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I broadly agree with these points, or at least see why they can look persuasive.
Tracer Hand is on the right track, I think, in talking about something like "male = neutral, female = something that stands out and needs specifying".
But it ought to be possible not just to accept that but to contest it and look more closely, eg: at what a male bodily experience is like (only if you want to!).
Given that most of us (male or female) spend large amounts of our time around women, it doesn't seem quite accurate to me to say that women's perspectives are obscured or unavailable. They are all around - but in a different sphere from the one Tracer cites as containing "the heroes of our world".
"the majority of the canon that any person seeking to be a writer is nudged towards is male" -- a majority, maybe, but fair to add that large amounts of the most revered literary canon are written by women. You might well be "nudged towards" Austen, the Brontes, George Eliot; Gaskell, Woolf, Mansfield and many more. The C19 ones especially I think are so foundational that most writers should, or might, read them.
― the pinefox, Friday, 11 March 2022 12:20 (two years ago) link
Given that most of us (male or female) spend large amounts of our time around women, it doesn't seem quite accurate to me to say that women's perspectives are obscured or unavailable.
That is not what is being said, it’s that those perspectives are not considered or understood as default. Please reread my initial post in this as I wrote a little about how this relates to everyday stuff that doesn’t occur unless pointed out to many men.
― mardheamac (gyac), Friday, 11 March 2022 12:37 (two years ago) link
i don't mean to sound above the kind of casual investigative approach that the pinefox and others are taking here, that kind of discussion is a welcome part of ilb, but i just want to point out that there is a large practice and field of research that has explored these kinds of questions at great length called feminism that can really enrich one's understanding around gender, sex, bodies, etc. judith butler, donna haraway, bell hooks, others i'm not familiar with.
― Nedlene Grendel as Basenji Holmo (map), Friday, 11 March 2022 13:20 (two years ago) link
anyway tracer brings up an important point about male subjectivity in that it tends to subsume and transfigure the male body. if a man is to be properly patriarchal he needs to erase or forget about his body in certain ways.
― Nedlene Grendel as Basenji Holmo (map), Friday, 11 March 2022 13:28 (two years ago) link