I mean, SotL kind of actively make fun of how boring their music is, otherwise a beautiful swelling track wouldn't be titled "Dungtitled (in A minor)" or "December Hunting for Vegetarian Fuckface." If you don't like ambient music, that's fine, but also I don't have much to say to you about anything.― we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Thursday, 10 March 2022 5:24 AM (yesterday)
― we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Thursday, 10 March 2022 5:24 AM (yesterday)
See? Controversial.
Yeah I don't really like ambient music. But it's such a useless term really. SAW II is one of my favourite albums ever. I own heaps of drone. But by and large, I'll leave ambient to the yoga studios.
― raven, Friday, 11 March 2022 07:20 (two years ago) link
sotl are funny bcuz we all went so hard for them on the noize board for some reason and they are yah just 2 long violin notes for 10 mins lol
― kurt schwitterz, Friday, 11 March 2022 07:39 (two years ago) link
Yeah so people are always like "OMG the sound of an orchestra tuning up, so romantic!" and I grew up playing in orchestras, and it's just a fucking orchestra tuning up.Maybe as a cellist SOTL are just too close to that for me.
Their first(?) album as I recall had a bit more grit to it. After that everything I've heard is pleasant at best.
― raven, Friday, 11 March 2022 08:02 (two years ago) link
I could see calling all ambient music boring, but I feel like even within the boringness of ambient, SotL's boringness stands out.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 11 March 2022 15:45 (two years ago) link
Watched Walk Hard last night, thanks for the recommendation. It walks the line (see what I did there?) between really dumb and really fun.
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Friday, 11 March 2022 17:09 (two years ago) link
I love SotL and think y'all are fools.
― we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Friday, 11 March 2022 17:14 (two years ago) link
Well that's not nice
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 11 March 2022 17:30 (two years ago) link
Oh well! I'll take "enjoys simple-minded emotionally manipulative ambient music" over "nice" any day.
― we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Saturday, 12 March 2022 13:26 (two years ago) link
Take extra care with strangersEven flowers have their dangersAnd though scary is excitingNice is different than "enjoys simple-minded emotionally manipulative ambient music"
― i read to 69 position (Neanderthal), Saturday, 12 March 2022 13:37 (two years ago) link
Lindsay Buckingham is (at best) the 4th best songwriter of Fleetwood Mac.
― move over GAPDY, now there's BIG THIEF! (PBKR), Saturday, 12 March 2022 13:50 (two years ago) link
SoTL is such an easy target, and their approach also does not represent the variety of different types of music classified as ambient.
― Evan, Saturday, 12 March 2022 14:07 (two years ago) link
― move over GAPDY, now there's BIG THIEF! (PBKR), S
yeah, this, lol. I realized years ago he's an excellent melodist who has occasionally brought his shit together enough to match his wizardly production gifts.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 12 March 2022 14:11 (two years ago) link
I don't know who PBKR would put in the third slot, but I'd say that Danny Kirwan vies with Nicks as the most consistent songwriter Fleetwood Mac ever had. Bob Welch on Mystery to Me and Buckingham on Tusk put more good songs on a single album than Kirwan and Nicks ever did, though.
― Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 12 March 2022 15:12 (two years ago) link
Consistent without mentioning Christine McVie?
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 12 March 2022 15:14 (two years ago) link
otm about Kirwan
Uh, Peter Green?
― Alfred Ndwego of Kenya (Tom D.), Saturday, 12 March 2022 15:18 (two years ago) link
Consistency is easy with fewer albums.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 12 March 2022 15:19 (two years ago) link
I find about half of her stuff from Future Games to Tango dull.
Never heard the albums pre-Then Play Long, some good singles obviously.
― Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 12 March 2022 15:23 (two years ago) link
Not to be pedantic, but dullness is a species of consistency.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 12 March 2022 15:28 (two years ago) link
OK, consistently good.
― Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 12 March 2022 15:33 (two years ago) link
the best talk talk album is the party’s over
― brimstead, Saturday, 12 March 2022 16:33 (two years ago) link
― Halfway there but for you, Saturday, March 12, 2022 10:12 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
There is a reason her name is Christine Perfect:
C. McVieNicksKirwan and/or WelchBuckingham, maybe
This is like a HOF discussion in baseball - are we talking peak achievements, counting stats, etc. I think McVie gets both, though peak achievement might be Kirwan's songs on Future Games and Bare Trees.
― move over GAPDY, now there's BIG THIEF! (PBKR), Saturday, 12 March 2022 18:08 (two years ago) link
And she's a helluva singer
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 12 March 2022 18:16 (two years ago) link
But I adore Stevie. She brought something quite new: this fusion of Joplin and Jim Morrison and witchery.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 12 March 2022 18:17 (two years ago) link
Greatest FM vocal performance: Mick Fleetwood as Mrs. Scarrott on "Thoughts on a Grey Day".
