Star Trek: Picard

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narrator's voice: it was the exact same number of frontiers

mark s, Tuesday, 8 March 2022 19:59 (one year ago) link

ok I pretty much guessed the big loop of this season from episode one

hope they throw in some twists and turns!

also, lol at hardman Picard

mh, Thursday, 10 March 2022 18:14 (one year ago) link

Definitely fun to see his grim side, as it were. (Finally got around to seeing the first episode yesterday and the new one just now.)

Kinda fun casting decision -- the Magistrate there in the new episode, who exactly the actor was was bugging me the entire time. Then I saw the end credits -- Jon Jon Briones! (Who is indeed Isa's dad, and who I last saw in the Assassination of Gianni Versace series.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 10 March 2022 22:28 (one year ago) link

Fun episode BUT this is really a mirror universe story, not a Back to the Future part II story. They are having it both ways with nature/nurture -- it is in the characters' genes that they become great people, but their morals are dictated by the reality they live in. This isn't a problem in Mirror Universe stories because they are in a bizarro universe, where some things are backwards and you shouldn't think about it too hard.

adam t. (abanana), Thursday, 10 March 2022 23:12 (one year ago) link

pleased to note that ART is featuring strongly in every ep so far :D

mark s, Friday, 11 March 2022 18:30 (one year ago) link

every ep is going to have a terrible painting and a worse picard speech riffing off the same stupid original

mark s, Friday, 11 March 2022 18:55 (one year ago) link

feel like these confederation dudes are kinda dumb

mark s, Friday, 11 March 2022 20:21 (one year ago) link

That's what I kinda like about them -- they're both laughable AND terrifying, which, how you say, has a certain contemporary resonance.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 11 March 2022 20:24 (one year ago) link

loved when the viewscreen said FLEET DEPLOYED

mookieproof, Saturday, 12 March 2022 03:24 (one year ago) link

Frankly I'm glad that it isn't another Mirror Universe story (though it kind of is in all but name) as I feel that it's been played to death in the Trek universe. That said I'm kind of into this so far, as some of the dialogue (if not the speech writing) has been sharper as far as defining the characters and Agnes is bringing the lols.

Vladimir Poutine (Leee), Saturday, 12 March 2022 23:52 (one year ago) link

I'm also imagining a new, final frontier where the role of the Queen is played by multiple actors, kind of like the Doctor but with more prosthetics.

Vladimir Poutine (Leee), Saturday, 12 March 2022 23:57 (one year ago) link

this is goofy af, but i'd watch seven and rios and laris do anything

and picard and q, especially if they're doing eeeeevil

agnes is okay; raffi and (especially) elnor seem pointless to me

mookieproof, Sunday, 13 March 2022 00:05 (one year ago) link

elnor is the worst

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 13 March 2022 00:11 (one year ago) link

raffi sucks. i die inside every time she calls picard “JL”

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 13 March 2022 00:12 (one year ago) link

there are lots of arguments to be had about what is and what isn't 'star trek' but i'm pretty sure having happy-go-lucky elnor slit peoples' throats is the latter

mookieproof, Sunday, 13 March 2022 00:14 (one year ago) link

its his version of skateboarding down an elephant

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 13 March 2022 00:30 (one year ago) link

Hahahah

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 13 March 2022 01:52 (one year ago) link

I gotta say I was thinking the other day how if you had gone back 35 years to the filming of the TNG debut episode and told Patrick Stewart and John DeLancie they'll be continuing to interpret these characters in, well, 35 years, I would have enjoyed their reactions.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 13 March 2022 01:54 (one year ago) link

delancie would have been 'cool!' and stewart might have killed himself

mookieproof, Sunday, 13 March 2022 02:59 (one year ago) link

lmao

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 13 March 2022 03:00 (one year ago) link

raffi sucks. i die inside every time she calls picard “JL”

I keep checking in with this thread to see if I should start watching the second season, and it is exactly stuff like this that makes me glad I decided not to bother.

Patrick Freyne's review is good and funny (as usual).

trishyb, Sunday, 13 March 2022 14:05 (one year ago) link

New season is fun so far so I'd say you're missing out.

groovypanda, Monday, 14 March 2022 07:50 (one year ago) link

Disgusting Siskobaiting in the last ep.

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 14 March 2022 09:27 (one year ago) link

interesting connection, there
The crew on this show is headed back to Los Angeles, 2024. That year sounded familiar so I double-checked. The Gabriel Bell riots that DS9 time travelled to? San Francisco, 2024

mh, Monday, 14 March 2022 12:58 (one year ago) link

Yeah that had been discussed a bit in the runup elsewhere -- actual continuity, who knew!

Ned Raggett, Monday, 14 March 2022 14:20 (one year ago) link

So you're saying we're gonna get hologram Dick Miller.

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 14 March 2022 14:20 (one year ago) link

I did wonder if the date was relevant to an older ep or one of the movies!

