. swing and rockabilly in (live) practice, despite some more purist collections. (Was intrigued by Associated Press Buck Owens obit inclu quote about when he moved to Bakerfield in '51, "We played rhumbas and tangos and sambas and swing, and a lotta rock 'n' roll." Also said that later he referred to what he did [on his records] as "American music," and some asked him: "Isn't country music good enough for you anymore?" And he got to where he was more into his outside business interests than the Biz process, because "I never did want to hang around like some old punchdrunk fighter.")xpost I think Carlene's "I Fell In Love" was written by Al Anderson, ex-NRBQ; at least, he and she were having a rave-up with it, when I saw 'em on Austin City Limits (so astonished I forgot to hit "Record"). He's written a lot of other good songs too.

don, Sunday, 26 March 2006 21:21 (eighteen years ago) link

actual songwriting credit is: Carlene Carter/Howie Epstein/Benmont Tench/Perry Lamek. ("The Sweetest Thing" on that album gives partical credit to Robert Ellis Orrall, who I've brought up a couple times on this thread. And more interestingly, "The Leavin' Side" gives partial credit to one Tom Gray: I wonder if that's the same guy who used to lead the Brains, of "Money Changes Everything" fame! They were Southerners, from Atlanta, right? So it wouldn't have been out of the question for him to go the country songwriting route.)

and yeah, I still need to research me some Tex Czech one of these Saturdays.

and finally, I forgot to mention that Cock Robin have a really weird name.

xhuxk, Sunday, 26 March 2006 22:44 (eighteen years ago) link

it's from the poem, right? "who killed cock robin".

i guess i should listen to that dale watson album, it's been sitting on my coffee table for two weeks. and funny you mention robert ellis orrall because i thought he'd long ago vanished. i remember him because i saw him (in his new wave days) open for u2 on the war tour. it was my first-ever rock'n'roll show so i thought he was cool even though he probably wasn't.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Sunday, 26 March 2006 23:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Took a stroll to the news tab and Tea Leaf Green have a share of publicity, some of it rote, but in response to the tour building up a head of steam.

Excerpting, unfootnoted:


The problem is that after the first 30 seconds of “The Garden (Part III),” the opening track on Taught To Be Proud, I was ready to forcibly rip the CD from my computer and fling it from the nearest window. Jam band? Ugh.

Bouncy, semi funky drum track? Check. Rhythmically shaky and slightly off pitch backup vocals? Check! Looming shadows of Grateful Dead, Phish, Widespread Panic and the Allman Brothers? Super double check!

How many bands of well meaning college students (with guitars) have beaten this poor little Birkenstock-clad and patchouli-scented donkey-of-a-musical-movement into the dust over the past 15 years? Hmm?

But upon further listening, I started finding the good stuff lurking in the corners. Trevor Garrod’s vocals call up some combination of the Jayhawks’ Mark Olson, Neil Young and the illustrious Paul Simon — all great. His wah-wah Rhodes solo in the title track is groovy and well played. “John Brown” is a moody, little, historical tale peppered with some “20/20 hindsight” observation. After a few spins, one begins to notice that for all the jammy affectations, there’s real potential for good songs. Heck, there ARE good songs on this album. They just get

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Headin’ Down to Bonnaroo

The band burst into the “jamband” scene with a stellar performance at Northern California’s High Sierra Music Festival in 2000. Five years later, the group found itself in front of ten thousand screaming fans at Tennessee’s fourth annual Bonnaroo Music and Arts Festival.

“It was of one of those special shows that reminds you why you want to perform in front of people,” Chambers says. “The crowd was just on fire. I mean it was one o’clock in the afternoon and 100 degrees out, and ten thousand people still showed up to see us play.”

Quite suddenly, Tea Leaf Green had morphed into a venerable tour de force on the scene. The group expanded its performance schedule, and fans—many of whom just wanted to see what the fuss was about—came out accordingly. In less than six years, the band went from playing Bay Area house parties to posh East Coast theatres three thousand miles away from home.

