But yeah, we're exactly thrilled
Missing a key word there! NOT exactly thrilled. Distinctly unthrilled.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 14 February 2022 15:29 (two years ago) link
Based on that VF breakdown, there's a lot more questions we have, honestly. If it's a compressed timeline, it's unclear whether they've essentially moved everything 'backward' to the middle of the Second Age or 'forward' to the end of it, and the descriptions make it seem more like the former? Which...okay, I can kinda buy it but I need to get a clearer idea of things.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 14 February 2022 15:40 (two years ago) link
This bit, honestly, I do like; I was wondering what her singing shot was about and this is an interesting riff:
Elrond receives a much warmer welcome from Princess Disa (Sophia Nomvete,) Durin IV's wife—and a perhaps even more beloved figure amid the plentiful song, light, and food of their underground realm. She is virtually the embodiment of that goodwill and prosperity.A shot of her singing is about much more than music, however. This is how the dwarves commune with the mountain they live beneath. Reverberations tell them where to dig, but also—importantly—where not to dig.
A shot of her singing is about much more than music, however. This is how the dwarves commune with the mountain they live beneath. Reverberations tell them where to dig, but also—importantly—where not to dig.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 14 February 2022 15:41 (two years ago) link
If there's one thing the "Hobbit" movies demonstrated it's that we definitely need more singing.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 14 February 2022 16:03 (two years ago) link
The dwarves accidentally stopped singing for a minute and stumbled upon Durin's Bane. Never again.
― jmm, Monday, 14 February 2022 16:17 (two years ago) link
Problems problems.
About half those character posters are still not formally identified yet. Couple of guesses on them:
pic.twitter.com/Wl6RqIyTEs— The Lord of the Rings on Prime (@LOTRonPrime) February 3, 2022
Numenorean due to the sun motif, as confirmed in the trailer breakdown, and I'm willing to bet this is Ar-Pharazon, probably when he was still just a rebellious warlord nephew to the previous king.
pic.twitter.com/OXQMDIBGLW— The Lord of the Rings on Prime (@LOTRonPrime) February 3, 2022
Given the first VF piece describing Isildur as a 'young sailor,' guessing this is him. Even though he's a little more than that and all.
pic.twitter.com/33y1uFkvLU— The Lord of the Rings on Prime (@LOTRonPrime) February 3, 2022
Yeah, I think this is clear enough. (That said this whole 'stranger' plot of the guy arriving in the meteor and meeting the harfoots and whatever is making us at the podcast wonder if this is supposed to be Sauron in early Annatar mode trying to figure out what he's dealing with, and said 'stranger' has been ID'd separately:
pic.twitter.com/B2qigIMaLL— The Lord of the Rings on Prime (@LOTRonPrime) February 3, 2022
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 14 February 2022 16:30 (two years ago) link
Anyway, keep in mind this is all happening as well, will likely need to do a separate thread at some point...
https://variety.com/2022/film/news/lord-of-the-rings-the-war-of-the-rohirrim-release-date-1235181646/
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 14 February 2022 22:14 (two years ago) link
Anyway, more from the showrunners
https://httwww.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2022/02/10-burning-questions-about-amazons-the-rings-of-power
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 15 February 2022 00:48 (two years ago) link
Trying an actual working link here!
https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2022/02/10-burning-questions-about-amazons-the-rings-of-power
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 15 February 2022 00:51 (two years ago) link
This whole thing keeps making LESS sense the more I learn about it
It’s worth remembering, if only for legal reasons, that this is not the exact same world. The production design, though similar, is not trying to match the Jackson films. For example, King Elendil’s legendary broken sword, Narsil, which debuted on one of Prime Video’s promotional posters, does not look identical to the one eventually reforged and used by Viggo Mortenson’s Aragorn in The Return of the King.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 15 February 2022 00:52 (two years ago) link
This is the closest thing to rights clarity I've read and even then:
So what did Amazon buy? “We have the rights solely to The Fellowship of the Ring, The Two Towers, The Return of the King, the appendices, and The Hobbit,” Payne says. “And that is it. We do not have the rights to The Silmarillion, Unfinished Tales, The History of Middle-earth, or any of those other books.” That takes a huge chunk of lore off the table and has left Tolkien fans wondering how this duo plans to tell a Second Age story without access to those materials. “There’s a version of everything we need for the Second Age in the books we have the rights to,” McKay says. “As long as we’re painting within those lines and not egregiously contradicting something we don’t have the rights to, there’s a lot of leeway and room to dramatize and tell some of the best stories that (Tolkien) ever came up with."
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 15 February 2022 00:56 (two years ago) link
There is actually some good info buried in here but the timeline issue is still clear as mud. As best as I can tell seems like the initial episode is supposed to set up everything and then we time jump maybe? I've heard weirder I guess.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 15 February 2022 01:22 (two years ago) link
I want to believe, but this sounds dumb.
