those are all previously released covers. i can't tell if that collection it's an actual bootleg or they're just trying to make it seem like one as a bit - i guess stores like juno mightn't be stocking it if it was actually unauthorised (?), but there's no mention of it from any official source. looks like it first got released last year, and the label it's on ("b-vis") doesn't seem to meaningfully exist and is alternatively described being from spain or poland.
― ufo, Friday, 11 March 2022 01:16 (two years ago) link
gotta be one of the best crowd reaction shots ever pic.twitter.com/rXguEzDMMd— Sam Fishell (@SamFishell) March 9, 2022
― bad luck banging, or Lorna Doone (sic), Saturday, 12 March 2022 06:00 (two years ago) link
stores like j***
Generally don't seem to be sticklers about that kind of thing, let's say.
― feed me with your clicks (Noel Emits), Saturday, 12 March 2022 11:18 (two years ago) link
Awful news, his second son Jethro has passed away. How much tragedy can someone endure.
https://www.nme.com/news/music/nick-caves-son-jethro-has-died-aged-31-3221399
― joni mitchell jarre (anagram), Monday, 9 May 2022 15:00 (one year ago) link
Oh no, that's horrendous. I have a family friend who lost both of their children at similar ages - one early in college, then years later the other at 30 due to COVID. More painful than what I can imagine.
― birdistheword, Monday, 9 May 2022 15:04 (one year ago) link
the article says he only learned that Cave was his father at age 8. Not sure how close they were.
― Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Monday, 9 May 2022 16:54 (one year ago) link
(he was, iirc, born a few days after Cave’s first son.)
― Yul Brynner film festival on Channel 48... (sic), Monday, 9 May 2022 17:08 (one year ago) link
From the Pitchfork article, sounds like they had grown closer after that:
Lazenby was born in Melbourne, Australia, in 1991, but said that he did not meet his father until he was about 7 or 8. Cave said in 2008, “To my eternal regret, I didn’t make much contact with Jethro in the early years, but I now have a great relationship with him.”
How incredibly sad.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 9 May 2022 17:14 (one year ago) link
Never followed him much, but this one got me, and seems appropriate today:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wc7mDChiiNU
― dow, Monday, 9 May 2022 17:59 (one year ago) link
ugh god that is awful
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 9 May 2022 18:07 (one year ago) link
i don't think that's his second son, it was his first son; the twin of the one who passed away is still alive.
― akm, Monday, 9 May 2022 22:57 (one year ago) link
his oldest son Luke is still alive ie “first” sonjethro secondthen the twins
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 10 May 2022 00:23 (one year ago) link
Sounds like Jethro and Luke are virtually the same age, both born in April/May 1991. Reports today suggest Jethro was older by 10 days.
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Tuesday, 10 May 2022 00:41 (one year ago) link
“White Elephant” with the full live Seeds lineup is incredible and a great set closer.
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Saturday, 6 August 2022 12:55 (one year ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aADVH5lqeFU^^sound not great but yes, I can imagine being there would be kinda wild
― corrs unplugged, Monday, 8 August 2022 10:25 (one year ago) link
i bought a ticket to see cave & ellis this year. they're not bringing the full bad seeds to australia for whatever reason this year but it looks like their previous carnage tour dates without the rest of the bad seeds were pretty heavy on ghosteen material so i'm looking forward to that
― ufo, Monday, 8 August 2022 10:42 (one year ago) link
quite a lot of his material works better live, for me
― corrs unplugged, Monday, 8 August 2022 11:12 (one year ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHb6bi3haQU
Recent concert at Hanging Rock
― meat and two vdgg (emsworth), Tuesday, 10 January 2023 23:58 (one year ago) link
Didn't know Colin Greenwood was playing bass on this tour!
the guy is easily one of the greatest live performers I've ever seen.
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Wednesday, 11 January 2023 00:05 (one year ago) link
it was just on the most recent australian leg, they also had larry mullins on percussion (who's been touring with the bad seeds since 2015) and a trio of backing vocalists. on the previous na/europe legs they had different backing bands
i saw them last month and it was a decent show, they played nearly all of carnage & ghosteen and not too much else, though they did play "breathless" which was lovely to hear. certainly not any sort of greatest hits show, leaving out most of the bad seeds staples. it was quite long (two & a half hours) and most of the material was quite slow, there'd just be the occasional burst of intensity here and there so it was a bit odd in that regard. ellis was ridiculously dramatic playing his little keyboard on his lap.
― ufo, Wednesday, 11 January 2023 00:10 (one year ago) link
lol that video pretty much only includes the more energetic material they played
― ufo, Wednesday, 11 January 2023 00:13 (one year ago) link
A good read:
https://www.newyorker.com/culture/the-new-yorker-interview/nick-cave-on-the-fragility-of-life
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 March 2023 05:34 (one year ago) link
I had some thoughts about that New Yorker piece. (For the record, in the first 15 minutes after posting this newsletter, a half dozen people have unsubscribed.)
― but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 29 March 2023 15:24 (eleven months ago) link
Nick Cave rules
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Wednesday, 29 March 2023 15:44 (eleven months ago) link
what rules are these?
― calzino, Wednesday, 29 March 2023 16:01 (eleven months ago) link
No smiles, no suntans
― chr1sb3singer, Wednesday, 29 March 2023 16:03 (eleven months ago) link
When Morrissey's talking, you show some goddamn respect and listen politely!
