For me the only thing that quite compares is the original Alice Cooper band. Not sure the comparison quite does justice to either group, but there is some kind of sui generis weirdness to both that can get overlooked and is hard to find elsewhere.
― Ferryboat Bill Jr. (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 12 February 2022 17:21 (two years ago) link
Afghan Whigs and R.E.M. two bands where the BÖC influence is noticeable, as hs been noted before, although obvioiusly those bands also have other things in their bloodline.
― Ferryboat Bill Jr. (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 12 February 2022 17:23 (two years ago) link
Afghan Whigs sub out HP Lovecraft for Elmore Leonard maybe.
― removing bookmarks never felt so good (PBKR), Saturday, 12 February 2022 17:29 (two years ago) link
To my knowledge, Husker Du are the only other band to list "stun guitar" in their album credits, so there's that and them.
― henry s, Saturday, 12 February 2022 18:28 (two years ago) link
Plus, umlauts appear.
― henry s, Saturday, 12 February 2022 18:29 (two years ago) link
ha I never thought of that but of course, esp since the board game used lines over the u's not umlautshttps://images.app.goo.gl/kyYn93fXzzEh7zB17
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 12 February 2022 18:40 (two years ago) link
my half-serious monkees comparison upthread is worth considering for half a second. hired hands grow wings to become some strange kind of meta-version of the original concept. of course they were too early to have been influenced by boc, and boc were not necessarily influenced by them.
― Thus Sang Freud, Saturday, 12 February 2022 18:42 (two years ago) link
So you are comparing Sandy Pearlman to Raybert/Kirshner?
― Ferryboat Bill Jr. (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 12 February 2022 19:30 (two years ago) link
heh i think pearlman's concept was a little more out-there. maybe it gave them more room to grow. maybe his whole master plan was to have them grow into and inhabit the concept? wait, i'm getting the idea for an album here...
― Thus Sang Freud, Saturday, 12 February 2022 19:36 (two years ago) link
Has anyone in the band, or the other "outside" lyricists, ever talked about whether Pearlman imposed lyrical guidelines or limits to preserve the BOC conceptual brand? Were certain topics or approaches encouraged or discouraged?
― Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 12 February 2022 22:27 (two years ago) link
these sort of touche on it a little bit. i think pearlman started branching out and getting involved with other bands, and losing his influence over boc. especially when reaper came along. albert seemed the one most influenced by him.
https://drankf.medium.com/imaginos-sandy-pearlman-blue-oyster-cult-and-me-b90d41ee7119
https://www.thewire.co.uk/in-writing/interviews/albert-bouchard-on-blue-oyster-cult-sandy-pearlman-and-re-imaginos
― Thus Sang Freud, Sunday, 13 February 2022 00:27 (two years ago) link
touch
Voivod have a touch of the flavor IMO
― covidsbundlertanze op. 6 (Jon not Jon), Sunday, 13 February 2022 01:11 (two years ago) link
I cannot imagine Richard Meltzer taking direction from anyone
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 13 February 2022 01:43 (two years ago) link
meltzer: By the time they were Blue Oyster Cult, they had very little use for me. I wasn't living with them anymore and they smelled big bucks. While I still had relationships with certain of them from time to time, it became an effort to sell them a lyric, where once upon a time they were begging for stuff. They did an album for Elektra that was never released, as Stalk-Forrest, that I had eight songs on. They were the best things I ever did for them, or for anybody. But I never had more than two songs on a single Cult album. On their biggest seller, Agents of Fortune, I had nothing. I think part of the reason I was banished from that one is I behaved rudely at the wedding of the guitarist (Buck Dharma). I felt up his mother when I was dancing with her.
https://www.furious.com/perfect/meltzer2.html
― Thus Sang Freud, Sunday, 13 February 2022 01:56 (two years ago) link
omg
― removing bookmarks never felt so good (PBKR), Sunday, 13 February 2022 02:12 (two years ago) link
I haven’t listened to stalk forrest in quite a few years I just realized
― covidsbundlertanze op. 6 (Jon not Jon), Sunday, 13 February 2022 04:53 (two years ago) link
other memories:
listening to "don't fear the reaper" on the hi-fi in bobby's living room with bobby's parents and eric. bobby's parents were not from the rock'n'roll generation; eric must be a fair number of years younger than his sister. bobby's father: "see, eric, this is what i've been trying to tell you all along. all you have to do is go 'la la la' and people will start buying your records."
eric telling us that buck came to the band with a demo, and all they could hear when he played it was cash registers ringing. i *think* the song he was talking about was 'godzilla.' memory fails.
