Uglier Than the Pat Tillman Statue

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he was a professional american football player who enlisted in the army to serve his country in afghanistan but then he was killed by friendly fire and the pentagon spun it like he was a true patriot or some bullshit but it just came out that he hated george bush and was a big noam chomsky fan. you would have got along i think.

― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 06:35 (seventeen years ago) link

oh and when that chomsky shit came out last week all the right-wing bloggers talked about how he had betrayed them...

― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 06:36 (seventeen years ago) link

That's awful nice of you. I was just going to post a link to Google.

― aesthetically pleasing, in other words 'fly' (kenan), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 06:37 (seventeen years ago) link

like jesse jackson accusing thomas jefferson of betrayal

― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 06:37 (seventeen years ago) link

I must go back a ways. Someone has to explain me this:

http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/7076/nbfs2xr2.gif

― aesthetically pleasing, in other words 'fly' (kenan), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 06:47 (seventeen years ago) link

I mean, it's kinda ugly, I guess, but it's also fucking looney tunes. Doesn't that trump ugly?

― aesthetically pleasing, in other words 'fly' (kenan), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 06:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Is that supposed to be Pat Tillman's hair flowing a'forth? Cuz like, a crueller person might suggest it looks like brains being blown out. A heh heh.

― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 07:07 (seventeen years ago) link

i thought it was supposed to be brains

― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 07:13 (seventeen years ago) link

The MLK is the only statue on this thread worse than the Pat Tillman.

― researching ur life (grady), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 08:29 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm on my way to bed. I wonder which of these statues I'll have bad dreams about.

― From the Moon to Pluto Back Down to Earth (Rrrickey), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 10:56 (seventeen years ago) link

If he was a war martyr, why on earth portray him playing football instead of something more, you know, dignified?

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 11:16 (seventeen years ago) link

he was a professional american football player

Call me stupid, but I think this might have something to do with it.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 12:50 (seventeen years ago) link

more dignified? like being killed by friendly fire?

― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 12:54 (seventeen years ago) link

I can sorta see the idea of portraying him in a footaball outfit, but why make his mouth gape and his hair flow like he's about to rock? Surely a more dignified expression would've been better.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 13:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Also, can someone explain what's happening with the Queen Charlotte statue?

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 13:11 (seventeen years ago) link

I can sorta see the idea of portraying him in a footaball outfit, but why make his mouth gape and his hair flow like he's about to rock? Surely a more dignified expression would've been better.

Tuomas, FFS, this thread is called "uglier than the Pat Tillmans statue", don't you think everyone on here has already asked themselves those questions?

― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 13:16 (seventeen years ago) link

A simple GIS finds the picture that was used for photo reference.

Mercury News says:

Modeled after one of the better-known photos of Tillman, the statue features him in mid-stride, long hair flowing, helmet in one hand and mouthpiece in the other, and with his mouth open as if he's roaring. The sculpture's backdrop is a curved wall of black concrete that gives the memorial both an understated and reverential quality.

``I'm really pleased they decided to portray him that way,'' said Jim Kaskie, a Mesa man who also wore Tillman's No. 40 jersey. ``That's the way I'll always remember Pat.''

So, they made the statue so that people would recognise it. SEEMS KIND OF SENSIBLE.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 13:22 (seventeen years ago) link

http://static.flickr.com/75/205101130_ab5f1c1f49_m.jpg http://static.flickr.com/91/205243740_01684548a5_m.jpg

― Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 13:29 (seventeen years ago) link

http://static.flickr.com/76/205243741_03c518e343_m.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/61/205243736_c57b4bbec5_m.jpg

― Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 13:31 (seventeen years ago) link

If he was a war martyr, why on earth portray him playing football instead of something more, you know, dignified?

-- Tuomas (lixnix...), November 15th, 2006.

Here, I think, is the boundary of your understanding of American culture.

― A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 14:07 (seventeen years ago) link

So was he better known as a footballer than as a casualty of war?

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 14:09 (seventeen years ago) link

He is known as a casualty of war because he was known as a footballer.

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 14:11 (seventeen years ago) link

put it this way, if he hadn't initially been a famous footballer he would be about as well known as most casualtys of war. i.e. not very.

xpost exactly

― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 14:12 (seventeen years ago) link

casualties argh.

― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 14:13 (seventeen years ago) link

More ugly statues less disingenuous Finns plz

― ONIMO feels teh NOIZE (GerryNemo), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 14:14 (seventeen years ago) link

I have nothing to contribute, but thought I'd just say how much I'm enjoying this thread.

