Music in Ads

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Also, Darnelle produces gr8 music and if the "no surrender" ethos aids him in this then more power to it.

Sterling Clover, Friday, 24 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Also: "Where's Your Cheese At".

hahahahahaha.

Sterling Clover, Friday, 24 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

(ethos = necessary misreading sterl!?)

mark s, Friday, 24 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Since we're all clarifying our positions here, I would like to state that I too do not think ads are a good way to hear music. I just don't think there's anything intrinsically wrong with it.

There is one song I can think of that will forever be associated with an ad (I guess you have to live in the US to get it tho): Bob Seger's "Like a Rock." There is no way he can ever play that song again without people seeing a Chevy (I think) ad in their minds. However, that took years and years of mindless repetition to achieve. And I bet him and his kids never need to work another day because of it.

Ben Williams, Friday, 24 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

sinkah: absolutely! the slippage is what makes art social!

Sterling Clover, Friday, 24 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Something that didn't occur to me until this morning: a few years ago the Bank Of Montreal ran an ad featuring "The Times They Are A-Changin'" and the ensuing uproar was absolutely fascinating: it said more aboutappropriation, "sellouts", Dylan, 60's counterculture self-image then/now, Boomers in Business, etc than any essay on the subject ever could.

The Bank's statement came from spokeman George Bothwell: "We thought the lyrics caught rather nicely the imperative for large institutions, like banks, that they face having to change".

The Actual Mr. Jones, Friday, 24 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

I own The Typo today.

The Actual Mr. Jones, Friday, 24 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

two weeks pass...
Reasons why TV ads can be good: "Without You" -- an average technoid song made brilliant by the twisty hand movements which everyone in America now does while driving to this song.

Sterling Clover, Monday, 10 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

one year passes...
htey shouldn't put ads in music just because we listen to it the most

king, Sunday, 25 April 2004 16:13 (twenty years ago) link

"hicks marketed and advertised himself"

Oh, shut the fuck up. He never appeared on any Gap commercials or pepsi advertisements and didn't allow his work to be displayed on such commercials, either. Obviously you decided to skew the intent of what Bill Hicks meant to serve your own stupid fucking needs.

Die.

huh, Sunday, 25 April 2004 17:07 (twenty years ago) link

"Saint Bill Hicks lived on the planet where everything's free, and he never advertised his shows or cd's, he never appeared on network television, he never accepted payment for his Kounter-Kulture Komedy Kavalcades, his shows were never an excuse for club owners to sell liquor, he never talked about his favourite brands of cigarettes and booze as if they defined him as a freewheeling rebel who played by his own rules... of course he's entitled to cast moral judgements on how people earn a living - he was an artist, maaaaaaaaan.
And his collegiate fan base never used their parents' ill-gotten gains to pay for 4 - 8 year vacations in Bongville.

fuck that hippy crap."

Spoken like a true idiot. congratulations, dumbfuck.

uh, Sunday, 25 April 2004 17:09 (twenty years ago) link

and by the way, he appeared on HBO, which is far removed from the basic cable masses, free of Budweiser, McDonald's and other corporate commercials. Yea, still a part of "pop culture", but christ, hardly the same thing.

Your argument is as tenuous as arguing that somebody who has socialist/communist beliefs is a sellout for accepting money for their cds.

uh, Sunday, 25 April 2004 17:12 (twenty years ago) link

two months pass...
Wow! I didn't realize how strongly some people feel about certain music being used in ads! LOL! I mean c'mon people! Lighten up! It's music....some notes on a page. And we're not talking the likes of Dvorak or Beethoven, for the most part. I mean "Pink Moon"??? Have you musically analyzed the piece? Nothing theoretically brilliant there. So what if it's used in a VW commercial. What do you care? Advertisers use the songs they use because they think it will help sell their product because of the affect the music has on people or the people they are targeting to sell. Sheeeeooot.....I saw a commercial the other day for a toilet that used part of Mozart's Requiem Mass.......I thought it ingenious! Laughed hysterically....c'mon......lighten up folks!

Anilese Kissling, Thursday, 1 July 2004 02:37 (nineteen years ago) link

seven months pass...
Interesting thread. I agreed with the opinions that many of us don't like the songs being used in commercials because it feels like they are taking something we are attached to and exploiting it so now joe average is now aware of it, but in a cheaper sense. The post about not wanting to include "used" songs in mixtapes out of fear that they would think we just learned about the song from the ad was honest and on the money.

Sometimes I'm glad an artist gets exposure (The Sonics with Have Love Will Travel, etc) but sometimes we feel that you're cheapening a song by exposing it to the average person.

What can happen is that we stop taking music at face value and it serves the prupose of being another extension of ourselves. Exploiting "hip" music can make hipsters feel like they're being exploited. Hip people seeking hip music to go along with their other hip tastes.

As for Mr. Hicks, he was hilariious but contradictory. He would rave about gov't conspiracies while simultaneously denouncing "gun-nuts" (why does he think they have so many guns?). He would also talk about how stupid gun people are for thinking that "more guns will mean less crime" when he followed that logic when it came to his opinions about the war on drugs. He thought it was incredibly stupid to think prosecuting drug users it would make anything better. His logic was "more drugs, less problems".

The problem with many "fight the man and/or corporate greed" people is that they define things like "greed" in an awfully shady way. When people come up with ways to make money giving the public what they want it's "private greed", but when they tell the people what they should want it's public interest. It was "Do What Thou Wilt" until they started losing their own money, and then it was "STOP ALL THE DOWNLOADIN'", to cite just one example.

Cunga (Cunga), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 08:46 (nineteen years ago) link

five years pass...

Wasn't expecting to be introduced to the sounds of JIM REEVES through an ad but hey it works!

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 30 March 2010 19:42 (fourteen years ago) link

(or other sounds beyond the one xmas tune...)

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 30 March 2010 19:43 (fourteen years ago) link


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