U.S. Postal Service: salvageable or doomed?

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Thanks for the advice. The delivery address was a large apartment building with a manned package room (the package room has never f’ed up or lost anything before, they even have their own scan setup) and we checked the lookalike apartment building next door but no dice there.

Johnny Mathis der Maler (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 9 March 2022 17:00 (two years ago) link

UPS and FedEx do handoffs to USPS to complete the delivery, but it's usually clearly indicated as such. UPS calls it "UPS Mail Innovations" and instead of saying "delivered", it'll usually say something like "Tendered to Delivery Provider", and the USPS tracking number will be provided to track the final delivery.

I'm not sure how it works with FedEx. It became en vogue when Amazon was tired of paying hefty two day delivery prices for UPS and realized this option was cheaper and only slightly slower

i read to 69 position (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 9 March 2022 17:19 (two years ago) link

four weeks pass...

DeJoy's plan to replace USPS fleet vehicles would see 160,000 trucks emit as much CO2 as 4,300,000 passenger vehicles.

Over the past week, environmentalists and California’s top air quality regulator have called on the EPA to block the Postal Service from moving forward with what they described as a poorly thought-out purchase that would harm communities across the country. They asked the EPA to refer the dispute to the White House Council on Environmental Quality, which mediates disagreements between federal agencies over actions affecting the environment and public health.

EPA officials declined to invoke this rarely used power. Instead, senior administration officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal deliberations, said they decided to send the warning letters to the Postal Service to give its leadership a chance to voluntarily change course.

They acknowledged that DeJoy might reject their requests, as he has rebuffed previous calls for the agency to rethink its plans.

beepy fridges (sic), Wednesday, 6 April 2022 21:13 (two years ago) link

this fuckin guy

thinkmanship (sleeve), Wednesday, 6 April 2022 21:14 (two years ago) link

three months pass...

I’m assuming it’s down to low staffing levels and covid knocking employees out, but our mail delivery has literally been once a week for the last month. It all comes on Thursday or Saturday for the entire week, sometimes dumped all over our stoop because it can’t all fit in the mailbox. I get notifications for stuff out for delivery that day that doesn’t show up for another three or four days. From the tracking I do check, it’s getting to our local office in good time, just seems to be sitting on our route’s truck for almost a week.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 2 August 2022 01:18 (one year ago) link

USPS Plans To Shed 50,000 Jobs To Reach 'Break Even' Point

DeJoy also explained how he has plans to streamline the company by closing 150 annex plants over the next four years, to be replaced by a smaller number of more efficient mega-centers.

Vance Vance Devolution (sic), Tuesday, 2 August 2022 01:38 (one year ago) link

til it’s just one robot delivering everyone’s mail to trash island

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 2 August 2022 04:03 (one year ago) link

Why hasn't Biden gotten board members appointed who can fire DeJoy

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 2 August 2022 04:54 (one year ago) link

there will always be at least a few spots where democrats and republicans can agree: eg, giving more money to more cops, selling weapons to countries that did 9/11, and making the usps so shitty that the only recourse is privatization

no one wants to twerk anymore (will), Tuesday, 2 August 2022 12:08 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

They didn't do much to publicize it, but the USPS is in a lot better shape today than it was on Monday:

President Joe Biden on Wednesday signed a new law that will overhaul the US Postal Service’s finances and allow the agency to modernize its service.

The Postal Service Reform Act, which enjoyed a rare wave of bipartisan support in the House and Senate, bolsters an agency that is “as essential as it ever was,” the President said before signing the legislation.

“Today, we enshrine in law our recognition that the Postal Service is fundamental,” Biden said.

...

The Postal Service Reform Act will require retired postal employees to enroll in Medicare when eligible, while dropping a previous mandate that forced the agency to cover its health care costs years in advance.

Those two measures would save the USPS nearly $50 billion over the next decade, according to the House Oversight Committee.

The legislation will also require the USPS to create an online dashboard with local and national delivery time data.

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 18 August 2022 12:05 (one year ago) link

Long overdue and very necessary. In combination with the IRS upgrade it’s good to see.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 18 August 2022 12:49 (one year ago) link

very good news

thinkmanship (sleeve), Thursday, 18 August 2022 15:13 (one year ago) link

Service has been much improved around where I am, fwiw. I'm convinced it was a local management issue, which was exacerbating already disruptive national trends.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 18 August 2022 15:38 (one year ago) link

I just picked up a CD from Austria at my PO box this morning. The bill-of-lading pouch had 10 sheets of paper inside — various customs forms and whatnot, with my name and address on each one. Say what you will about the USPS: when I want to send a CD to Austria, or anyplace else on earth, I stick 1 label on the outside of the package, and off it goes. And it gets there.

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 18 August 2022 15:53 (one year ago) link

And Media Mail! God bless Media Mail, so much cheaper

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 18 August 2022 16:24 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

Does anyone remember vending machines in the lobby, or did I just dream that? You could buy stamps (rolls & books), prepaid envelopes, etc...?

