Semantle: Can you think like a computer?

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it's from Shaggy's "Boombastic"

Mr Xwoba Xwoba

sorry Mario, but our princess is in another butthole (Neanderthal), Saturday, 5 March 2022 01:07 (ten months ago) link

57 for me. Took over 50 guesses to get in the green but it was quick from there

Zelda Zonk, Saturday, 5 March 2022 01:48 (ten months ago) link

I solved Semantle #35 in 52 guesses. My first guess had a similarity of -2.51. My first word in the top 1000 was at guess #7. My penultimate guess had a similarity of 55.80 (997/1000). https://semantle.novalis.org/

thought for a hot second it was gonna be the Shane Warne Memorial Semantle

lemmy incaution (emsworth), Saturday, 5 March 2022 02:12 (ten months ago) link

I solved Semantle #35 in 54 guesses. My first guess had a similarity of 6.47. My first word in the top 1000 was at guess #16. My penultimate guess had a similarity of 5.55. https://semantle.novalis.org/

just got that one out of nowhere but also feel it was a decent enough guess. my nearest prior guess was 826.

47 swing 35.88 826/1000
38 play 31.87 707/1000
41 game 30.32 645/1000
16 wood 27.72 443/1000
48 frame 27.40 408/1000
32 wooden 25.68 165/1000

interesting how much cricket dominates the domain list (id been wondering about US/UK corpus bias) RIP Warne

also it’s a word testing the question of whether you get multiple meaning domains - here would bat as in pipistrelle also feature in the wordlist - no is the fairly obvious answer - these are semantic fields - but my early “going up” scores with “tree” and “garden” did have me wondering.

Fizzles, Saturday, 5 March 2022 04:52 (ten months ago) link

actually that’s baloney cricket doesn’t appear until 864. ignore me, it’s usually best and i haven’t had much sleep.

Fizzles, Saturday, 5 March 2022 04:56 (ten months ago) link

Interesting how completely one-sided Semantle seems to be when it comes to words with multiple meanings. I mean 'bat' as in the flying mammal is not exactly a rare usage, but there's virtually no association with it at all in the top 1000. 'Echolocate' comes in at 693.

Zelda Zonk, Saturday, 5 March 2022 05:12 (ten months ago) link

yeah that’s weird. i’ve read over the word2vec document again and my assumption that the semantic domain will define the meaning of the word (where there are multiple meanings/polysemous) looks wrong. so it must be predominant usage in the corpus?

Fizzles, Saturday, 5 March 2022 06:21 (ten months ago) link

ZZ I tried exactly that after arriving at the answer from the other direction ball, pitch, racquet - I then tried 'echolocation' which was 599 and 'bird' which was 477 but 'fly' was cold

kinder, Saturday, 5 March 2022 13:16 (ten months ago) link

I solved Semantle #35 in 80 guesses. My first guess had a similarity of 8.25. My first word in the top 1000 was at guess #13. My penultimate guess had a similarity of 43.34 (953/1000). https://semantle.novalis.org/

Could have chopped 40 guesses out v easily. Oh well.

removing bookmarks never felt so good (PBKR), Saturday, 5 March 2022 13:24 (ten months ago) link

I solved Semantle #35 in 188 guesses. My first guess had a similarity of 10.64. My first word in the top 1000 was at guess #24. My penultimate guess had a similarity of 48.38 (986/1000). https://semantle.novalis.org/

Fuck this game! Got 'play' early on (after mistyping 'fly'); 'game' yep, 'sport' no, 'rugby' no, 'football' no - ah well better not try any other sports then. Bastard.

ledge, Saturday, 5 March 2022 13:56 (ten months ago) link

I solved Semantle #35 in 61 guesses. My first guess had a similarity of 22.98. My first word in the top 1000 was at guess #12. My penultimate guess had a similarity of 6.99.

Total fluke!

Daniel_Rf, Saturday, 5 March 2022 14:07 (ten months ago) link

lol ledge i would have been livid.

