ILM’s Top 77 Albums of 2021

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god is not a terrorist was fantastic, need to recheck last years

nxd, Friday, 11 February 2022 20:35 (two years ago) link

Ustad Saami rules, though I liked this year's album a little less than prior ones. I dislike the idea of "countering" Aftab with Saami for a few reasons but don't feel much like arguing about it.

thank you to the poll runners!

rob, Friday, 11 February 2022 20:57 (two years ago) link

Thank you all so much for this!

Also I know it was said already but holy shit @ 85 Victory Over The Sun - Nowherer
Had it at 22 on my list.

gman59, Friday, 11 February 2022 21:04 (two years ago) link

can someone say how arooj aftab gained the attention she's obviously had this year? what's the story there?

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Friday, 11 February 2022 21:07 (two years ago) link

thank you forks and seandalai and moka! It's been fun two weeks

braised cod, Friday, 11 February 2022 21:10 (two years ago) link

emily, table, and imago if he behaves:

rolling careerist hacks, awkward pandering, transparently manipulative thread 2022

Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 11 February 2022 21:13 (two years ago) link

xxp I remember she was on a few "Best of the Year So Far" lists that I saw at the midpoint (Guardian, NPR) and Pitchfork gave it a BNM when it came out.

Indexed, Friday, 11 February 2022 21:31 (two years ago) link

ah okay. cool that she was featured in those, she's not exactly on a massive label

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Friday, 11 February 2022 21:36 (two years ago) link

Thanks so much Moka, forks and seandadata. Superb poll running as ever.

Been following on my Phone all week, but now on laptop so finally enjoying the eye candy that is the images. Really good presentation of the cover art, and the size and resolution is allowing me in some cases to see details I'd never spotted before.

As to the results: loads of records I've never heard of, which is always the case but rarely so many or so high. Lots to check out.

Jeff W, Friday, 11 February 2022 21:42 (two years ago) link

can someone say how arooj aftab gained the attention she's obviously had this year? what's the story there?

― o shit the sheriff (NickB), Friday, February 11, 2022 4:07 PM (forty-seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

the answer is usually "she hired a publicist"

roflrofl fight (voodoo chili), Friday, 11 February 2022 21:55 (two years ago) link

in this case, looks like she shares a publicist with flying lotus, four tet, and many other critical darlings

roflrofl fight (voodoo chili), Friday, 11 February 2022 21:56 (two years ago) link

i voted for her at #2, no need to be cynical, i'm glad that she hired someone who got her great music out there.

roflrofl fight (voodoo chili), Friday, 11 February 2022 21:57 (two years ago) link

Thanks pollrunners! I went unweighted because I couldn't manage anything else but on reflection, I think I'd have a Cleo Sol/Cassandra Jenkins/Anne Bourne/Deafheaven/Old Saw 1-2-3-4-5.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Friday, 11 February 2022 22:17 (two years ago) link

I only caught up with Arooj Aftab this year. I was listening to it while pruning the plum trees and our two chickens clearly enjoyed a couple of the tracks, coming right over to the speaker and listening quietly while they were playing. I've never seen them do that with anything else.

aphoristical, Friday, 11 February 2022 22:26 (two years ago) link

Also btw the Maxine Funke LP was one of my biggest discoveries from the noms, even though it's not in the top 100. Very intimate record that's gotten a lot of play around the house. Ambient folk??

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 11 February 2022 22:27 (two years ago) link

Re Aftab, I think that part of my response is that I have a dear friend who is an Indian-American experimental musician who I think does similar things to Aftab, but much better. Yet this friend's work isn't as hyped, so y'know.

we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Friday, 11 February 2022 22:33 (two years ago) link

people skeptical of aftab's 2021 album might do well to check out her 2018 debut, which is much more ambient and abstract, less song oriented.

roflrofl fight (voodoo chili), Friday, 11 February 2022 22:37 (two years ago) link

I don't know how it made its way to me (probably ILM), but Vulture Prince affected me on some profound level and I was obsessed with it for weeks after hearing it. Probably would have been my #1 if I had voted. Glad it did so well. I get how maybe it wouldn't leave an impression or isn't someone's thing, but I can't imagine wanting to talk music with some joyless fuck who can't hear anything beyond what moves she may have made to promote/commercialize her sound (sell out?) or whatever. (I'm not at all referring to you, voodoo chili).

beard papa, Friday, 11 February 2022 22:49 (two years ago) link

tv poll likely gonna take another week or so for me to organize, but one more still on the way

i cannot help if you made yourself not funny (forksclovetofu), Friday, 11 February 2022 22:55 (two years ago) link

full results coming in ~30 minutes

Vangelis fleadh (seandalai), Friday, 11 February 2022 23:03 (two years ago) link

Re Aftab, I think that part of my response is that I have a dear friend who is an Indian-American experimental musician who I think does similar things to Aftab, but much better. Yet this friend's work isn't as hyped, so y'know.

