RIP Kanye West

I am joining the chorus— I love Reasonable Doubt and a smattering of tracks here and there, but if we're talking NYC rappers from that period, I will always, always stan for Nas over Jay, any day of the week.

As for Kanye, I just don't pay attention to anything he does, tho I still think the picture of the Clipse with Kenny G backstage at one of his concerts is among the funniest images of musicians ever.

It was a musical “E”- Clipse!! Honored to share the stage with these talented guys! #SundayService pic.twitter.com/hbiH0ZcTKR

— Kenny G (@kennyg) October 28, 2019

There have been a lot of individual Jay Z tracks I've enjoyed, some all on the same album, but no albums of his I take out on any sort of regular basis. That includes Reasonable Doubt, that includes The Blueprint, just not really my thing. I'd have to look at a calendar or something, but I don't think the rap I was listening to at the time included any of the heavy hitters, as far as I can remember. Though I do remember really enjoying Unplugged, which was fun.

The first 'just buy the greatest hits' rapper.

S. Carter, ghostwriter
for the right price I even make your ilm posts tighter

The catalogue of idiocy goes way, way back.

"I'm like a fly Malcolm X / Buy any jeans necessary"

Nas' albums between 1996-2002 are far worse than Jay-z's, but the latter's don't exist. In the download era my students didn't think he existed before The Blueprint.

Nas' albums between 1996-2002 are far worse than Jay-z's, but the latter's don't exist. In the download era my students didn't think he existed before The Blueprint.

lol

Is Reasonable Doubt only on Tidal or something?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3grvCbdONk

sorry - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLfia-qfabl5wfDDickRmdmTaSukaK8Y_r

My son is not a fan of most of the rap we're talking about. It bores him, even my beloved "Warning". But to be honest, a lof of old rap doesn't hold up for me - if I was gonna listem to hip-hop from 1996-2009 or whatever I'd probably want a long playlist, not albums. This genre evolves so fast. (There are exceptions that do hold up, of course.)

Kanye's "You always askin' for Buddha, you a Budapest" on the Playboi Carti album was an all time groaner

oh, I should say that Jay Z's Timbaland collabs are all pretty killer.

Yeezus was the last Kanye album I thought had some great stuff on it, and also includes one of my favorite quatrains in rap history.

Which quatrain, table?

this is everything I could ever want from hip hop

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1swlUtEkXZ0

But I gotta feed Tianna, man
So I move keys, you can call me the Piano Man
Rain, sleet, hail, snow, man
Slang dope, E, hydro, man

keep goin

the roc/state p era I would run through a brick wall for

So he is just publicly harassing his ex wife at this point

all the rap dilettantes coming out against jay, i guess that’s what happens when you have a 25 year career and all the best music is in the first third

he has an Aerosmith problem where he got to be much bigger in pop culture later so some people are talking about Rocks and Toys in the Attic and some people are talking about Pump and Get a Grip

So in this analogy, Kanye West is Alicia Silverstone?

100% of Tru heads love Jay Z, it's written in the oracle

we still hustle till the sun come up

when you have a 25 year career and all the best music is in the first third

jay-z is the simpsons

I haven't been paying close attention to the drama around his Netflix doc, but I just saw the headline for this NY Times article and holy shit, they've been working on this for 20 years? That's ridiculous, imagine if someone was doing a doc on Prince in 1977 or the Beatles in 1961...

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/11/arts/music/kanye-west-documentary-jeen-yuhs.html

right? against all better judgement, i'm really looking forward to the it. i'm hoping for the documentary version of "Family Business" and "Last Call"

...looking forward to *it*, even

This isn't *quite* the same, but it could be like watching a film of a favorite actor before they went off the deep end, like "remember when they were a young and charming idealist hoping to make it rather than the spoiled asshole they've become now?" Bittersweet, but regardless, I'm sure the first installment will be good, where Kanye is literally knocking on doors and shopping his demos to people who just smile politely and send him on his way. It's the type of thing every artist has talked about in their bio or doc, but it's crazy when you can actually SEE it.

Looked it up, guess it isn't a quatrain (I hear it as ABCA, it's just AA). It's the one you would expect about Deepak Chopra and 2Pac, I remember listening to the album for the first time on my blastbox riding to a friend's party and I nearly rode off the road and got into an accident when I heard that line.

Kanye is not a real person pic.twitter.com/Fo0sKYwXWP

— Piñata Farms 🪅 (@pinatafarms) February 14, 2022

this dude gonna end up in jail

yeah it's really fucked up how ppl are just laughing this off, it's escalating stalker behavior

My first reaction was laughter due to the absurdity of it all, then one second later I realised these are real people.
Stalking, harassment, really destructive, not good

this is the dumbest high school shit

Mentally ill x power x money x more power x more money x religious "enlightenment"

Literal worst combination.

He's been enabled years past the point of return and it's only going to get worse.

That said, "No More Parties in LA" never fails to affect me. It still sounds just as dope as it did 5-6 years ago.

This is all really disturbing.

this is the dumbest high school shit

It is dumb, but I feel like "dumb high school shit" undersells how dangerous his behavior is becoming. This is textbook abuser behavior.

textbook abuser behavior is absolutely the way lots of high school kids act! they're equally poisonous sometimes.

i find that high school never ended in many ways.

xp - except your average high schooler doesn't have an audience of 13.6 million followers with a not insignificant percentage of that cheering his misogyny and threats of violence on.

https://pitchfork.com/news/kanye-west-says-new-album-donda-2-wont-stream-will-only-be-available-on-his-stem-player/

the stem player is $200 so lol

it'll be available on Soulseek before you even plug the thing in

sure Kanye it'll be out 5 days from now give me a fucking break

Well, at least I’m surprised and somehow proud he didn’t cash in on the NFT scams. I was 100% expecting him to do it.

CUSTOMIZE ANY SONG
SHIPS WITH DONDA
SPLIT ANY SONG INTO STEMS

FEATURES
CONTROL VOCALS, DRUMS, BASS, AND SAMPLES
ISOLATE PARTS
ADD EFFECTS
4 CHANNEL LOSSLESS AUDIO MIXING
REAL TIME LOOP AND SPEED CONTROL
TACTILE EFFECTS
SAVE, PLAYBACK, AND DOWNLOAD MIXES
UPDATE CONTENT AND SOFTWARE

as a concept, i like this a lot. fuck no i'm not buying one.

hes finally just throwing up his hands and going "here, you guys finish this"