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 14 March 2022 22:17 (one year ago) link

So is this (or Q's doing of this) implying this world is the end result of the riots not having been "fixed" by Sisko?

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 14 March 2022 22:19 (one year ago) link

Actually as an aside. I dont think I understood what Q was getting at when he was basically menacingly saying "you need to do penance. YOU KNOW WHY." is this notyet established or am I missing something cos I dont know what hes referring to, aside from the overall "trial" which ... ffs come on.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 14 March 2022 22:20 (one year ago) link

The big drop that keeps getting foreshadowed is that Picard has some sin or misfortune in his past that’s not been addressed. Guinan kind of prods him and implies it might be about personal relationships, Raffi rightfully gives him shit for the holes in his personal outlook, he has that weird flashback with his mom (?)… who knows! They’re leading to something

I do like the implication that the world going to shit in 2024 isn’t inevitable for… reasons.

mh, Monday, 14 March 2022 22:41 (one year ago) link

My early prediction Picards mom is the borg queen there I said it.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 14 March 2022 22:42 (one year ago) link

I think that the reference to the Bell Riots is a red herring, since they're supposed to be headed to LA and not SF, or maybe it's a double reverse red herring in that they deliberately ID'ed LA instead to throw us off the scent, but as for "YOU KNOW WHY," I think it's meant to be a mystery to viewers (if not *ahem* JL himself).

Vladimir Poutine (Leee), Monday, 14 March 2022 22:45 (one year ago) link

xp that was one of my three guesses, but I think
Picard is going to come clean about his past/mom to the crew, and one of them (maybe the tall female one?!) is it, and that is why the line from the nightmare/flashback happens

mh, Monday, 14 March 2022 22:47 (one year ago) link

agreed with Leee on the location thing

I think 2024 is just a hinge point

also the next US election year

insert deep, weary sigh here

mh, Monday, 14 March 2022 22:48 (one year ago) link

Picard is going to come clean about his past/mom

"I'm not actually French."

Justice League: Picard (Leee), Monday, 14 March 2022 23:02 (one year ago) link

shocking!

it’d be really funny if the reason for the weird clothes was his mom was a weird munchausens-by-proxy but for cosplaying 1800s france

mh, Monday, 14 March 2022 23:18 (one year ago) link

kinda wonder if they're gonna ignore jean-luc having a brother?

anyway i have to agree with trishy b's link -- none of this requires there to be a hole in picard's life. he's gotten with lots of ladies and if he can't muster it up for orla brady then dm me her number. let's go do some sci-fi shit

mookieproof, Monday, 14 March 2022 23:40 (one year ago) link

lol

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 15 March 2022 00:10 (one year ago) link

If they at least allude to the Bev/Picard ship (even to explain why it never happened either on TNG or between TNG and Picard), I as a longtime shipper would forgive the show many of its current and future trespasses.

Justice League: Picard (Leee), Tuesday, 15 March 2022 00:12 (one year ago) link

mookie!

my man

mh, Tuesday, 15 March 2022 00:45 (one year ago) link

I as a longtime shipper would forgive the show many of its current and future trespasses.

You mean they might finally admit that he's Wesley's real dad? And Wesley would come back from Travellerland, or wherever he ended up? That would be cool.

trishyb, Tuesday, 15 March 2022 01:23 (one year ago) link

recently learned that you used to be a poster i really liked a lot but goddamnit if you summon wesley i will fp you straight to hell

mookieproof, Tuesday, 15 March 2022 01:35 (one year ago) link

(j/k)

mookieproof, Tuesday, 15 March 2022 01:35 (one year ago) link

It's inevitable. I can feel it.

trishyb, Tuesday, 15 March 2022 01:41 (one year ago) link

as long as they don’t bring back that gross archaeologist chick from Risa i dont care who he bones as long as he bones ~someone~ ffs

i vote for orla or bev

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 15 March 2022 04:28 (one year ago) link

Just watched the TNG episode where he goes to his brother's vineyard and 1800s france was very much a thing there too

groovypanda, Tuesday, 15 March 2022 08:50 (one year ago) link

evidently the bad picard (grrrr scowls) and the good picard (smiles ineffectually, unsure what's going on) are going to sidney-carton the french revolution in two different directions

mark s, Tuesday, 15 March 2022 09:14 (one year ago) link

You mean they might finally admit that he's Wesley's real dad? And Wesley would come back from Travellerland, or wherever he ended up? That would be cool.

Nooooooo! I never went in for THAT particular theory, and my interest in Bev/Picard was strictly within the timeline of TNG (I have a great fondness for "Attached").

Justice League: Picard (Leee), Tuesday, 15 March 2022 16:52 (one year ago) link

I’m burning this motherfucker down if Wesley shows up

mh, Tuesday, 15 March 2022 17:26 (one year ago) link

I dunno, I always liked that tease of the Traveller story that never really got follow up, I recall I thought it might come up at one point in Disco and never did.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 15 March 2022 21:35 (one year ago) link


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