― we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Friday, February 11, 2022 5:33 PM (one hour ago)

1) Aftab is from Pakistan not India

2) I don't know what you think you're getting at here, but Aftab and your friend sharing a racial identity / geographical roots isn't that compelling of a point of similarity—why does Aftab's success relate to your friend's career at all? If you're trying to imply the racist experimental music industry (?) only allows one South Asian woman to be successful at a time, you're not being very clear

rob, Saturday, 12 February 2022 00:02 (two years ago) link

how's this friend with a tuba?

maf you one two (maffew12), Saturday, 12 February 2022 00:06 (two years ago) link

This Low album

first of all, after listening on headphones, I just can't really HEAR it when I listen on speakers, it sounds thin, it kind of needs to inhabit your skull to work

Also, "Disappearing," jesus, this is a blast of pure cold darkness that I am not sure I wanted or can fully handle, it is their "Snow Is Falling In Manhattan" I think

Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 12 February 2022 00:06 (two years ago) link

I'm probably overreacting and will regret that post, but I'm seriously disappointed that two posters I like a lot thought the best way to react to show their disapproval of the Aftab placement was to bring up some other South Asian musician

rob, Saturday, 12 February 2022 00:08 (two years ago) link

no i hear ya. god forbid table tell us who they're talking about. our tiny minds might not be ready

maf you one two (maffew12), Saturday, 12 February 2022 00:13 (two years ago) link

tbf a fairly common way of reacting to a lot of albums that placed is along the lines of 'ha this vaunted thing is crap you morons, why doesn't anyone pay attention to this this other band that does a similar thing BUT BETTER', and sometimes they're only very superficially similar, but it's too good an opportunity not to scold you all and demonstrate superior knowledge (speaking as someone who is guilty of doing this myself)

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Saturday, 12 February 2022 00:18 (two years ago) link

thanks to the pollrunners for their great work as always

very agreeable top 10 overall. sort of baffled by the sudden aftab backlash - yes, obviously she has a good publicist and is relatively accessible compared to a lot of other artists doing similar things. that's how the industry is. if you want people to actually listen to the much lower-profile similar artists that you prefer, maybe just make a case for those artists on their on terms idk

ufo, Saturday, 12 February 2022 00:19 (two years ago) link

2021 Albums Poll: Thread of States and Balloons

Vangelis fleadh (seandalai), Saturday, 12 February 2022 00:47 (two years ago) link

Always love to follow the rollout, though I usually can't comment in real time.

Aftab and Floating/Pharoah are both albums I fully expected to love, and then I didn't, even after multiple attempts. It happens. Nothing against those who do like them!

Vangelis fleadh (seandalai), Saturday, 12 February 2022 00:51 (two years ago) link

didn't vote, but enjoyed following this. thanks moka, forks, seandalai

Dan S, Saturday, 12 February 2022 00:55 (two years ago) link

thanks to the pollrunners for their great work as always

very agreeable top 10 overall. sort of baffled by the sudden aftab backlash - yes, obviously she has a good publicist and is relatively accessible compared to a lot of other artists doing similar things. that's how the industry is. if you want people to actually listen to the much lower-profile similar artists that you prefer, maybe just make a case for those artists on their on terms idk


well said

beard papa, Saturday, 12 February 2022 01:02 (two years ago) link

Did I say that I thought Aftab was from India? No. It wasn't even implied.

My post was pretty clear-- I think my friend does similar things to Aftab, and I don't think she gets enough props, so it sort of biases me against Aftab.

There is obviously racial bias and tokenism in the music industry, even the experimental or more underground industry, and that's all I'll say about that.

In the meantime, you can take your accusatory tone and shove it.

we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Saturday, 12 February 2022 01:03 (two years ago) link

Fwiw, my friend is both friends with Aftab and also is admittedly frustrated that the music industry seems to have space for only one woman from that regional diaspora per year.

we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Saturday, 12 February 2022 01:06 (two years ago) link

i'm sure aftab feels the same way!

i cannot help if you made yourself not funny (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 12 February 2022 05:59 (two years ago) link

I missed a few days!

Certainly didn't anticipate
Nala Sinephro being the most popular thing on my ballot.

Thanks again forksclovetofu, Moka and seandalai for all your work!

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Saturday, 12 February 2022 08:03 (two years ago) link

cool glad to hear the poll winner is totally bullshit compared to other more obscure artists or ppl's friends, excellent. good reminder why I never vote

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 12 February 2022 08:08 (two years ago) link

that wasn't what i was saying - it was much more an 'okay, now try this if you want to hear something out of a parallel tradition that does impressive things with microtones' - there was no hint of calling the Arooj bullshit, it is very much a success on its own terms. I'll concede the timing may have been slightly off but my post really was a throwaway, for the eyes of the curious only

imago, Saturday, 12 February 2022 08:24 (two years ago) link

What's the last ILX poll winner to get > 1000 points?