― chap who would dare to welcome our new stingray masters (chap), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 14:15 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.connection.se/hem/anders/resor/lenin/bild/m.jpg

(So ugly is was chopped up then some idiot put it back together)

― ONIMO feels teh NOIZE (GerryNemo), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 14:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Tuomas, I wasn't being sarcastic to you either, I just meant that the people who put up the statue would probably ask "What's more dignified than football?" My alma mater has a good football team for the first time in recent memory and people are acting like it's the second coming of Christ.

― A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 14:20 (seventeen years ago) link

turds in the plaza:
http://static.flickr.com/29/43333210_3a8f2be6eb.jpg?v=0

― A Giant Mechanical Ant (The Giant Mechanical Ant), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 14:24 (seventeen years ago) link

If he was a war martyr, why on earth portray him playing football instead of something more, you know, dignified?

i believe said statue was erected by his former club and is outside their current stadium. that would be my guess as to why.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 14:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Plus that statue is based on a fairly well known picture of him rallying his teammates to capture Porkchop Hill.

― Django Blowhardt (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 14:32 (seventeen years ago) link

The flayed St. Bartholomew, carrying his skin over his shoulder

http://www.thereareplaces.com/guidebook/images/pagepix/ITmil/itmlnduoint.jpg

― ONIMO feels teh NOIZE (GerryNemo), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 14:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Somerville, NJ's 9/11 monument - not so much ugly as conceptually creepy.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/21/SomervilleNJ.jpg/300px-SomervilleNJ.jpg

See, it's ALWAYS time to remember.

A friend of mine and I came up with the idea that every hour, on the hour, 24/7 it should broadcast loudly, to the entire town: "TIME TO REMEMBER. TIME TO REMEMBER" and then the the names of all of the 9/11 victims.

― A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 14:53 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.roadtripamerica.com/roadside/Metaphor-The-Tree-of-Utah.jpg

― === temporary username === (Mark C), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 15:22 (seventeen years ago) link

tuomas: europe has art, and welfare and stuff. america has sports, money and jesus. take sides

― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 16:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Because no one in Europe likes sports. No sir.

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 16:41 (seventeen years ago) link

http://static.flickr.com/75/205101130_ab5f1c1f49_m.jpg

They made a statue of the villians from the a-ha video?

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 16:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Kenan, here's a little more information about the Forrest statue.

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 16:54 (seventeen years ago) link

That's amazing. Poetic, even. So the reason it looks like it was designed and built by a half-wit is because no decent sculptor in the world could be paid enough money to build a statue for THE GLORY OF THE FOUNDER OF THE KLU KLUX KLAN.

That really works. Let 'em keep it.

― aesthetically pleasing, in other words 'fly' (kenan), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 17:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Ok, that statue wins the ugliness contest.

― A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 17:10 (seventeen years ago) link

The flayed St. Bartholomew, carrying his skin over his shoulder

What about that is not incredibly awesome?

― aesthetically pleasing, in other words 'fly' (kenan), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 18:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Haha most of these statues are fucking awesome!

Even the Pat Tillman one would be weirdly cool if it wasn't for the fact that Pat Tillman's story makes you wish they hadn't made a statue for him at all.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 18:29 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.glasgowguide.co.uk/GG-ORG/imgs0204/Fireman%20Statue.JPG

Tribute to 9/11 firefighters. It used to scare the hell out of me at night - I have a fear of gasmasks.

― Rumpsy Pumpsy (Rumpie), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 18:30 (seventeen years ago) link

It totally looks he's going to steal ET!

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 18:33 (seventeen years ago) link

It's one of those kind of statues that if you look at it out of the side of your eye on a dark night it seems to move....

― Rumpsy Pumpsy (Rumpie), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 18:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Why does Glasgow have a tribute to 9/11 firefighters?

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 18:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Solidarity?

― Rumpsy Pumpsy (Rumpie), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 18:37 (seventeen years ago) link

God yeah, I hate that thing, it's creepy.

I like the big clock on legs at the bus station though, and the big nappy pin where Rottenrow Maternity Hospital used to be. Can't find decent pictures though.

― ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 18:38 (seventeen years ago) link

(both done by the same guy, btw)

― ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 18:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, here we are:

http://www.art-public.com/member/img/wyllg001.jpg

― ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 18:42 (seventeen years ago) link

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