― Thus Sang Freud, Sunday, 13 February 2022 11:51 (two years ago) link
eric's inscription on the cover of the tin holding the piece of cake bobby brought back to me from eric's wedding: my heart is blackand my lips are coldeat this cakehot or cold<<boc symbol>>
― Thus Sang Freud, Sunday, 13 February 2022 12:44 (two years ago) link
That's awesome, I wonder if that was a go-to inscription technique of his, like in a birthday card perhaps:
my heart is blackand my lips are coldI am still young'tis you who are old
― henry s, Sunday, 13 February 2022 15:09 (two years ago) link
Maybe that should be posted on the Ideas for Valentine’s Day thread
― Ferryboat Bill Jr. (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 13 February 2022 15:41 (two years ago) link
my heart is blackand my lips are coldroses are redor so I am told
Please be my Valentine!EB
<<boc symbol>>
― henry s, Sunday, 13 February 2022 16:56 (two years ago) link
Vera Gemini hitting all the spots this afternoon.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 7 May 2022 22:21 (one year ago) link
One of the all-tyme greatest revives, and mention of Brain Surgeons NYC '06 in Brooklyn backyard reminds me that they made my Nashville Scene ballot's Country Singles category for that year's releases:
Brain Surgeons NYC sometimes do the urban country boogie, like theyworked extended temp in the Dallas Schoolbook Suppository, lookin' atthe world through a computer screen, like the rest of us, and, if RossThe Boss's leads didn't seem quite so trite quite so often, and if AlBouchard gave up the mic more often to Deborah Frost, then Denial OfDeath might well have made my Rock Top Ten. But even so, on"Lonestar," you get that Metal Brenda Lee is comin' on strong, andLemmy Lee too, pert' near (still meaning her, def not Al). But Al's theYankee boy proudly reporting for duty in "1864," and no less countryfor that.
― dow, Tuesday, 10 May 2022 01:31 (one year ago) link
Oh yeah, and their "Plague of Lies" made my Idolator ballot for 2006 releases!
― dow, Tuesday, 10 May 2022 01:34 (one year ago) link
Prairie Oyster Cult
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 10 May 2022 01:59 (one year ago) link
In the new episode of the Rock's Backpages podcast we welcome heavy metal expert Deborah Frost, Zooming in from her native New York City, and invite her to talk about her career as a writer and musician.Deborah reminisces about Flaming Youth, the all-girl "female Dolls" in which she drummed in the early '70s, and then explains how she came to write her first pieces for Circus in 1977. She talks about her love of hard rock and heavy metal, and about contributing to Rolling Stone and the Village Voice — including her acclaimed 1985 Voice piece "White Noise: How Heavy Metal Rules", with its unflattering descriptions of the drug-and-groupie-addled Mötley Crüe.
Deborah reminisces about Flaming Youth, the all-girl "female Dolls" in which she drummed in the early '70s, and then explains how she came to write her first pieces for Circus in 1977. She talks about her love of hard rock and heavy metal, and about contributing to Rolling Stone and the Village Voice — including her acclaimed 1985 Voice piece "White Noise: How Heavy Metal Rules", with its unflattering descriptions of the drug-and-groupie-addled Mötley Crüe.
― dow, Tuesday, 14 June 2022 00:35 (one year ago) link
interview with joe bouchard on todd-o-phonic todd's show:
https://www.wfmu.org/playlists/shows/116574
― Thus Sang Freud, Tuesday, 14 June 2022 12:30 (one year ago) link
Three shows in nyc in September with one of the first three albums played each night. Albert joining in.
― covidsbundlertanze op. 6 (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 14 June 2022 20:10 (one year ago) link
yup, thanks -- that was mentioned during the interview (joe b hasn't been asked to participate as of yet). if i were still seeing shows it would be on my list for sure. still covid-shy.
