Worst "genre" created by a journalist part 4534547668686 : 'Hypnagogic Pop' by David Keenan.

i'm going to come out and say it - i started the term moan wave, or at least had a hand in it.

Is your name Luk3?

y

you were the one given credit on the morgue ...

you know the two of you should post on the rolling noise thread since nobody else does

I don't buy/listen to much in the way of noise records though ... just see a bunch of shows.

i post on brutalsfx for my noise needs. this list is just to read what the limey's are saying....

but :sigh: ok fine.

we could post highlights of b-sfx threads on the noise thread.

fine with me

At least this thread, and therefore this daft article and silly term, has got me listening to Emeralds. I'd dismissed them after hearing some of their older stuff - "Bullshit boring drone band" wasn't just a clever name - but really enjoying What Happened & Solar Bridge now.

not enough noise on ILM imo

i saw emeralds play with TG here in brooklyn. tuff crowd no doubt, and the sound man was giving them problems but i thought they were good. unfortunately, the new age/noise cliche of starting out *soft* and ending *loud* was there. i aint no fans of build ups. get up and get out, thats my motto! :)

Do they actually end loud though? On record I kinda think they build up to something that's more expansive than actually loud. They're not really noisy enough to be a noise band but I did like Solar Bridge a lot and I haven't really given What Happened a proper go.

This guy's a real turd. He's what, a decade late to the party? Noise + post-rock + hippie dippy crap = 2002-2006. Late to the party, man, so stop trying to make up for it by inventing funny soundin names

Bullshit Boring Drone Band is still good, i prefer their older stuff anyway. Allegory of Allergies still being the uh...masterpiece

Emeralds don't belong in that article really, he's trying too hard to lump in a bunch of stuff so it doesn;t seem as thin as it really is. Those guys aren't that dreamer/outer space surrealist type like The Skaters are

and James Ferraro makes up titles in his 'catalog' which people order to find out eventually they don't exist in real life, which Ferarro isn't about though....

Spectrum, what bands from 2002-2006 are you thinking of by the way?

This guy's a real turd. He's what, a decade late to the party? Noise + post-rock + hippie dippy crap = 2002-2006. Late to the party, man, so stop trying to make up for it by inventing funny soundin names

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Jesus I fucking hate posts like this

lol @ b-sfx... i was a heavy poster there back in teh daze.

379 40th RIP

saw some great shows there. I remember how no one was supposed to stand outside and were supposed to walk around the block instead.

Reynolds: "These American acts I've never heard whose music has been described by one journalist as 'woozy, nostalgic for 80s childhood' are not nearly as good as these completely sonically and culturally unrelated UK acts whose music has been described by me as 'wonky, nostalgic for 80s childhood'"

Still, points for "hipstergogic", I guess

woozy over wonky any day

what a disaster for woozy! (being lumped in with wonky like that)

I think I must've got the wrong Ferraro stuff (there is, after all, a great deal of it, most of which disappears long before I know about it) because I haven't been reminded of 80s pop by what I've heard at all. Don't recall too many "bombastic 1980s power vocals" from Pocahaunted either but then I haven't listened in a while. I'm just going to imagine that everything else sounds like John Maus for the article to make sense to me.

i agree, i can see a band like Pocahaunted being inspired by that sorta stuff but they really don't sound like that at all

so er how about that british visionary jazz article eh?

That was interesting but the Wire just couldn't resist giving it a stupid tag like "Visionary Jazz". Only reason I bought this was because I was on my way up to Glasgow and needed something to read. Stopped buying it when it became a Goth metal rag for people who don't actually like rock music.

when was that?

Who gives a fuck?

But, basically, when Chris Bohn took over

Stopped buying it when it became a Goth metal rag for people who don't actually like rock music

And there's absolutely nothing wrong with a tag like "visionary jazz" either. "Hypnagogic pop" strikes me as rather silly, but in this case Rob Young is bang on target.

Stopped buying it when it became a Goth metal rag for people who don't actually like rock music

― Nuts, whole hazelnuts, HEEUUUUUUUURGGHHH! (Tom D.),

That is not actually anything like what the Wire is about at all.

― anagram,

well he wouldn't know, remember he stopped buying it!

just saw "hypnagogic pop" used on Pitchfork (alongside "glo-fi"). he treated it condescendingly, but i think the better approach is SEAL IT IN A BOX SO THAT IT CAN NEVER SEE THE LIGHT OF DAY

And there's absolutely nothing wrong with a tag like "visionary jazz" either. "Hypnagogic pop" strikes me as rather silly, but in this case Rob Young is bang on target.

Not really sure what makes it visionary, but interesting article undoubtedly

Is it "Visionary Jazz" or "British Visionary Jazz"?

Latter, I do get the "British" bit, I admit

The former seems so strongly to refer to Americans in the 60s and 70s (Sun Ra, Ornette, Ayler, etc.) - and a certain spirituality entwined with the music - that it just seems weird to me.

I suppose that was the point

Jason_Wynn
psych pop iz a poze, hypnagogic pop iz a leifschteil, 29, Male, Germany

^feeling this

on some Bruno shit

I think the Blues Control and Nite Jewel albums are the best hypnogog albums of the year and he totally missed em

maybe he doesnt have exclusive uk distribution for overpriced ltd cdrs/tapes?

Tips for successful drone/noise distribution:

1) Coin phrase in magazine.

2) Start sprinkling coined phrase into your own distro descriptions.

From Volcanic Tongue:

Julian Lynch
Orange You Glad
Olde English Spelling Bee OESB-41
LP
£15.99
You might have spotted Julian Lynch’s name as a member of Ducktails and Predator Vision, but behind the scenes he has been amassing a fairly formidable catalogue of solo CD-Rs that are near perfect articulations of Hypnagogic pop...

The word "hypnagogic" or some derivation of is used four more times in the latest VT update. They're really running with this!

a bit obnoxious yeah

wankers

lol

any overpriced ltd cdrs of these bands that they held back when they got them to cash in on now theyre OOP?

i still haven't read the wire article, but this thread lead me to check out the skaters and all this other beautiful noise that i didn't know existed. i guess oneohtrix point never is part of this thing*, i gotta recommend "a pact between strangers" and "ruined lives"... warm n rich analogue drones... this "genre" name itself is offensively stupid, though