As for The Party's Over, it's really underrated and one of the best records in its genre.
― Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 12 March 2022 19:00 (two years ago) link
I have a couple!
The second Specials album is better than the first and the third one kicks major ass
I like later era post Silent is Sexu Neubautin better than the earlier stuff!
― kurt schwitterz, Tuesday, 15 March 2022 22:58 (two years ago) link
The best Nine Inch Nails albums, in order, are:
disc 1 of The FragileWith TeethYear ZeroPretty Hate MachineThe Downward Spiral
― castanuts (DJP), Thursday, 17 March 2022 17:19 (two years ago) link
Yeah, no problem with that
― imago, Thursday, 17 March 2022 17:20 (two years ago) link
my favorite is hesitation marks :)
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, 17 March 2022 17:22 (two years ago) link
With Teeth deserves high billing for the bookends alone
― imago, Thursday, 17 March 2022 17:23 (two years ago) link
Hesitation MarksThe Slipthe three recent EPs back to back to backWith Teeth (this one grew on me; I hated it for a while)The Downward SpiralThe FragileGhosts I-IVPretty Hate MachineYear Zero
― but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 17 March 2022 17:25 (two years ago) link
contra op the nin albums have aged terribly and hes become a supremely boring totally uninspired film composer
― kurt schwitterz, Thursday, 17 March 2022 17:35 (two years ago) link
The only NIN thing I liked was when he came out at the first Lollapalooza gig, threw a fit about the sound and stormed off without playing a note.
― Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Thursday, 17 March 2022 18:04 (two years ago) link
xpost Sorry I can't hear you over the sound of a lonesome piano in a vast room.
(I do like the guy and his work but...he does have his tropes.)
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 17 March 2022 18:14 (two years ago) link
The first part of this statement at least isn’t controversial at all, according to this thread:”The Specials" Vs. "More Specials"
This Marcello Carlin quote (from 2006) about sums it up:
Essentially what we're saying is that The Specials was their Dissensus album and More Specials their ILM album.
― celebrating ten years of constant posting (breastcrawl), Thursday, 17 March 2022 18:29 (two years ago) link
Sugar >> Hüsker Dü
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 March 2022 18:30 (two years ago) link
Bob Mould's first solo albums>>>>>>>Sugar
― Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Thursday, 17 March 2022 18:33 (two years ago) link
His film scores and ambient records are very much "music to study to" type of stuff, but once in a while I like putting one on while I vacuum
― we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Thursday, 17 March 2022 19:57 (two years ago) link
Workbook > Sugar > most Husker > rest of Bob solo
There are classics and duds in each of these phases but I am comfortable with that overall order
― imagine flagons (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 17 March 2022 21:45 (two years ago) link
There is something appealing about Pomplamoose.
― Eyeball Kicks, Thursday, 24 March 2022 23:06 (two years ago) link
Do tell.
― Mardi Gras Mambo Sun (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 24 March 2022 23:50 (two years ago) link
The Ant Rap is actually a punk song
― sarahell, Saturday, 9 April 2022 03:24 (two years ago) link
If by being punk you mean being obnoxious and subversive just because you can, then yes absolutely.
― Let's disco dance, Hammurabi! (Austin), Saturday, 9 April 2022 03:59 (two years ago) link
Maybe more silly than controversial BUT—
If there's such a thing as "dadrock" then surely there's also such a thing as "dadsoul."
― Let's disco dance, Hammurabi! (Austin), Thursday, 14 April 2022 14:33 (two years ago) link
Determining who qualifies is where the controversy arises.
― Let's disco dance, Hammurabi! (Austin), Thursday, 14 April 2022 14:34 (two years ago) link
I think you mean “unclesoul”:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69ptYXvUo7M
― middot • is • my • middle • name (breastcrawl), Thursday, 14 April 2022 14:46 (two years ago) link
Scat singing: never good, always entertaining.
― Let's disco dance, Hammurabi! (Austin), Wednesday, 27 April 2022 23:03 (two years ago) link
I think I first saw this on ilm:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nY7LHziBDcI
― brimstead, Wednesday, 27 April 2022 23:12 (two years ago) link
Two of my favorites!
― Eric B. Mash Up the Resident (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 27 April 2022 23:32 (two years ago) link
I normally resist the urge to post “canonical thing actually sucks” in this thread, but:While it’s always still great to hear the Ronettes etc., the least great thing about it these days is the Spector sound. That wall o’ sound is not really standing strong… in fact, the production can sound like muddy shit. Maybe it was made very specifically for transistor radio speakers, I dunno.
― Hops: Mosaic, Citra, Simcoe (morrisp), Friday, 6 May 2022 01:38 (one year ago) link