Fizzles, Saturday, 5 March 2022 14:22 (ten months ago) link

it’s all about the angle you come in at. small increments at low levels are really unhelpful and you have to force yourself to almost start from scratch and expand the net of “good” guesses. multiply the angles.

Fizzles, Saturday, 5 March 2022 14:24 (ten months ago) link

I solved Semantle #35 in 26 guesses. My first guess had a similarity of 15.42. My first word in the top 1000 was at guess #13. My penultimate guess had a similarity of 25.87 (203/1000). https://semantle.novalis.org/

Apparently I did come at it a different way to you lot, my path was toward the flying animal - my first green hit was 'bird', so I just tried some other flying things and got lucky with the cute lil night friend.

emil.y, Saturday, 5 March 2022 15:02 (ten months ago) link

I eventually got there with ball which I should have guessed earlier than I did; I did guess hit which isn't there wtf, though some derivatives are.

ledge, Saturday, 5 March 2022 15:07 (ten months ago) link

Gave up on 418 today.

Grandpont Genie, Saturday, 5 March 2022 15:23 (ten months ago) link

Ridiculous number of greens (43) which were a combination of words about warfare, weapons, woodwork tools and gardening tools. .

So, totally see how those relate to what the answer is, but I am not sure I'd have ever got there! Well done those who did.

Grandpont Genie, Saturday, 5 March 2022 15:28 (ten months ago) link

emil.y just swanning in and laughing their way at all the constraints everyone else is wailing about. it’s fascinating how you can create a sub domain out of the main domain and get to the right answer (this happened to me with “bold” where i’d assumed “advertising” out of my words).

ofc get on the wrong tack and omg such a slog.

Fizzles, Saturday, 5 March 2022 15:37 (ten months ago) link

Got there in 62 guesses today

Agnes, Agatha, Germaine and Jack (Willl), Saturday, 5 March 2022 16:06 (ten months ago) link

Gave up today, best was mitt at 959. With my British head on didn’t think about baseball as I’m sure I would have got it if I’d thought of that context.

Dan Worsley, Saturday, 5 March 2022 16:23 (ten months ago) link

I got a bunch of early hits on guns, rifle - but no other army/violence/injury words - then “projectile” led to “ball” and it was a relative waltz from there, but in my mind was definitely cricket rather than baseball - “wicket” scored quite highly i think

lemmy incaution (emsworth), Saturday, 5 March 2022 19:09 (ten months ago) link

I solved Semantle #35 in 59 guesses. My first guess had a similarity of 11.28. My first word in the top 1000 was at guess #4. My penultimate guess had a similarity of 46.21 (974/1000). https://semantle.novalis.org/

I went from wood to door to doorknob to opener and stump and as soon as I tried some cricket words is was straightforward top hits from there!

calzino, Saturday, 5 March 2022 20:53 (ten months ago) link

I solved Semantle #35 in 69 guesses. My first guess had a similarity of 22.98.
My first word in the top 1000 was at guess #5 with “home”.
Got all the way up to 477 at #35 with “bird” and 864 at #65 with “cricket” while being totally on the wrong track (or was I?) (I was thinking flying animals), and then, when I wanted to rule out the *other* meaning with “wicket”, I struck gold. But ironically, it turned out to be a flying animal after all!
My penultimate guess which was “wicket” had a similarity of 46.21 (974/1000).

celebrating ten years of constant posting (breastcrawl), Saturday, 5 March 2022 22:35 (ten months ago) link

That’s a pretty great encapsulation of what makes this game infuriating/fun. I suddenly feel sorry for the poor computers tasked with trying to make sense of this dumb fkn language.

lemmy incaution (emsworth), Saturday, 5 March 2022 23:23 (ten months ago) link

I solved Semantle #36 in 30 guesses. My first guess had a similarity of -2.47. My first word in the top 1000 was at guess #27. My penultimate guess had a similarity of 44.35 (990/1000)