“Now it’s getting a lot better for us,” Chambers says. “We’re making more money, getting bigger crowds—I mean we’re still all poor—but it’s nicer. We can actually expect people to be at the shows now, as opposed to two years ago we’d be happy to have 50 people there.”

Living Organically

Tea Leaf Green, like many of the group’s “jamband” brethren, knows not of radio airplay or MTV videos. Chambers says things like grassroots promotion on Internet message boards and opening for former Phish frontman Trey Anastasio have been keys to the band’s success.

“It was great playing with Trey and meeting him,” Chambers says. “He told us a lot of fun stories of what he went through in the early Phish days in comparison to
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George 'the Animal' Steele, Monday, 27 March 2006 00:04 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah" good stuff lurking in the corners" like guitarist, as I xpost kinda behind the treeline of piano's sparkling stream and rhythm section's piano-obedient rhythms. Guitar sometimes led downstage, like in aforementioned "5000 Acres," but Trevor's stage whisper and keyboard are right there too, just so's we don't forget who's the avatar. So, as with Umphrey McGee's Anchor Drops, various attempts by Phish, etc., this is the jamband showing they can make a studio album, eh. I bet Trevor's got one of those pianos that prints out transcriptions of the parts he assigns the other guys (with sections marked for brief impromptu). The lucidity of his voice makes some of the words seem more lucid than they are, but that's what voices are for. Just wish there was a bit more variety; maybe they'll stretch out a bit on the next one. Speaking of Buck Owens, he and Dwight are singing "Streets Of Bakersfield" on CMT rat now. They're a good match. When I first heard Buffalo Springfield's "Mr. Soul," I thought it sounded like Buck (not that I knew anything about country, other than seeing him on Hee Haw). Too bad he and Neil never recorded. Wonder how Prarie Wind is? Or his Nashville performance doc?

don, Monday, 27 March 2006 18:58 (eighteen years ago) link

P-r-a-i-r-i-e Wind, that is, I think. Speaking of Nashville performances, Turner Classic Movies showed Nashville the movie a couple times recently. I hadn't seen it since it first came out (at a nearby shopping center, not even a mall, and the audience was talking back to the screen, sounding like Altman characters, as did the collegiate audience at an Altman Festival a few years later). Some of the few good rock critics who were closely following country back then took offense, thought it was Hollywood snot. But the satirical aspect seems pretty droll, scoring pretty much the same points that those same crits, and many country songs, have made, before and after the movie. Although mostly after: this may well have been the first movie to take Nashville seriously enough to bother with well-placed, countrystyle deadpan zingers. (The hero of Hee Haw was always Junior Samples, who could not read a cue card: "subversive," in critspeak.) Some of the actor-written songs were crappier than real-Biz objective correlative (TS Eliot critspeak!) But most were about even, as with those of Henry Gibson's Acuff figure, who was also much more diplomatic (as an elder statesman should be) than the actual Acuff, well-known for his countryier-than-thou-ness(as displayed on many Opry broadcasts, and much worse offstage, from what I've read). And I'd completely forgotten how good, how sensuous and sweet, but never cloying, were the songs of the Loretta figure, Ronee Blakely. Best of all was Cristina Raines. She was in a trio with her husband (played by ?) and her lover, Keith Carradine. (Was this kinda based on Mamas And Papas, Stone Poneys?) Given what a (possibly desperate, certainly compulsive)ahole he was turning out to be, he may well have started sleeping with her only when he decided to leave the group, or maybe their screwing helped him decide. But there she was on stage with 'em both, having had a fight with hubbie in front of a reporter, and having seen that other women (including the reporter, Geraldine Chaplin) thought that KC wrote his bedsong(the crappy, but plausibly passive-aggressive, and Oscar-winning)"I'm Easy," for each and every one of they-um. (Lily Tomlin too!) Cos he told 'em. And just as she's taking this in, an announcer spots Keith, skulking in a corner. Keith says he's been "hiding from my band all week," and adds that they just broke up, which is news to Cristina and her husband. The MC gets them to come up on stage, and Cristina, with her estranged, sullen, silent males on either side, sings a quietly showstopping solo.Dammmm. As far as I can tell, she never made a record (later played a nightclub singer on the evening soap, Flamingo Road). And her song isn't listed (by Allmusic) on the soundtrack. But Mint Records put out a Tribute To The Nashville Soundtrack, with Neko and Kelly Hogan etc, and it's got all the songs from the movie, looks like. She did this once, anyway.