The last three (and probably beyond, I can't be bothered to check) all got >1000: Jessie Ware, Weyes Blood and Low themselves!

tangenttangent, Saturday, 12 February 2022 09:44 (two years ago) link

yeah this year is just unusually low due to the unusually low number of voters, not unusually high

ufo, Saturday, 12 February 2022 09:48 (two years ago) link

but it's usually Low that wins whether user numbers are low or high

Nabozo, Saturday, 12 February 2022 11:15 (two years ago) link

Every album poll winner since 2010 (when records begin) has scored >1000 points. Black Messiah and To Pimp a Butterfly got over 2000.

Tracks poll alway has less consensus, there hasn't been a >1000-vote winner since 2016. All-time highest score was Inspector Norse with 1676.

Vangelis fleadh (seandalai), Saturday, 12 February 2022 13:40 (two years ago) link

Also btw the Maxine Funke LP was one of my biggest discoveries from the noms, even though it's not in the top 100. Very intimate record that's gotten a lot of play around the house. Ambient folk??

― change display name (Jordan), Friday, February 11, 2022 5:27 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Yes that album is beautiful!

Evan, Saturday, 12 February 2022 15:47 (two years ago) link

Checked out Ustad Saami. He's good, always appreciate a recommendation, but I def prefer Aftab (I had listened to her album when it was released but forgot about it til this poll).

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Saturday, 12 February 2022 16:48 (two years ago) link

Finally listened to the whole Low album and I liked it quite a bit in the end. Ironically, it's probably what I would have wanted from them 20 years ago.

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Sunday, 13 February 2022 02:50 (two years ago) link

the title track on the Mdou Moctar album is an utter ripper

it's going to take me a while to sort out what stuff from this year's poll will stick with me and what won't, but throwing the whole list on endless shuffle is a great way to vibe through the day, very little I'm finding outright skip worthy

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Sunday, 13 February 2022 19:08 (two years ago) link

the chvrches record was instrumental in me realizing i'm a woman, so, like how the deafheaven record is impossible to extract from how depressed i was last august, it is impossible for me to separate screen violence from that realization. also horror movie tropes are very smartly employed as metaphors throughout the record, there was no way i wasn't going to like a record that did that. regardless: synth-pop revival isn't free jazz or harsh noise i guess but i always thought chvrches provided a very original vision of it, always a little faster and crisper than it should be, like it was being blinked out by an overclocked processor, and the melodies never recalled anything of '80s vintage for me, they were definitely written by someone who fucking loves jimmy eat world and other early '00s emo. surprisingly they are the only band i can think of who spliced these two things together. and instead of any contemporaneous synth-pop act they might be associated with, they remind me most of garbage, who also made pop-rock that sounded as if it had been fed through something and come out almost unrecognizable and partially-to-totally danceable on the other end

so if screen violence is their best album, which i think it is, it's because they further darkened and fragmented their sound by incorporating goth pop guitars, breakbeats, and a total confidence in these choices that contrasts with the pools of anxiety the lyrics keep melting into, that it provides indelible hooks to latch onto even as it clings to the cliff's-edge of sanity, even as it is surrounded by threats and double-standards that do not abate but reinforce themselves and gradually suffocate the atmosphere, like something determined to remain itself no matter what it has to survive

it's also totally hypocritical to love the sayonara wild hearts soundtrack and not give chvrches the time of day, imago

― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Friday, 11 February 2022 19:19 (two days ago) bookmarkflaglink

This is a beautiful post

Tim F, Sunday, 13 February 2022 23:25 (two years ago) link

^^yes it is, and extremely accurate re: 00s emo lineage, which I'd never picked up on before.

I was busy last week so just going through everything now, so far really enjoying the rochelle jordan record that i missed completely last year and is right up my street

Roz, Monday, 14 February 2022 01:44 (two years ago) link

probably the song that makes chvrches' emo influence the most obvious is "bury it", it's always been a distinct part of their sound and set them apart from mere 80s pastiche.

chvrches were also my number one this year, such an unexpected triumph of an album. it's a synthpop/dance-rock classic that's completely up there with say, technique or violator. the first two chvrches albums were decent but pretty far from masterpieces and the third was pretty mediocre, so i really never expected something like this from them.

ufo, Monday, 14 February 2022 02:00 (two years ago) link

same - i liked a bunch of their songs before but was never blown away by their records. this album hit me like a ton of bricks. i didn't submit a weighted ballot but it would've been top 5 for me.

Roz, Monday, 14 February 2022 02:16 (two years ago) link

Great post Brad. I always thought the emo influence was obvious, considering two members of the band were involved in Aereogramme, a (very underrated) 00's post-hardcore band before they formed Chvrches. But yeah it's more noticeable on Screen Violence, and I agree it's their best album (also my #1 vote)

braised cod, Monday, 14 February 2022 11:16 (two years ago) link


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