I felt like I was doing a much better job of swivelling through possible domains this time (allowing that there’s always a great deal of luck involved in getting onto the green).

lemmy incaution (emsworth), Sunday, 6 March 2022 00:39 (ten months ago) link

I solved Semantle #36 in 45 guesses. My first guess had a similarity of 7.38. My first word in the top 1000 was at guess #11. My penultimate guess had a similarity of 39.12 (986/1000). https://semantle.novalis.org/

johnny crunch, Sunday, 6 March 2022 00:59 (ten months ago) link

I solved Semantle #36 in 139 guesses. My first guess had a similarity of 16.88. My first word in the top 1000 was at guess #42. My penultimate guess had a similarity of 3.99. https://semantle.novalis.org/

i got 2 words above 800 and struggled. getting the answer didn't really feel like "getting" it even though the answer isn't really far off from what i was stuck on.

, Sunday, 6 March 2022 02:02 (ten months ago) link

I solved Semantle #36 in 63 guesses. My first guess had a similarity of 3.98. My first word in the top 1000 was at guess #36. My penultimate guess had a similarity of 20.42 (317/1000). https://semantle.novalis.org/

slow start but fairly quick once I got into the greens

Roz, Sunday, 6 March 2022 02:03 (ten months ago) link

I solved Semantle #36 in 114 guesses. My first guess had a similarity of -5.71. My first word in the top 1000 was at guess #42. My penultimate guess had a similarity of 54.97 (996/1000). https://semantle.novalis.org/

i read to 69 position (Neanderthal), Sunday, 6 March 2022 03:09 (ten months ago) link

I solved Semantle #36 in 86 guesses. My first guess had a similarity of -12.47. My first word in the top 1000 was at guess #36. My penultimate guess had a similarity of 54.97 (996/1000). https://semantle.novalis.org/

Nhex, Sunday, 6 March 2022 08:13 (ten months ago) link

I solved Semantle #36 in 76 guesses. My first guess had a similarity of 6.26. My first word in the top 1000 was at guess #53. My penultimate guess had a similarity of 52.26 (995/1000). https://semantle.novalis.org/

Can't be unhappy with that but I wish I'd tried my customary 'option' sooner, it only took me three guesses after that.

ledge, Sunday, 6 March 2022 08:20 (ten months ago) link

I solved Semantle #36 in 66 guesses. My first guess had a similarity of 24.42 (766/1000) with “input”, and I had “team” (558/1000) at #5, but I still couldn’t get back in the green with any of the workspace or management speak words I tried until “process” at #47, and I only saw the light at #51 with “diversity” (874/1000).
My penultimate guess ”array” had a similarity of 32.60 (960/1000).

celebrating ten years of constant posting (breastcrawl), Sunday, 6 March 2022 09:02 (ten months ago) link

I solved Semantle #36 in 66 guesses. My first guess had a similarity of -8.42. My first word in the top 1000 was at guess #10. My penultimate guess had a similarity of 35.45 (976/1000). https://semantle.novalis.org/

it took me another 10 guesses after select which is what I presume ledge meant by customary 'option'.

calzino, Sunday, 6 March 2022 09:04 (ten months ago) link

lol nice score, breastcrawl!

calzino, Sunday, 6 March 2022 09:05 (ten months ago) link

I solved Semantle #36 in 44 guesses. My first guess had a similarity of 5.74. My first word in the top 1000 was at guess #35. My penultimate guess had a similarity of 52.26 (995/1000).
The word that clinched it this time was when I hit on menu.

Grandpont Genie, Sunday, 6 March 2022 09:13 (ten months ago) link

Just after I started playing my wife turned in the TV and my first few words were picked out of questions Sophie Raworth was asking the Deputy Minister of Ukraine.

Grandpont Genie, Sunday, 6 March 2022 09:16 (ten months ago) link

*prime minister!