― but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 29 March 2023 16:04 (eleven months ago) link
there is something wrong with you
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Wednesday, 29 March 2023 16:07 (eleven months ago) link
according to gossip, Nick Cave has good reason to be a bit nervous about cancel culture
― calzino, Wednesday, 29 March 2023 16:11 (eleven months ago) link
life is too short to write long essays about why life is too short to read any more interviews with Nick Cave talking about the fragility of life.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 29 March 2023 16:12 (eleven months ago) link
otm times a thousand!!!
― calzino, Wednesday, 29 March 2023 16:12 (eleven months ago) link
but how else can one show one's bravery these days?
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Wednesday, 29 March 2023 16:17 (eleven months ago) link
boy, unperson, I've enjoyed your jazz coverage for a long time, but the bit about Cave's and Petrusich's grief is just really gross -- I can tell you're already in "well that's my opinion!"-land about it, so no point telling you, but it's a really shitty opinion you should consider maybe changing to a better one.
― J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Wednesday, 29 March 2023 16:26 (eleven months ago) link
Cave can be insufferable, overly pious and out of touch, but as you state yourself -
Now, this is certainly justified in a way; two of his children (he has — had — four, with three different women) have died
in a way - come on! can you even begin to imagine what this must have been like? a lifetime is not long enough to deal with and process this. your piece feels like you are a human devoid of any empathy at all, which from reading other stuff you have written I know is not true. This piece feels like a BIG misstep.
― stirmonster, Wednesday, 29 March 2023 16:34 (eleven months ago) link
Yeah, maybe not the best example to choose for doubling down on a "journalists shouldn't turn pieces into personal essays" stance.
(which at this point is its own subgenre anyway, even if you don't like it or don't want to read/write that kind of piece)
― change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 29 March 2023 16:35 (eleven months ago) link
some of caves words on grief have been helpful to me personally but I guess I’m just a rube because he’s obviously an idiot being coddled (???) by journalists and he’s not even as good as the cramps (???)
― brimstead, Wednesday, 29 March 2023 17:22 (eleven months ago) link
why are we even engaging with this
― Paul Ponzi, Wednesday, 29 March 2023 18:28 (eleven months ago) link
I’ve lost interest in his music (too wordy, too laboured) about 20 years ago but I never fail to read any his the Red Hand Files dispatches (where he shows an empathetic sincerity that I never would have expected from the guy). So yeah I’m probably more interested in hearing him share lessons from his grief with someone hurting, than in a more typical promo Q&A
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 29 March 2023 21:09 (eleven months ago) link
I’m also greatly weary of the Cave-as-sage thing (many of his responses sound like someone listening to the sound of his own voice and marvelling) but I guess he’s not responsible for the rapturous reception. I’d never argue with his right to explore his grief however he needs to, nor that of others, and since I don’t want to read it I just avoid it. (!! autocorrect turned “explore” into “exploit” before I caught it)
― assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 29 March 2023 21:50 (eleven months ago) link
after i was an asshole online, colleagues kept mysteriously calling me out for being an asshole online
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 29 March 2023 22:32 (eleven months ago) link
i like cave's music but his schtick is pretty annoying removed from it (& not to say that there are no problems with it in the context of his music either)
― ufo, Wednesday, 29 March 2023 23:01 (eleven months ago) link
Find me some 59 year old white guys who aren’t annoying
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Wednesday, 29 March 2023 23:40 (eleven months ago) link
(he's 65 btw)
― assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 29 March 2023 23:47 (eleven months ago) link
sometimes i almost forget, so it's useful to be reminded what an incredible piece of shit unperson is
― mookieproof, Thursday, 30 March 2023 06:52 (eleven months ago) link
great interview, thanks for sharing Ned!
It is genuinely difficult to sit down, with all your human limitations, and write a song. I am writing the lyrics to a new record at the moment, so all this is extremely raw, and I may be a little sensitive about these matters, to say the least! [Laughs.] But, as the months drag on, you slowly draw the small threads of ideas together that hopefully, eventually, make up a group of songs that become an album. Once you’ve got that done, things start to reveal themselves and make sense, and you go into the studio with your band members, and you start recording the music, and it’s like collecting treasure. By the time you get these songs onto the stage, they have grown immensely in emotional stature. It can be a truly transcendent experience. So it’s a beautiful, upward journey, to write songs and present them onstage. These small, wretched, little lines that you’ve clawed out of yourself are suddenly amplified onstage, by the brilliance of the musicians who play them, to the absolute delight of your audience. It’s an extraordinary feeling, really, the trajectory of a small, inconsequential idea to something of true importance.
nick cave rules
― corrs unplugged, Thursday, 30 March 2023 07:05 (eleven months ago) link
What happened to Petrusich's husband? There have been several NY-based critics about her generation (or maybe it's the previous generation) who have had a spouse die at a young age - Matt Zoller Seltz, Rob Sheffield, etc. Maybe statistically it's not a lot, but it's awful and sad how it's not a rarer occurrence. They've all been pretty open about it in their writing.
― birdistheword, Thursday, 30 March 2023 20:42 (eleven months ago) link
Seitz not Seltz
― birdistheword, Thursday, 30 March 2023 20:43 (eleven months ago) link
xpost It looks like some antivaxers latched onto his death
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Thursday, 30 March 2023 20:49 (eleven months ago) link
xpost - not sure exactly what happened, iirc it was reported as a sudden death after a seizure at home
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 30 March 2023 20:54 (eleven months ago) link