U.S. Supreme Court: Post-Ginsburg Edition

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Went on a deep dive to understand vaccine polarization and its immense, irreparable cost https://t.co/Bv8ZJAyIMN

— Joss Fong (@JossFong) February 23, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 1 March 2022 18:27 (two years ago) link

current conservative commitment to anti-vaccination is a position I find completely baffling. Is there any good explanation other than just "here's something we can use as a wedge issue"?

It is really not difficult, a lot of people would rather die than see the Venn diagram described by "minorities" and "non-heterosexuals" happy

castanuts (DJP), Tuesday, 1 March 2022 18:37 (two years ago) link

excellent link caek, thanks

the world's undisputed #1 fan of 'Spud Infinity' (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 1 March 2022 18:43 (two years ago) link

there was an episode of that mediocre show Commander in Chief where President Mac (Democrat) took an executive action in an emergency that upset many environmentalists, and Donald Sutherland (rival Republican politician) showed up in support of the environmentalists, one of whom said out loud "Kind of surprised to see you on OUR side". and he wasn't, he was just there to fuck with the Democratic president for cheap political points.

any chance to frustrate liberals and co-opt progressive slogans in the process (i.e. "My Body, My Choice") is like peak troll-boner for these cocks. they don't actually believe anything.

that, and 200% what Dan said.

sorry Mario, but our princess is in another butthole (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 1 March 2022 18:45 (two years ago) link

after all, it's not like conservatives are anti-Big Pharma. they're the assholes who said things like "what's the point of developing drugs if you can't profit from them" and constantly defend big corporations.

but they're also anti-science to a degree, and say shit like "doctors never know anything!". so there is probably some aspect of them that actually is truly anti-vaccine that can't merely be explained by trolling, even if it's an incoherent reason. but mostly, they don't want anybody telling them what to do, which has been the M.O. of conservatives going back 50+ years. "small government stay out of our lives" bullshit. and as someone mentioned last year in another thread, they don't believe THEY'RE going to die from COVID or any other disease, because they have a 'healthy immune system, unlike everybody else'. which is why, dumb as they are, Ebola in the USA freaked them the fuck out, because even as unlikely as it was for anybody to get it, the mortality rate was high, and they were worried they'd get it and get sick or die.

sorry Mario, but our princess is in another butthole (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 1 March 2022 18:52 (two years ago) link

I can't watch that vid rn (at work) but agree very much with "misinformation is an incomplete explanation." It's ALWAYS an incomplete explanation. After all, (1) we all have access to that misinformation, and we aren't all prone to believe it, and (2) we all have access to correct information as well, but that correct information fails to impress those who believe the misinformation. It's not like we live in a dictatorship with a controlled internet where the "misinformation" is the only version we are ever presented. Some people are primed to and even want to believe the misinformation for whatever reason (it owns the libs, it feels good, the alternative just seems scary, etc.).

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 1 March 2022 18:59 (two years ago) link

Yeah the vox explainer I posted is very vox. The motivation for leaders on the right who manufacture consent via fox etc. probably boils down to “the cruelty is the point”.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 1 March 2022 18:59 (two years ago) link

to me it started as a symbiotic relationship. Trump did all he could to frame the pandemic as a hoax or conspiracy, so the anti-vax quacks and true believers jumped right in behind him and rode Trump's coattails into the mainstream. now it's conservative dogma and they can't back away without committing heresy and being excommunicated.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 1 March 2022 19:03 (two years ago) link

IDK, Trump was pretty openly pro-vax. He wanted all the credit for it!