don, Monday, 27 March 2006 19:45 (eighteen years ago) link

i'm still trying to make up my mind on the new calexico. i feel like it has tangible melodies and i think its a little more sophisticated than their other output. while i think there's a couple of really snoozy cuts (plus, that really aweful french track), it's pretty and i'd like to drive to it. the whole i&w collab from last year may have dulled what might've been an otherwise sharper set, but 'garden ruin' is still likeable. i like "panic open string," "letter to bowie knife" and "all systems red" the best.

katie, a princess (katie, a princess), Monday, 27 March 2006 20:33 (eighteen years ago) link

Katie, I have heard so much great Brazilian jazz lately, you would FREAK OUT about it. I might start a new thread.

I have never heard a single note of Calexico. That is kind of weird.

Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 27 March 2006 20:38 (eighteen years ago) link

HAVE YOU EVER HEARD THE DESERT PLAINS? THEN YOU'VE HEARD CALEXICO.

just kidding. they're one of the bands that i like but wish they were just, overall, better.

i will lurk the sh*t outta your brazilian jazz thread. ;)

katie, a princess (katie, a princess), Monday, 27 March 2006 20:44 (eighteen years ago) link

my problem with the new calexico is that i *don't* hear the desert in it anymore (as i say upthread somewhere.) hmmmm...

>. kaci brown *instigator* 2005 $1.99 (who is she? she looks young. and i'm assuming she's country because that's where three copies of her CD were filed, and i think i heard of her before, possibly either in billboard or on one of these rolling country threads.)<

well, album definitely seems more like "r&b-leaning teenpop" (pretty ignorable so far, though that may change) than c&w. AMG's explanation:

>Kaci Brown grew up in Sulphur Springs, TX, and was singing at a very early age. Throughout her youth, she performed across her home state, appearing just about anyplace that would have her. To further her career, her family moved to Nashville in 2001 — remarkably, before attaining a record contract, she had a publishing deal and was writing for country artists. Though she intended to be a country artist, she was repeatedly told that she'd fare better with pop. By the end of 2005, she had summer touring dates with the Backstreet Boys, in addition to her Interscope-released debut album, under her belt. All of this happened before she passed her teenage years. A few of the things she adores, as noted on her website, include "love," "purple anything," "boys with guitars," and "boys in general."<

xhuxk, Monday, 27 March 2006 21:33 (eighteen years ago) link

Okay, so assuming anybody cares anymore about a record from last year that's already completed its chart cycle, I guess I overstated the love-ballad-heaviness of Toby's *Honky Tonk University* to a certain degree. "She Left Me" is actually kind of speedy two-step that turns into southern rock at the end, and "You Ain't Leavin' (Are Ya)" keeps (somewhat clumsily, I think) turning into swinging music during its chorus, and both of those are clearly halfway comical songs about being happy about being dumped; in fact (and this goes along with the perfunctoriness of much of the album), in both of them, Toby's girl leaves with his guitar. Though in the first one she leaves with his best friend Jake too and accidentally leaves her laptop behind so when she comes back to get it Toby'll be in a hottub full of hotties, and the latter she also takes his Lay-Z Boy recliner. The rest *is* mostly ballads, though. The Merle Haggard duet is fine (country needs more songs about going *off* the wagon these days, good); Toby sings the hell out of "Knock Yourself Out" in his old Billy Ray Cyrus-style "How Do Ya Like Me Now" gutbusting baritone (which he rarely uses anymore) and doesn't make me care about the song one way or the other; "Your Smile" is Toby in easy-as-a=Sunday-morning soul mode I guess (just a descrption; I'm not comparing it to Lionel), and I like that one a lot. A few others (including one where Toby gots it bad and another where we catch him at a bad time -- songwriting getting kinda redundant again!) go in one ear and out the other. "Honkytonk U" is the only track where he's much of a belicose asshole supporting the troops, and I still like it just fine, though why was I under the impression that he actually climbed *higher* than semi-pro football? (Maybe he just attending NFL training camp once or something like that?) "Big Blue Note" and "Just the Guy to Do It" both have that certain light Caribbean lilt that always serves Toby well; I like them both a lot, the latter more than the former, and I kind of gave the wrong impression above when I suggested it's about picking a fight with a knucklehead in a bar -- really, Toby's talking to some girl, and her boyfriend is flirting with some other girl at the other end of the bar, which makes that guy a knucklehead, but wait, how come the girl's not just as knuckleheaded for flirting with Toby? (Though maybe their flirting isn't mutual; you can't really tell. Real good song, either way. "Do blondes really have more fun or are they just easier to spot in the dark?," ha ha.) And "As Good As I Once Was" is the album's best song, and one of Toby's best hits ever.