― Thus Sang Freud, Tuesday, 14 June 2022 22:30 (one year ago) link
Same here. Still tempting to get tickets for secret treaties night and hope the numbers are comfortable for me by then.
― covidsbundlertanze op. 6 (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 15 June 2022 03:24 (one year ago) link
and of course, in addition to covid there's the probability of getting sucked into a transdimensional vortex
― The 25 Best Songs Ever Ranked In Order (Deflatormouse), Wednesday, 15 June 2022 15:02 (one year ago) link
True… on the other hand, if that happens you get a Q&A with Sandy Pearlman
― covidsbundlertanze op. 6 (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 15 June 2022 15:38 (one year ago) link
braving it thurs & fri, at $80 a ticket incl. service fees i will prob be disappointed if something like that doesn't happen
― The 25 Best Songs Ever Ranked In Order (Deflatormouse), Wednesday, 15 June 2022 16:41 (one year ago) link
Is this Sony Hall? I've been there once for Parliament and it was a surprisingly casual set-up, albeit with posh surroundings. Like the band members just mingled with the crowd between their set and the opening act, and there was no barrier between stage and floor so a LOT of people easily got on to the stage when they wanted people to dance during the climax.
― birdistheword, Wednesday, 15 June 2022 16:45 (one year ago) link
I need a really good soundboard recording from 1974ish where they do mostly Secret Treaties material, closest I've found is a kind of thin audience taped show from Baton Rouge
― made entirely of styrofoam (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 14:18 (one year ago) link
Yeah there’s not much I just end up going back to OYFOOYK
― covidsbundlertanze op. 6 (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 22:10 (one year ago) link
http://soundaboard.blogspot.com/2010/02/blue-oyster-cult-live-in-west-1975.html?m=1
https://www.discjapan.com/product/blue-oyster-cult-soundboard-collection-3pro-cdr-uxbridge-305/
― The 25 Best Songs Ever Ranked In Order (Deflatormouse), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 22:21 (one year ago) link
In the west is great I guess I didn’t mention it bc is it 75 but I guess that counts as 74ish lol
― covidsbundlertanze op. 6 (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 22:24 (one year ago) link
:D
― The 25 Best Songs Ever Ranked In Order (Deflatormouse), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 22:25 (one year ago) link
Has anyone seen the doc about the lead singer who became a Buddhist monk known as The King of Chanting or whatever it was?
― Build My Gallows Hi Hi Hi (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 22:51 (one year ago) link
One Track Heart: The Story of Krishna Das. About a guy named Jeffrey Kagel.
― Build My Gallows Hi Hi Hi (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 30 June 2022 10:02 (one year ago) link
But his involvement with the band was very early on: https://archive.nytimes.com/cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/12/ex-rocker-finds-a-different-path-to-fame-chanting-all-the-way/
― Build My Gallows Hi Hi Hi (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 30 June 2022 10:18 (one year ago) link
who knew?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baD0sBuJVu4
― Thus Sang Freud, Monday, 1 August 2022 15:47 (one year ago) link
Lenny Kaye on Sandy Pearlman, pretty cool & some stuff I didn't know: https://www.pattismith.net/souvenance.html
― dow, Monday, 1 August 2022 17:05 (one year ago) link
Was playing video games with my 10 year-old tonight and he asked me to put on a record while we played. “Something rock,” was his request. Cultosaurus Erectus was on the nearby rack, so on it went.
“Black Blade” starts to play and about two minutes in he goes, “yessssss this is what I needed to hear tonight”.
Folks, gonna consider that a parenting win for the month.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 12 August 2022 03:26 (one year ago) link
\m/
― mookieproof, Friday, 12 August 2022 03:52 (one year ago) link
so Buck released a multi-CD home archives thing I'd never heard about, here's the demo for "I Love The Night", really interesting as 1) there's more/different lyrics, bit longer and 2) WOW Buck's demos are really polished and fully formed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2334KJL0UgM
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 23 November 2022 16:31 (one year ago) link
Apart from "(Don't Fear) the Reaper," an aggressively middling band with fun ideas.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 23 November 2022 17:45 (one year ago) link
so wrong!!!!!!
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 23 November 2022 18:03 (one year ago) link