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 1 March 2022 19:09 (two years ago) link

More on the “major questions “ judicial doctrine that conservative justices are using to kill agency actions on climate change , vax rules , and more . Punting items back to Congress to decide, rather than letting agencies do so

https://www.vox.com/2022/2/28/22954696/supreme-court-epa-west-virginia-clean-power-plan-brett-kavanaugh-samuel-alito

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 1 March 2022 19:13 (two years ago) link

By the time the vaccine arrived in December 2020 and Trump decided he wanted full credit for it the floodgates had already been opened for months on the line that "it's all a hoax designed to let the government trample on your FREEDOMS" and that current was running too strongly among the Q-adjacent and Q-susceptible for even Trump to swim against.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 1 March 2022 19:18 (two years ago) link

xxpost but not before he called COVID a 'hoax' and referred to it as the "corona flu virus" and suggested he was going to make all of the states open whether they were ready or not. and refusing to mask for a very long time.

sure, he pivoted to bragging about the vaccine because he knew the pandemic was killing him, but that's because he felt he could steal some independent voters by embracing it/taking credit for it. he also probably thought the vaccine would end the pandemic in like ten minutes too, because that's his kind of magical thinking.

sorry Mario, but our princess is in another butthole (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 1 March 2022 19:20 (two years ago) link

To realize this Master of Branding could've saved thousands of lives by handing out face masks with his name on them and didn't is to wonder what snail mush his brain is made of.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 1 March 2022 19:23 (two years ago) link

I also think a big part of it for the past year comes down to the hope that failing efforts to slow COVID can be pinned on the Biden administration and help swing upcoming elections towards republicans who can say that the vaccine didn't do what was promised

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 1 March 2022 19:25 (two years ago) link

all underpinned by this idea that most of the people who were going to die from COVID were "them" rather than "us"

castanuts (DJP), Tuesday, 1 March 2022 19:29 (two years ago) link

It's not like we live in a dictatorship with a controlled internet where the "misinformation" is the only version we are ever presented.

Grimaces in Chomsky

we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Tuesday, 1 March 2022 20:37 (two years ago) link

and Other Stories

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 1 March 2022 21:00 (two years ago) link

Number 1: Straight up racist.
Number 2: Right, we always hear about LSAT scores for Republican judges.
Number 3: LSAT scores are about getting into law school, not the quality of a legal mind.
Number 4: Trump's grades and taxes...
Number 5-100: Straight up racist. https://t.co/lvVYHzgQt3

— Dan Rather (@DanRather) March 3, 2022

the world's undisputed #1 fan of 'Spud Infinity' (Karl Malone), Thursday, 3 March 2022 16:04 (two years ago) link

I have never once been asked my LSAT score since graduating law school.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 3 March 2022 16:06 (two years ago) link

i can't believe he says stuff like this almost every single day and not only is he not fired, but no one even bothers to ask that he be fired. bill o'reilly was in the same time slot for many years, top rated, and he wasn't fired/mandatory resigned until it became known that fox had already settled five sexual harassment claims on his behalf. the abusing women part of it was fine to fox; people finding out was the problem.

i find it INTENSELY CREEPY that he has the #1 "news" program, and that the #1 radio "news" program was rush fucking limbaugh for years and years, and that joe fucking rogan is the #1 whatever he is. people lap this hatred up on a nightly basis, it is completely fucked up and weird

the world's undisputed #1 fan of 'Spud Infinity' (Karl Malone), Thursday, 3 March 2022 16:21 (two years ago) link

i realize some people are beginning to regret their first trump era cancellations of friends and family. maybe they should not have done that, maybe they need to learn to forgive and forget a little.

yeah...no. fuck these people 1000000000000000000x over. you can't watch or listen to this shit for more than 5 minutes without feeling like you're inducted a fascist training camp. also i fucking hate tucker carlson's FACE so much, i would love for someone to throw a bowling ball right in the middle of it

the world's undisputed #1 fan of 'Spud Infinity' (Karl Malone), Thursday, 3 March 2022 16:24 (two years ago) link

xp to people flummoxed by right-wing opposition to vaccination: it seems to me a pretty clear instance of "You can't tell me what to do!" thinking, which is one of the twin pillars of all contemporary right-wing thought, alongside "You can tell the wrong kind of people what to do."

feed me with your chips (zchyrs), Thursday, 3 March 2022 16:29 (two years ago) link

Those who can't find anything to live for,
always invent something to die for.

