luxury trucks, suvs, crossovers and the death of the sedan

The CX-5 is surprisingly elegant looking. RAV-4 looks childish. Subarus are orky but in an 80s volvo station wagon sort of way that doesn't bother me.

*dorky

those were so cool in the early 00s.

― jammin on the dud (Spottie), Tuesday, March 8, 2022 2:04 PM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

the new ones are good!

lol weve reached the recommending trucks phase of the anti truck thread

the only truck that looks in anyway appealing 2 me is the ford maverick that gets 40 MPG, it looks like a normal sized truck for ppl who actually do things with a truck

trucks r good the thread is built on a shaky foundation

the f-150 lightning seems good. my bro in law is going to get one

ive never driven one of these Big Cars before but ill probably have to get one in the next couple years. intimidating prospect

thread with shakey foundation would have title 'RIP Trucks'

the only truck that looks in anyway appealing 2 me is the ford maverick that gets 40 MPG, it looks like a normal sized truck for ppl who actually do things with a truck

― class project pat (m bison), Tuesday, March 8, 2022 2:12 PM (nine seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

its cool that ford came out with a small hybrid pickup but its really not a truck, no real 4wd, built on same unibody platform as the escape, its a "light truck" aka a crossover, same as hondas pickup

only truck i'd buy is the saturn s-series

subaru brat

On those extraordinarily rare occasions when I need a truck or SUV I rent one. (Privilege alert: there are like three Enterprise locations literally within walking distance from me, plus two U-Hauls and an Alamo.)

The idea of owning a truck or SUV when the vast vast vast majority of my trips are taking a kid to school or getting groceries is weird to me, but I am not in the business of judging other ilxors for their choices.

have thought about picking up a subie baja before lol

do it

i've a forester.

it's ugly compared to older foresters. it gets terrible mileage. i don't like it, but the lease expired during pandy 2020 so i bought it.

i've told joe this but my dream is that toyota makes the prius v again.

we need a thread on i love cars about hating cars and not knowing anything about cars and having some $400 repair you have to make on your pos 2010 kia sportage wipe out the credit card spending margin you had managed to gain over the last 6 months every 6 months, because you live in poverty, that consists entirely of me posting "bump" every 6 months.

no you should get this the electric baby fj that doesnt actually exist xp

https://i.imgur.com/7C9sopQ.png

i've a forester.

it's ugly compared to older foresters. it gets terrible mileage. i don't like it, but the lease expired during pandy 2020 so i bought it.

i've told joe this but my dream is that toyota makes the prius v again.

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, March 8, 2022 1:28 PM (thirty-nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

the newer gen prii are already pretty v-ish imo

we need a thread on i love cars about hating cars and not knowing anything about cars and having some $400 repair you have to make on your pos 2010 kia sportage wipe out the credit card spending margin you had managed to gain over the last 6 months every 6 months, because you live in poverty, that consists entirely of me posting "bump" every 6 months.

― Nedlene Grendel as Basenji Holmo (map), Tuesday, March 8, 2022 1:30 PM (thirty-nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

:( but also i'd bookmark that thread and cashapp u a $20 everytime u bumped it

the only truck that looks in anyway appealing 2 me is the ford maverick that gets 40 MPG, it looks like a normal sized truck for ppl who actually do things with a truck

― class project pat (m bison), Tuesday, March 8, 2022 2:12 PM (nine seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

its cool that ford came out with a small hybrid pickup but its really not a truck, no real 4wd, built on same unibody platform as the escape, its a "light truck" aka a crossover, same as hondas pickup

― lag∞n, Tuesday, March 8, 2022 1:18 PM (fifty-two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

smh this is the "no true truckman" fallacy

come off it. if it can carry a queen mattress it's a truck.

its not a truck

"The Ford Maverick is a compact pickup truck produced by Ford Motor Company"

not my words. the words of en.wikipedia.org.

m bison you're very sweet but i'm definitely not starting that thread now :P

this is an engineering issue that no manner of marketing can change

tell that to the engineers at en.wikipedia.org.

come off it. if it can carry a queen mattress it's a truck.