― removing bookmarks never felt so good (PBKR), Tuesday, 15 February 2022 02:45 (two years ago) link
I'm sure I will resubscribe to Prime in September for this
― Ste, Tuesday, 15 February 2022 11:37 (two years ago) link
One bit of good news from that burning questions article is confirmation that Howard Shore is back!
― ArchCarrier, Tuesday, 15 February 2022 11:58 (two years ago) link
“We’ve been given something…a stewardship,” Payne says.
Yeah, and look how that turned out.
― jmm, Tuesday, 15 February 2022 14:13 (two years ago) link
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/beavisandbutthead/images/7/7a/Stewart.jpeg/revision/latest/top-crop/width/360/height/450?cb=20110910035309
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 February 2022 14:19 (two years ago) link
https://xsrock.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/winger.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 February 2022 14:20 (two years ago) link
Sweet re Shore
― covidsbundlertanze op. 6 (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 15 February 2022 14:51 (two years ago) link
Shore is good news to be...sure. I think the teaser looks kinda cheesy but I'm going to try to just suspend judgment until the thing finally airs.
― feed me with your chips (zchyrs), Tuesday, 15 February 2022 16:07 (two years ago) link
The shot of the character on the ice covered cliff looked so much like a video game to me.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 15 February 2022 16:21 (two years ago) link
Yeah the Shore confirmation, along with Howe and Kate Hawley on costumes, makes for an interesting combination of continuity in terms of general look and feel, along with the NZ landscape itself of course. (If only Andrew Lesnie were still alive.)
Trailers are often works in progress but after going on again about how much money they've put into this, releasing something that felt just like, say, the Wheel of Time trailers in terms of visual sheen was...underwhelming.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 15 February 2022 16:23 (two years ago) link
They don't make 'em like they used to
― feed me with your chips (zchyrs), Tuesday, 15 February 2022 16:29 (two years ago) link
Apparently vanity fair has now excised the reference to Shore from the article :/
― covidsbundlertanze op. 6 (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 16 February 2022 00:50 (two years ago) link
There was "confirmation" of Shore's involvement before the VF article though
@PrimeVideo confirmed Howard Shore as composer in LOTR: The Rings of Power on Instagram. #LOTRonPrime #LOTRROP pic.twitter.com/ih3ek6VctY— Tolkien News (@Tolkien_News) January 20, 2022
― groovypanda, Wednesday, 16 February 2022 07:47 (two years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9rJHb-rvYo
― sorry Mario, but our princess is in another butthole (Neanderthal), Friday, 4 March 2022 17:50 (two years ago) link
Depends on the fan perhaps. Our thoughts took up the first half of the new episode -- we have skepticism on a number of fronts
https://www.megaphonic.fm/bythebywater/36
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 4 March 2022 17:54 (two years ago) link
so, I'm going to apologize and ask that nobody watch that Youtube video I posted. a friend of mine who is a Tolkien fan shared it as a good example of people rushing to defend the show and not being versed in Tolkien lore.
....and then I found out Just Some Guy is an anti-liberal/progressive/antifa dude who believes Biden stole the White House.
next time, I am doing my homework on anybody I post. don't give this guy clicks.
― sorry Mario, but our princess is in another butthole (Neanderthal), Friday, 4 March 2022 18:39 (two years ago) link
also your podcast is great Ned!
― sorry Mario, but our princess is in another butthole (Neanderthal), Friday, 4 March 2022 18:43 (two years ago) link
Thanks kindly! And yes, we recommend our podcast over guys like that.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 4 March 2022 19:32 (two years ago) link
don’t you know sauron would be the righteous king if it wasn’t for galadriel and gandalf plotting against him in tom bombadil’s basement
― scanner darkly, Friday, 4 March 2022 20:37 (two years ago) link
This is a bit much.
https://www.theonering.net/torwp/2022/05/09/113105-the-vibes-of-power-amazon-shares-exciting-rings-of-power-insight/
Also I'm amused at the posting of this without any evident irony:
Invaluably, Amazon has managed to unite Tolkien fandom in a way only they can, with their seemingly infinite budgets.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 9 May 2022 20:37 (one year ago) link
Promo promo promo PR guff etc.
