HBO's Succession - Season 2 and Beyond

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Two episodes into S3. I always look forward to Connor's weirdness--Greg's weirdness seems a little studied, whereas Connor strikes me as a original creation.

One thing I'm starting to find a little repetitive--and I know how silly this sounds, seeing as it's the premise of the whole show--are these critical moments where Logan has to pick his successor. It feels like the fourth time around already, but every time, all the kids start speculating in earnest on who it will be. If this were a Seinfeld episode, someone would speak up and say "Haven't we had this conversation before?"

clemenza, Monday, 28 February 2022 01:21 (two years ago) link

Pretty much the only knock I'd put on this excellent show is that it goes in circles a bit, so I feel your point there. Silicon Valley, another HBO show, also had that exact problem, and after a while it was hard to feel there were any stakes. Succession hasn't gotten there yet for me, but if it spins long enough, I can see it losing emotional stake

Vinnie, Monday, 28 February 2022 03:13 (two years ago) link

Though on the issue of Logan picking his successor, he has vested interest in NOT picking someone, and instead letting everyone fight against each other

Vinnie, Monday, 28 February 2022 03:15 (two years ago) link

yeah the groundhog day aspect of that is part of the point i think

Tracer Hand, Monday, 28 February 2022 08:27 (two years ago) link

I think I just want them to push back more, and in S2, they do: when Logan offers Shiv a newly created post as President, she kind of rolls her eyes and asks if that means mascot.

Not sure if Holly Hunter will be back, but, as always, she was great (she reminded me a bit of Patricia Clarkson on House of Cards, this shadowy intermediary). And I hope Marcia's role is expanded from here on out; her absence for a couple of episodes hurt.

clemenza, Monday, 28 February 2022 14:35 (two years ago) link

And, uh, obviously Kendall pushes back.

clemenza, Monday, 28 February 2022 16:15 (two years ago) link

no steaks on succession? i beg to differ

(i searched for a picture of them eating steak but couldnt find one)

lag∞n, Monday, 28 February 2022 16:23 (two years ago) link

Boars--rare, like an aristocrat.

clemenza, Monday, 28 February 2022 16:26 (two years ago) link

the show is good but what couldve made it really great is if when they were playing boar on the floor logan said "the winner of this game will be the successor" and the successor then entered into a series of intrigues which were resolved by seasons end, and in the next season there are more intrigues

lag∞n, Monday, 28 February 2022 16:31 (two years ago) link

ive written a treatment for a serialized reimagining of antonionis red desert that works in a similar way

lag∞n, Monday, 28 February 2022 16:34 (two years ago) link

A show focused entirely on Romulas's sex life, that's the spin-off the world is waiting for.

clemenza, Monday, 28 February 2022 16:35 (two years ago) link

I have a title: My So-Called Sex Life.

clemenza, Monday, 28 February 2022 16:36 (two years ago) link

Kendall would totally do sloppy steaks

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, 28 February 2022 16:40 (two years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Took a break for a couple of weeks, finished S3 last night. About equal to S2, I think. I watch, I'm engaged, I like it, don't love it. Maybe I'm one of those rubes who needs someone to root for--if anything, I sometimes find myself rooting for Logan, who's at least authentic (and I like the ways--his smile, the tilt of his head--he keeps everything close to his vest). But I know he's awful, so "rooting" isn't exactly the right word. Found Kendall's breakdown in the finale moving (and wanted to throttle joke-machine Roman, but that's who he is too, anything else would be false). I actually missed the key point about Tom near the end of the finale until I read up afterwards. (One of my favourite things is when Tom and Shiv, working in tandem, clown around at someone's expense, usually Greg's. Tom, who's such a simp and a cipher at times, has a really funny, cutting sense of humour in those situations.)

clemenza, Monday, 21 March 2022 13:44 (two years ago) link

I loved Roman in that scene - using his sociopathic wit to console Kendall and help someone else, for once.

symsymsym, Monday, 21 March 2022 15:21 (two years ago) link

Definitely quotable: "I guess I'm just trying to say, like, who's the real victim here? I waited three quarters of an hour for a gin and tonic." Even Kendall started to laugh...Also loved Tom's line about Greg potentially being Europe's weirdest monarch.

clemenza, Monday, 21 March 2022 15:39 (two years ago) link

Yeah you can really see how Roman has become trapped by his armor of misanthropy, this is what being emotionally supportive looks like because he literally cant do those other supportive things people do, like console, hug, hold eye contact etc.

this *is* Roman being there for kendall

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 21 March 2022 16:20 (two years ago) link

yes

that deflective joke was love

Tracer Hand, Monday, 21 March 2022 18:37 (two years ago) link

apparently kendall sitting on the ground was an improv move that ruined the continuity of every other take they'd done but it became the keeper

those angles, the bright day creating this deep focus that went for miles, roman standing in the background, it was like a fuckin.. idk giocametti sculpture or something

Tracer Hand, Monday, 21 March 2022 18:39 (two years ago) link

otm

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 21 March 2022 19:05 (two years ago) link

two months pass...

I’m about halfway through s2 of this and I honestly love it??? I’m on the episode where they have protests about their Nazi news anchor and it’s so good. “I’m intellectually promiscuous but culturally conservative”. I love most of these awful people, but I have to be honest and say I love love love when anything bad happens to Tom. What a cunt.

gyac, Sunday, 22 May 2022 19:25 (one year ago) link

you don't hyper-decant ?!