Then they want the rest of us to
die for it, too.

we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Thursday, 3 March 2022 17:05 (two years ago) link

"The Basic Con," by the late great Lew Welch

we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Thursday, 3 March 2022 17:06 (two years ago) link

the rest of us, god's unchosen people

the world's undisputed #1 fan of 'Spud Infinity' (Karl Malone), Thursday, 3 March 2022 17:07 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas was hospitalized with flu-like symptoms and diagnosed with an infection, court says. https://t.co/Zlt736elvM

— CNN (@CNN) March 20, 2022

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Sunday, 20 March 2022 23:58 (two years ago) link

be still his heart

class project pat (m bison), Monday, 21 March 2022 00:01 (two years ago) link

An infection of what

Otto Insurance (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 21 March 2022 01:00 (two years ago) link

I have dumbass Black neoliberals in my Facebook feed wishing Clarence Thomas a speedy recovery and I’m like “no, die bitch”

castanuts (DJP), Monday, 21 March 2022 01:27 (two years ago) link

One wonders if he’s vaccinated against the novel coronavirus.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 21 March 2022 01:33 (two years ago) link

All justices are purportedly vaxed and boosted

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 21 March 2022 02:07 (two years ago) link

Come on Grim Reaper, give us this one please

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 21 March 2022 02:12 (two years ago) link

pls pls pls pls pls pls pls

politics is about vibes and the vibes are off (stevie), Monday, 21 March 2022 09:21 (two years ago) link

I've been so good, I deserve it

politics is about vibes and the vibes are off (stevie), Monday, 21 March 2022 09:21 (two years ago) link

god? are you listening?????

Tracer Hand, Monday, 21 March 2022 10:22 (two years ago) link

It's me, everybody who's not a c*** in America.

politics is about vibes and the vibes are off (stevie), Monday, 21 March 2022 10:42 (two years ago) link

Perhaps it was from an infected pubic hair on his Coke.

peace, man, Monday, 21 March 2022 10:54 (two years ago) link

You'll know the matrix is glitching if Biden gets to pick Thomas' replacement.

move over GAPDY, now there's BIG THIEF! (PBKR), Monday, 21 March 2022 11:04 (two years ago) link

You'll know the matrix is glitching if Biden gets to pick Thomas' replacement.

Haha, "and the judicial committee approves the nomination of Clarence Thomas Jr.!"

pplains, Monday, 21 March 2022 13:33 (two years ago) link

brb, buying Gorsuch BASE-jumping lessons

castanuts (DJP), Monday, 21 March 2022 13:39 (two years ago) link

In the first 35 minutes Grassley and Graham mentioned Miguel Estrada, Janice Rogers Brown, and broken car windows and spittle during the Kav hearings.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 21 March 2022 16:22 (two years ago) link

the GOP strategy is just to complain about past hearings?

Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Monday, 21 March 2022 16:41 (two years ago) link

building a justification for the shitty things they're going to do/say?

Heez, Monday, 21 March 2022 16:44 (two years ago) link

How’d day 1 go?

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 22 March 2022 01:33 (two years ago) link

I heard Lindsay Graham had a few crackers.

Max Hamburgers (Eric H.), Tuesday, 22 March 2022 01:42 (two years ago) link

Brown Jackson seems like an excellent nominee, it's just really hard to get enthusiastic about a 3-6 court going into an election where dems are about to get slaughtered. At least it (probably) won't be 2-7 I guess?

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 22 March 2022 01:45 (two years ago) link

used to be alito followed scalia's lead like they were grafted together in a scotus version of the human centipede. why can't he do it just one more time?

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 22 March 2022 01:53 (two years ago) link

the GOP said that they were definitely not going to ask the Judge if she likes beer.

Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Tuesday, 22 March 2022 14:18 (two years ago) link

Fuck Ted Cruz

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 22 March 2022 18:49 (two years ago) link

Ted Cruz going after the 1619 Project and CRT at the hearings right now

Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Tuesday, 22 March 2022 18:49 (two years ago) link


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