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, March 8, 2022 2:16 PM (seventeen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

caek gets to take your us citizenship lagoon, sorry this is ilx law

If that's true, I am a truck.

and a dolly cart is a truck

The idea of owning a truck or SUV when the vast vast vast majority of my trips are taking a kid to school or getting groceries is weird to me, but I am not in the business of judging other ilxors for their choices.

― jenny from the blockchain (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, March 8, 2022 2:24 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

I was def influenced by the time it took me six hours in my non-AWD sedan to get home from work in a snowstorm, albeit that was a pretty unusual storm. Generally speaking streets around me are pretty steep (and my driveway is sloped), and it's been helpful to have the AWD in snow. Renting cars around me is expensive and inconvenient, and I've made a fair amount of use of the cargo space in buying used furniture, home depot trips, taking my kids to ride bikes (although could just get a bike rack) etc. Mileage is only a couple MPG below an accord, so it seemed like nbd. I could definitely live fine without it, but the pluses seemed to outweigh the minuses.

I bought an entire disassembled used 16' trampoline and was able to fit all the parts into the CR-V.

the best car I ever drove in the snow was a Chevy Prizm with FWD

video of man alive: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePAd4kmwMMk

The idea of owning a truck or SUV when the vast vast vast majority of my trips are taking a kid to school or getting groceries is weird to me, but I am not in the business of judging other ilxors for their choices.

― jenny from the blockchain (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, March 8, 2022 2:24 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

fwiw we got a SUV precisely because 90% of our trips involve moving two kids around, sidewalks here are 10" above the street, and my back is shot.

come off it. if it can carry a queen mattress it's a truck.

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, March 8, 2022 2:16 PM (seventeen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

caek gets to take your us citizenship lagoon, sorry this is ilx law

― class project pat (m bison), Tuesday, March 8, 2022 3:35 PM (twenty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

smh effete urban wine sippers who dont even know what a truck is trying to take my citizenship i guess is this america now

i dont even own a wine

i have wine by the stove for red sauce

it's two buck chuck ($3 because i don't live in real america unlike lag00n)

we dont even have that store

*donald glover's "this is america" plays but he's at a trader joe's*

speaking of vans, i've been enjoying this incredible nerd's playlist about converting a ford transit to a camper

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWlfOav4jlvgX7qMTEJfdFWF7sgds3kit

Countdown to when the MAGA Chud Convoy (chudvoy?) takes on unibody construction as anti-American. "Body-on-frame was good enough for the covered wagons our ancestors used and it's good enough for our trucks now!"

landrover fans have been grieving about unibody construction for 5 years now

Yeah like I said I am not tryna be Judgy McJudgerson here, but only you can know whether you're being honest about how often you need to transport a queen-sized mattress.

I own a queen-sized mattress that has been moved precisely once in 15 years, fwiw

Six years since the last time I had to move a queen-sized mattress.

My max load is a couple of guitars, a bass head/cab, pedals/cables, and us with all of our stuff to go on the road for a week. All of that fits amazingly well in a 9 year old Charger - put the rear seats down and you've almost got a small pickup bed hidden inside a sedan.

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3665046

Since 1977, U.S. states have passed laws steadily raising the age for which a child must ride in a car safety seat. These laws significantly raise the cost of having a third child, as many regular-sized cars cannot fit three child seats in the back. Using census data and state-year variation in laws, we estimate that when women have two children of ages requiring mandated car seats, they have a lower annual probability of giving birth by 0.73 percentage points. Consistent with a causal channel, this effect is limited to third child births, is concentrated in households with access to a car, and is larger when a male is present (when both front seats are likely to be occupied). We estimate that these laws prevented only 57 car crash fatalities of children nationwide in 2017. Simultaneously, they led to a permanent reduction of approximately 8,000 births in the same year, and 145,000 fewer births since 1980, with 90% of this decline being since 2000.

thats wild

broke: give women access to contraceptives and education to lower birth rate
merica: GOOD LUCK TRANSPORTING YOUR CHILDREN "MOM"

Yeah I was on the oebdient/careful end of the spectrum but the idea of 12-year-old humans still in car seats is just, um, wow