xhuxk, Tuesday, 28 March 2006 13:20 (eighteen years ago) link

I think Jamey Johnson's "Flying Silver Eagle" is better than "The Dollar," from his debut record. I also like "Ray Ray's Jukejoint," and I like the way Buddy Cannon used gospel voices on the record, I wish he had done more of it. "The Dollar" has turned out to be a substantial hit, but I find it somewhat more simplistic than "Flying Silver Eagle," maybe because it's easier to jerk heartstrings with kids who don't get enough attention (the subject of "The Dollar") than with the adult, sordid tale of Jamey-everyman who loses his wife to a rich banker, in "Silver Eagle." but I think it's one of the best country records so far this year, in my book--I need to get the Dale Watson, though.

and it turns out Moody Scott, who we were discussing upthread, recorded in Nashville for Sound Stage 7 in the '60s, had some regional hits. there's a new comp of his SS7 stuff just out, called "Bustin Out of the Ghetto." now Moody lives in Las Vegas.
xps

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 13:39 (eighteen years ago) link

bearfoot hookers, self-procaimed "beer drinking gospel" (but really more blues and boogie etc) cdbaby band from georgia - these guys aren't doing it for me, though they do seem to have moments, more on their '05 *life at the bar* album than their less rocking '04 *sweet pickle grits*. "me and the devil blues" is boogiefied heavily enough, and "gettin' ready for the show" (by drinking, mostly) is a decent skynyrd rip, getting more of skynrd's rhythm than the drive by truckers usually do. but most of the slower songs are either drive by truckers without the songwriting or so-what low-energy bar band blues or so-whatter grateful-dead-fan snooze. "i feel fine" on *life at the bar* starts heavy but gets dull; "tequila love song", same album, at least ends with an obligatory tequila'd up sloppy singalong from the "EFH piss drunk choir." and the first album bored me way quicker than the second one did. i'd be interested to see if george or don hear anything I don't, though; here's where to check these guys out:

http://cdbaby.com/cd/bearfoothookers2

http://cdbaby.com/cd/bearfoothookers1

xhuxk, Tuesday, 28 March 2006 14:29 (eighteen years ago) link

Blimey I'd never heard of Aim Records until now, they seem to be putting out big chunks of SS7 / Seventy Seven material. Like, a double CD of Geater Davis!? I had no idea there was that much material, and I had kind of assumed that the Charly LP from '87 or whenever contained all of his SS7 stuff I would ever hear. To tell the truth I suspect I'd be more excited if someone would drag together a bunch of his best non-Richbourg recordings: I have one single on House of Orange which is great but a dreadful pressing, I bet there's lots more good stuff.

I'm getting a lot of mileage out of this Miko Marks CD, I keep being surprised by her voice, at moments when I'm not expecting to be surprised (I suppose that's a pre-requisite of being surprised, but still). Less so from Dierks Bentley, which I was expecting to like more than I do. The only bits I find myself responding to are the sappy bits, which I suppose isn't that unusual for me.

Tim (Tim), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 14:42 (eighteen years ago) link


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