This was incredible. I hate Connor nearly as much as Tom, I deeply hope something awful happens to him.

gyac, Sunday, 22 May 2022 19:28 (one year ago) link

yeah but if it was that bad they wouldn't be around to suffer, like.

Stevolende, Sunday, 22 May 2022 19:42 (one year ago) link

the hardest i've ever laughed at this show is when tom tried to say he'd never met greg and that cut to shiv losing her mind.


It was incredible! The whole deposition is a work of art!

gyac, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 10:56 (one year ago) link

If it is to be said.

Chewshabadoo, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 13:01 (one year ago) link

I've been watching Inventing Anna (against my better judgement) and Stewie and Tabitha from Succession are playing a married couple in it, it was confusing to me, if it is to be said.

kinder, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 16:36 (one year ago) link

I actually nearly died from the secondhand embarrassment here, he’s so awful 😭😭😭

succession clip kendall roy tells public relations consultant berry schneider “I’d like my twitter to be off the hook” and goes on to say he’s thinking about hitting up some “BoJack guys” for his feed, a thought which berry questions “like cool tweets to position you?” pic.twitter.com/MetrpSW9Z3

— succession clips and reaction videos (@successionreact) October 22, 2021

gyac, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 17:11 (one year ago) link

three weeks pass...

Watching s2 for the second time (not seen s3). Didn't catch Shiv referring to Connor as "the first pancake" before (in the Dundee episode, I think.) Oof, lol.

Noel Emits, Monday, 20 June 2022 10:32 (one year ago) link

four months pass...

It's not much but

Succession season 4. Spring 2023. pic.twitter.com/tacvG1J9B7

— no context succession (@nocontextroyco) October 24, 2022

Number None, Monday, 24 October 2022 12:12 (one year ago) link

bring it on

kinder, Monday, 24 October 2022 13:27 (one year ago) link

lol tom

lag∞n, Monday, 24 October 2022 13:56 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

rewatching for the (mumbled) time

i tried to be nerdy & cool this time & watch objectively and admire the construction & figure out how early they were driving various story elements but it’s so easy to get sucked into the scene drama / dialogue i’m just going to be uncool & laugh along like a poor

most shows don’t hold up this well for me

pic.twitter.com/DKtVpwDZyq

— no context succession (@nocontextroyco) September 13, 2022

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 31 December 2022 20:27 (one year ago) link

Rewatched the Kendall's 40th Birthday episode a bit ago, and it really is so perfectly made.

The self-titled drags (Eazy), Saturday, 31 December 2022 20:46 (one year ago) link

I really want to push Nate out of the airlock, what a heinously limp character

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 2 January 2023 06:46 (one year ago) link

anyone seen THE MENU? thought it kinda sucked. while watching it I was thinking it’d make more sense as a three-episode prestige limited series on HBO or netflix or something, so it made a lot of sense when I learned that the director is the succession guy

k3vin k., Sunday, 15 January 2023 16:54 (one year ago) link

Peter Friedman, who plays Frank, is excellent in She Said as Lanny Davis.

clemenza, Sunday, 15 January 2023 16:57 (one year ago) link

i have not watched the menu but many people are saying it sucked

lag∞n, Sunday, 15 January 2023 18:22 (one year ago) link

I loved it overall, good fun.

change display name (Jordan), Sunday, 15 January 2023 19:18 (one year ago) link

the menu feels v divisive...wonder if ill love it...

xheugy eddy (D-40), Tuesday, 17 January 2023 23:46 (one year ago) link

basically it’s good if you go into it with the expectation that it’ll be a fun comedy-horror with good performances. if you’re expecting a smart satire you’re going to be disappointed.

na (NA), Wednesday, 18 January 2023 00:35 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

Season 4 will be the final season, reveals Jesse Armstrong:
https://www.newyorker.com/culture/the-new-yorker-interview/the-end-of-succession-is-near

jaymc, Friday, 24 February 2023 03:10 (one year ago) link

jeremy strong annoyed everyone into ending the show

lag∞n, Friday, 24 February 2023 03:22 (one year ago) link

ok well then start coming up w a show to get me over the end of this one bc i will NOT be ok

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 24 February 2023 03:24 (one year ago) link

they should do five seasons why not thats a normal amount i think they will do five

lag∞n, Friday, 24 February 2023 03:24 (one year ago) link

i feel like they had 5 in them but if this season kicks ass front to back then good for them

call all destroyer, Friday, 24 February 2023 03:31 (one year ago) link

ugh they should def do a fifth season, especially since season 1 felt like such a trial run

avatár the way of watár (voodoo chili), Friday, 24 February 2023 17:45 (one year ago) link

I haven’t read this book but I’m mad at the author for not having written two sequels 😡

least said, sergio mendes (sic), Friday, 24 February 2023 17:57 (one year ago) link

Really enjoyed rewatching s4 over the last week. Wonder if we'll see *Jeryd Mencken* again in the new one.

nashwan, Saturday, 25 February 2023 16:39 (one year ago) link

u wot now

kinder, Saturday, 25 February 2023 21:49 (one year ago) link


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