Grandpont Genie, Sunday, 6 March 2022 09:17 (ten months ago) link

lol nice score, breastcrawl!

very nice, innit? the tie breaker definitely falls your way tho, what with that -10 handicap!

celebrating ten years of constant posting (breastcrawl), Sunday, 6 March 2022 09:31 (ten months ago) link

-8.42, I do apologize

celebrating ten years of constant posting (breastcrawl), Sunday, 6 March 2022 09:32 (ten months ago) link

I solved Semantle #36 in 55 guesses. My first guess had a similarity of -2.07. My first word in the top 1000 was at guess #50. My penultimate guess had a similarity of 1.12. https://semantle.novalis.org/

Was going nowhere until I randomly got collection

kinder, Sunday, 6 March 2022 09:33 (ten months ago) link

it took me another 10 guesses after select which is what I presume ledge meant by customary 'option'.

I meant 'option'! which is one of my customary guesses along with mind, brain, love, emotion, math, logic, object, abstract, god, time, space, distance, place, set, run, do, have... and others. Don't know how good a strategy that is as more general terms often aren't a close match but it's probably no worse than any other!

ledge, Sunday, 6 March 2022 10:55 (ten months ago) link

I solved Semantle #36 in 38 guesses. My first guess had a similarity of 5.03. My first word in the top 1000 was at guess #6. My penultimate guess had a similarity of 20.42 (317/1000).

joni mitchell jarre (anagram), Sunday, 6 March 2022 11:31 (ten months ago) link

I solved Semantle #36 in 113 guesses. My first guess had a similarity of -4.03. My first word in the top 1000 was at guess #6. My penultimate guess had a similarity of 52.26 (995/1000). https://semantle.novalis.org/

I got trapped at 947 with quality for quite some time.

removing bookmarks never felt so good (PBKR), Sunday, 6 March 2022 13:12 (ten months ago) link

I solved Semantle #36 in 4 guesses. My first guess had a similarity of 6.71. My first word in the top 1000 was at guess #4. My penultimate guess had a similarity of 5.16. https://semantle.novalis.org/

^ absolute fluke as it was so close to one of the starter words I always use. Still, feeling smug today.

Agnes, Agatha, Germaine and Jack (Willl), Sunday, 6 March 2022 13:21 (ten months ago) link

still trying to get a hang of this thing ... i didn't give up this time and got it in ... 94 lol. First green word came fairly early -- "taste" -- but then I ventured down multiple wrong paths. Then I decided to think like a computer in terms of what people commonly use computers for, and I got there quite quickly! (for me)

sarahell, Sunday, 6 March 2022 14:59 (ten months ago) link

It's normal practice on this thread to hide words that might be construed as hints in spoiler text, fyi.

joni mitchell jarre (anagram), Sunday, 6 March 2022 15:02 (ten months ago) link

Oh my god, this one was a nightmare for me.

I solved Semantle #36 in 257 guesses. My first guess had a similarity of 7.20. My first word in the top 1000 was at guess #16. My penultimate guess had a similarity of 54.97 (996/1000). https://semantle.novalis.org/

My first word in the green was input and it did not help AT ALL. So many wrong paths - I don't think I've ever had as many minus scores. I only got on the right path by sharing ideas with my bf, who I believe is still working on today's.

emil.y, Sunday, 6 March 2022 15:38 (ten months ago) link

i’m doing abysmally. just cannot seem to get in the right place despite one in the 800s.

Fizzles, Sunday, 6 March 2022 15:58 (ten months ago) link

I solved Semantle #36 in 133 guesses. My first guess had a similarity of 0.63. My first word in the top 1000 was at guess #121. My penultimate guess had a similarity of 6.92. https://semantle.novalis.org/

another one that took aaaages to hit green but once in it played fine

nxd, Sunday, 6 March 2022 17:02 (ten months ago) link

why was 'cherry' in the top 1,000 wtf

global tetrahedron, Sunday, 6 March 2022 23:52 (ten months ago) link


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