They've really done everything possible to reduce convenience for customers, but I'm sure there are more service reductions in the works

Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 3 October 2022 22:01 (one year ago) link

I bought stamps from a vending machine in my local USPS lobby this past summer.

eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Tuesday, 4 October 2022 01:09 (one year ago) link

The one I go to has a kiosk with a scale where you can buy labels/postage for larger packages or books of stamps.

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 4 October 2022 01:13 (one year ago) link

And it gets there.

The shift carrier from your local USPS office diligently sneaking into Austria with your CD sewn inside their jacket, nimbly dodging dozens of Österreichische Post AG operators bent on arresting its progress.

Vance Vance Devolution (sic), Tuesday, 4 October 2022 04:36 (one year ago) link

I order from Klanggalerie on Austria all the time and I’ve never seen anything on package more than the usual green customs sticker.

sweating like Cathy *aaaack* (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 4 October 2022 13:39 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DK_yvwsp3QA

Andy the Grasshopper, Sunday, 16 October 2022 17:14 (one year ago) link

Latest Update

We were unable to deliver your package at 11:34 pm on October 15, 2022 in OAKLAND, CA 94606 because the business was closed.

Yeah, I actually went to bed around 11pm, sorry I wasn't available to get my mail, I'll try harder next time to stay awake

Andy the Grasshopper, Sunday, 16 October 2022 17:34 (one year ago) link

I dunno, I kinda liked "The District Sleeps Alone Tonight"

the floor is guava (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 16 October 2022 17:37 (one year ago) link

xps i used to buy stamps regularly using those vending machines until they seemed to all disappear some 10-15 years ago. never seen one since.

Kim Kimberly, Sunday, 16 October 2022 19:27 (one year ago) link

four weeks pass...

So

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 15 November 2022 18:46 (one year ago) link

Post offices now close for lunch, so plan accordingly

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 15 November 2022 18:46 (one year ago) link

yeah, I found that out recently.. and a european LONG lunch at that, possibly even a siesta in a big cart of mail

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 18:50 (one year ago) link

does that mean they are literally having one person staff the post office?

Nhex, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 18:58 (one year ago) link

Yeah, I'm not sure if they close for lunch everyday, or just when there's literally only one person in the station - pretty annoying though

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 19:26 (one year ago) link

My local post office closes for lunch - yep only one employee.

brownie, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 20:33 (one year ago) link

So my brother is proposing to his girlfriend. And the engagement ring is coming today, requires a signature, and he's working. He asks if I can go to his house and sign for it and leave.

Said ok, but was anxious because the mail service where he lives is notoriously bad. They once applied a mail forwarding request I made for my father at my address and my mail started going to their place.

Sure enough, something goes wrong. My bro msgs me to say the package shows delivered, did I get it? No, nobody's been to the door, nothing outside. Shows as signed for by my bro's initials.

My guess is to avoid being dinged for a late delivery, the mailperson marked it delivered, fabricated the signature, then figured they'd go to your house, hope you were there, and if not, leave a note on the door. Because of the ridiculous workload mailpersons have, they do this all the time (they did it to me at my old place even before DeJoy).

The other theory is they put it in the mailbox and fraudulently marked it as signed for. But since it's an engagement ring, my brother is freaking out like a 12 year old.

I went outside to see if I could see the mail truck. There it was, at the front of the community, and moving towards his place, so I figure ok, they'll be by shortly.

Here's where I got completely stupid. I didn't want to approach the mail person as I don't live in that community and it's gonna sound strange, me asking them for a package for someone else. But I also didn't want to assume they would come by the house and have them leave, as my brother didn't leave his mail key to check the box.

So I got in the car and drove to the street the truck was on and after I saw it was clear that they were still delivering on the route towards my brother, I parked and walked back to his house. Sure enough, they pulled up and stopped outside his house so I stayed outside so I could sign for it. But then the driver left.

Now my brother is begging me to flag them down and I'm asking if he's sure there's no mail key in the house and no, there's not. I told him they were driving away and I didn't want to tail the driver as that would creep them out.

But then I figured they would stop to deliver another package and I could get out and politely ask them about the package. So I found them, and they were going the opposite direction. Dammit. So I waited 30 seconds, turned around and went back to see if I could catch them. Now they're again going the opposite way.

So now I've figured out that I obviously freaked them out and they're trying to get away from me. Exactly what I wanted to avoid. Brother is hounding me about it and I'm like DUDE I'M GONNA GO TO JAIL IN A MINUTE.

So I went to the mailroom at the front of the community to pause and figure out what to do next, like going to his work to get his mail key.

Mail person is parked there as I arrive, right across from me. Fuck. She is staring right at me, intently. She starts taking pics of my car and is clearly talking to someone. FUCK.

Alright so I've completely made a mess of this and terrified the poor woman. I don't blame her at all. It's why I hadn't wanted to do it.