A whole new era of Middle-earth is about to unfold. Empire’s world-exclusive The Lord Of The Rings: The #RingsOfPower issue has three collectible covers – first up are the Elves, with Morfydd Clark’s Galadriel. On sale Thurs 9 JunePre-order now: https://t.co/t8dt25YLDp #LOTRROP pic.twitter.com/71rfKdfBaz— Empire Magazine (@empiremagazine) June 1, 2022
Our second world-exclusive The Lord Of The Rings: The #RingsOfPower cover is the Dwarves, featuring @OwainArthur’s Prince Durin IV and Sophia Nomvete’s Princess Disa, the rulers of Khazad-dûm. On sale Thurs 9 JunePre-order now: https://t.co/azsfkTYvW5 #LOTRROP pic.twitter.com/i6V21es7vN— Empire Magazine (@empiremagazine) June 1, 2022
Our third world-exclusive The Lord Of The Rings: The #RingsOfPower cover is the Harfoots, with Megan Richards’ Poppy Proudfellow, Markella Kavenagh’s Elanor ‘Nori’ Brandyfoot, and @LennyHenry’s Sadoc Burrows. On sale Thurs 9 JunePre-order now: https://t.co/ymzviMAgbz #LOTRROP pic.twitter.com/pPcdS3B2LX— Empire Magazine (@empiremagazine) June 1, 2022
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 6 June 2022 18:21 (one year ago) link
Etc etc etc
EXCLUSIVE IMAGE 🔥The Lord Of The Rings: The #RingsOfPower ‘doesn’t try to compete’ with Peter Jackson’s trilogy or Game Of Thrones, showrunner Patrick McKay tells Empire.Read more, and see an exclusive snow-troll image here: https://t.co/ZSSDlTnQiE #LOTRROP pic.twitter.com/32BBmvFKyM— Empire Magazine (@empiremagazine) June 5, 2022
🚨 EXCLUSIVE IMAGE ALERT 🚨Lenny Henry plays 'Harfoot' Sadoc Burrows in The Lord Of The Rings: The #RingsOfPower: 'We're the traditional Tolkien little guy,' he tells Empire. #LOTRROP Read more: https://t.co/196ws3y4ms pic.twitter.com/xZDJIX5q42— Empire Magazine (@empiremagazine) June 6, 2022
EXCLUSIVE IMAGE 🔥The Lord Of The Rings: The #RingsOfPower’s five seasons are fully planned out: ‘We know what our final shot will be,' showrunner JD Payne tells Empire. #LOTRROPRead more: https://t.co/0wJf3FNnrD pic.twitter.com/pCr011rpbi— Empire Magazine (@empiremagazine) June 6, 2022
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 6 June 2022 18:22 (one year ago) link
Plus a short thing leading into whatever the big promo dump later in the week will be:
https://www.empireonline.com/tv/news/lord-of-the-rings-power-five-seasons-fully-planned-out-exclusive/
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 6 June 2022 18:27 (one year ago) link
This...is not what I figured Celebrimbor would look like.
EXCLUSIVE IMAGE 🚨Meet The Lord Of The Rings: The #RingsOfPower's pivotal elf Celebrimbor, played by Charles Edwards. #LOTRROP Read more: https://t.co/0xk05ZlPO1 pic.twitter.com/6iPFLbb3j7— Empire Magazine (@empiremagazine) June 7, 2022
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 7 June 2022 18:08 (one year ago) link
this nonsense is going to RULE
― mark s, Tuesday, 7 June 2022 18:25 (one year ago) link
Looks more like Celebrimbore.
― sleep, that's where I'm the cousin of death (PBKR), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 19:10 (one year ago) link
thinkin baout things
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 7 June 2022 19:24 (one year ago) link
thinkin baout rings
― mark s, Tuesday, 7 June 2022 19:29 (one year ago) link
Two months away from...whatever it'll be. Enjoy.
Watch the full sneak peek exclusively for Prime Members on https://t.co/Sw8xN6skP7. #TheRingsOfPower pic.twitter.com/fGkEHtngz3— The Lord of the Rings on Prime (@LOTRonPrime) July 6, 2022
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 6 July 2022 17:16 (one year ago) link
I heard a lot of the budget went to hiring actual wizards and dragons rather than wasting money on computers.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 6 July 2022 17:32 (one year ago) link
It was either that or just buying New Zealand.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 6 July 2022 17:57 (one year ago) link
visuals look way better here than they did on that trailer
― in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 6 July 2022 18:21 (one year ago) link
It's just gonna be a Tekken style fighting game but a TV show
― Doop Snogg (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 6 July 2022 22:47 (one year ago) link
Looks like "Lord of the Elden Ring."
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 6 July 2022 22:51 (one year ago) link
Elden Ring knew what to rip off for a reason.
It does generally work for me better as a trailer, but will want to see what next week exactly brings us.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 6 July 2022 23:28 (one year ago) link
HMMMM.
https://ew.com/tv/lord-of-the-rings-the-rings-of-power-numenor-first-look/
My cohosts and I are...pondering. Full trailer tomorrow.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 14 July 2022 04:28 (one year ago) link
And here it ishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewgCqJDI_Nk
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 14 July 2022 13:53 (one year ago) link
cautiously optimistic. tho if the hobbit films didn’t ruin my enjoyment of this whole thing, idk if anything will
― in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Thursday, 14 July 2022 13:57 (one year ago) link