So I decided to get out of the car slowly and talk to her from a distance rather than approach the truck. After all, I'm 6'0, 225 pounds, heavily tattooed, and unkempt and looking agitated due to the situation. She gestures at me with a shrug, basically saying "what the FUCK do you want?". Which is fair.

So finally I explain the situation and she is relieved when I explain I just have a question about a package. She offers to help, and then retrieves the package. Sure enough, another mail carrier (I guess they have two because it's a big community) delivered the package to the box and fabricated the signature to make it look like a door delivery. Thanked her, apologized, and went on my way.

So yeah, i completely fucked this up, and unintentionally terrified a mail person today. Shoulda just told my brother to stfu, grabbed his mail key, and checked the box.

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Saturday, 26 November 2022 20:20 (one year ago) link

this story has big george costanza energy

Tracer Hand, Saturday, 26 November 2022 22:03 (one year ago) link

Lol

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Saturday, 26 November 2022 22:05 (one year ago) link

Damn.

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 26 November 2022 22:15 (one year ago) link

Spent a good chunk of postage to make sure an overseas package got shipped and delivered on time. Got a notice a few days back with a "return to sender" notice on tracking with no explanation. Just got the returned package in the mail. Reason for return - no customs form declaration. Clearly attached to the package - a customs form declaration!!

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Saturday, 26 November 2022 22:21 (one year ago) link

three months pass...

This is as much if not more another sign of the general unraveling of society, but reportedly there have been a number of armed robberies of mail deliverers here in the last couple of weeks. Gunmen just run up in broad daylight and demand packaged and master keys. That's fucked up.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 23 March 2023 13:07 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

when you're gonna misdeliver one of my packages, absolutely make sure it's my pills.

the manwich horror (Neanderthal), Thursday, 18 May 2023 23:10 (eleven months ago) link

seven months pass...

some days i feel like a single-issue voter, and that biden doesn't deserve my vote for not immediately ousting this piece of shit crony dejoy on day one.

budo jeru, Friday, 5 January 2024 17:06 (three months ago) link

he doesn't have the power to do so unfortunately

Disco Biollante (Neanderthal), Friday, 5 January 2024 17:53 (three months ago) link

Talking to my neighborhood postal worker (who both lives here and delivers here, which seems like a great setup), it sound like there's a rash of attacks on postal workers where the attackers steal their building/group mailbox keys and then steal packages. Sounds like a very unpleasant time to be a postal worker.

fajita seas, Friday, 5 January 2024 23:43 (three months ago) link

Yeah, I've heard that in Oakland a bunch.. I caught a dude red-handed trying to break into my apartment's mailboxes, and he had a ring of keys instead of a screwdriver

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 5 January 2024 23:47 (three months ago) link

I feel like there's been a crazy spike in postal crimes in general. Check fraud has definitely gone up, and it's tied to mail theft. It's gotten so bad, I never mail anything unless I'm doing it INSIDE the post office into a kiosk or slot that's either constantly watched (i.e. within their tellers' view) or going into the area they're stationed at where they can see the mail being dropped in. Last year, some guy came into my local post office to tell them someone was trying to steal mail from their outside boxes using some kind of sticky thingie (and fled before he could be caught), and they told him "we're very aware of him." Not in a blaisé way, it was kind of implied they were doing something about it (what, I don't know).

birdistheword, Saturday, 6 January 2024 01:21 (three months ago) link

U.S. Postal Service: salvageable or doomed?

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 6 January 2024 02:10 (three months ago) link

I can't say I'm a fan, but his tenure has had some welcome surprises.

― birdistheword, Friday, January 5, 2024 12:30 PM (two days ago) bookmarkflaglink

counterpoint: go fuck yourself

budo jeru, Sunday, 7 January 2024 21:01 (three months ago) link

There are definitely some good things about the USPS recently. Their newly introduced Ground Advantage rate is cheaper and seemingly quicker for sending packages domestically. When I have to ship CDs, I'm paying about a dollar less per package than I used to and things are arriving in the same amount of time.

Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Sunday, 7 January 2024 21:31 (three months ago) link

xp I'm not a fan of DeJoy's austerity plan - it's going to needlessly slash jobs and delay service - but he was also instrumental in getting the Postal Service Reform Act passed into law. That codified six-day delivery into law and ended the disastrous federal mandate that the USPS pre-pay the health plans for retirees, neither of which is a small thing. So right back at you.

birdistheword, Sunday, 7 January 2024 22:27 (three months ago) link

I feel like there's been a crazy spike in postal crimes in general.

A lot of mail boxes have vanished here, like months ago. I think it's because crooks figured out a way to wash signatures off of checks, so they were stealing from the boxes in search of those (and who knows what else). Supposedly more secure replacements are on their way, eventually.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 7 January 2024 22:33 (three months ago) link

I actually talked with a carrier about this - there have been cases where they found boxes sawed or cut-through. So in addition to upgrading locks (like maybe a double-validation system), they're hoping to make the physical mailbox tougher to slice or puncture. It's really crazy how it's come to this.

birdistheword, Sunday, 7 January 2024 23:13 (three months ago) link


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